posted on July 30, 2005 07:24:46 PM
I am soooooooooo ticked off. eBay cancelled my auction for a vintage 1930's to 1940's cheetah real fur cape. I was told the cape was rare and yesterday it was up to $255.00.
I mean, the cape is vintage not like it's new or anything so I just don't understand why they do that with some of these vintage furs.
This happened to me about 3 years ago when I had a vintage fur cape on that was called "SEAL" but wasn't actually from a seal!
Oh well, I'll sell it at the antique mall where I have space but just needed to vent!
posted on July 30, 2005 08:01:06 PM new
You mean other than that whole thing about Cheetahs being endagered species and that it specifically includes Cheetah in their restricted items list?
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posted on July 30, 2005 08:14:10 PM new
If you want to see Ebay get really worked up, try listing something made of ivory. There are ways it can be done in a few instances, but you better know what you're doing or that auction will be nuked within the first hour.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on July 30, 2005 08:45:34 PM new
Cheetah is an endangered species. Therefore, it is illegal to sell it. If you are caught knowingly selling them in a transaction that crosses state lines, you could be punished with FIVE YEARS IN PRISON and a $250,000 FINE. If you are a business or organization, the maximum fine doubles. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, if you can prove that your fur was purchased before the law went into effect in 1970, it is legal to sell it within your own state, but it cannot cross state lines. That means, if you have held onto the original receipt from pre-1970, you could probably sell it to someone within your own state. But, if you're selling it at a flea market in Manhattan, for example, and the purchaser travels from New Jersey or Connecticut to buy it, you're breaking the law. If you're selling it online to someone in another state, you're breaking the law.
IOW, if you have a purchase receipt that shows the fur was purchased prior to 1970, you can probably safely sell it. If not, donate it somewhere. Five years in prison is a long time for a few bucks profit.
posted on July 30, 2005 10:37:03 PM new
Relist it. Only this time, call it a New Zealand spotted panther fur. I guarantee, that critter isn't on any endangered list.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
[ edited by sparkz on Jul 30, 2005 10:49 PM ]
That's a good idea. A couple of years ago, a friend gave me a purse she wanted me to sell. It was made of leopard fur complete with the leopard's head. It was heartbreaking to see that purse. The little eyes staring out at you, the little ears and nose. I knew that the leopard was on the endangered list and thankfully I did research before I attempted to sell it. Once I told her what the fines and penalties were and that we were'nt good enough friends for me to suffer the consequences, she didn't want the purse anymore. The purse probably would have brought very good money, but I donated it to the local natural history museum instead.
On the funnier side, a friend of mine had a leather coat that was lined with mink. He was walking through the mall a few years ago when a little old lady came up from behind him and wacked him on the back of his head with her purse. The look on his face was priceless. I laughed so hard I nearly split my sides. Thankfully he wasn't hurt, but the moment was priceless.
You have to know the person I'm talking about. He's a huge guy and this lady was old and small. If she wouldn't have had a shoulder bag, she never would have reached the back of his head. She couldn't have been more than 5'2" tall. He's well over 6'.
posted on July 31, 2005 10:27:02 AM new
Cheryl, PETA would love to have that coat to remind people that Fur is Dead. They continually ask people donate any fur items to them.
toybuyer, even more than being funny the whack was deserved.
You take your chances if you wear fur which belongs to the animal that was killed/tortured & skinned so some lame brained human could parade around in it thinking they look good.
I agree. I have a coat that looks so much like real fur that people actually stop me. I have had to show the tag. I also have a full length sable that was my grandmother's from back in the day. I won't give it to PETA for sentimental reasons. Growing up during the depression, when one could finally afford the finer things, a fur was usually the first thing bought. This was back in the late 40's, early 50's. However, I won't wear it.
However, hypocritical though it may be, I don't have a problem with rabbit fur. Just wild animal fur.
posted on July 31, 2005 11:27:45 AM new
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posted on July 31, 2005 11:39:08 AM new
When my grandmother passed away a few years ago, she left her fur coats and throws to us granddaughters, all of us promptly refused to accept any of them. They are still in a storage facility and her "estate" pays the yearly fee.
My aunt and mom will not donate them to PETA as they say there is sentimental value...but I say how can you be sentimental over objects that are 40 miles away in a refreigerator?
posted on July 31, 2005 11:51:44 AM new
WHOA, well all I can say is I guess I should thank my lucky eBay stars that eBay cancelled my auction cuz I sure don't want to pay a fine like that and go to prison, yikes!!
No, no original sales slip but you can tell it's very old.
Welp, the cheetah cape doesn't even belong to me, I was selling for a fellow antique dealer that does not deal in vintage clothing and only picks up this stuff for me at auctions since he knows I love to sell vintage clothing.
I think I'll do myself a favor and give it back to him LOL
posted on July 31, 2005 01:19:07 PM newtoybuyer, even more than being funny the whack was deserved
Maybe its just pain tolerance and whom or what is allowed to feel it that I don't understand.
Like you, I don't wear fur but then again I do use leather shoes and purses.
Gina50 (aside from my tongue in cheek post above): When you receive consignments, remember that some vintage native american jewelry made with bear claws will also be exempt. Even if its only illegal in California, eBay will boot the auction because their computer servers are in California and, therefore, the origin of them, not you, is where the enforcement lies.
Fines and property confiscation (both state and federal) are much more liberal in regards to wildlife.
You'll find more consignments.
toybuyer
(who worked for State and Federal Game Wardens on statute enforcement) but never understands the superiority of others thinking that people are less than animals.
posted on July 31, 2005 02:23:53 PM new
toybuyer, people are less than animals in this way, we serve no purpose on Earth whatsoever. We destroy, polute, deplete, contaminate, overpopulate & it goes on & on. No animal does that naturally & if it does it's because we upset the delicate balance of nature by our thinking we can slaughter or take over their territories, do anything we like for our needs even to the point of their extinction.
We have certainly messed up this Earth & are now desperately trying to rectify it before it's too late. We are the only animal that has done that & the only one that ever will.
If every human died tomorrow the Earth would go on & actually thrive on the other hand if even every spider or bird dies tomorrow the Earth would soon come to an end. They eat trillions of insects a day & if they didn't soon there would not be anything green left on Earth.
Everything would soon starve & there would be no trees to clean the air. The little creatures are worth their weight in gold, we can't live without them, but they can live without us.
No human being has ever done anything to better the Earth, ourselves yes, but not the Earth. We are not needed & not part of the balance, never will be. We just don't fit into the food chain.
But, I am certainly glad to be here, I'm glad we're all here.
here's a strange story that your "refrigerated and 40 miles away" post reminded me of. when my dad died and was cremated, his ashes languished in an urn at the funeral parlor for...months. until i nagged my mom so much that she sent one of my sisters to retrieve them. i live far, far away then the urn languished in a coat closet for about another year, before finally being _buried_ in a large cemetery plot bought for this purpose. strange!
Here's one for you: I don't even kill spiders although I am constantly being bitten by them. While in Hocking Hills, outside the cabin door was a wolf spider the size of a tarantula. My brother freaked and wanted to kill it. In fact, he went inside the cabin to get something to spray it with. I stood between him and the spider so he couldn't kill it. It was ugly and it was huge, but it was also keeping mosquitos and flies at bay. Besides, his home is those woods, not ours. We were visitors.
posted on July 31, 2005 04:09:31 PM new
Cheryl...I have always kept the spider webs cleaned out of the garage and smashed any spider in sight. Now that the West Nile Virus has reached the west coast, my county has been hit especially hard, with several cases reported locally. West Nile is spread by mosquitos that feed on infected birds, and can be deadly. Now, I'm looking at those spiders in an entirely different light. Especially their ability to snare those mosquitos and eliminate them. The cobwebs are actually beneficial in this respect, as are the spiders that spin them. Any idea what I could feed a spider to fatten him up and make him mean?
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on July 31, 2005 04:16:41 PM newAny idea what I could feed a spider to fatten him up and make him mean?
Well mine seem to prefer ankles, legs and occasionally a butt cheek. No kidding. I've been bitten on the behind. Have no idea how. I do understand that in the winter they will crawl into bed with you because it's dark and warm and that's probably when I've been bitten. Yuk! Nothing like walking around with an itchy behind. LOL!
posted on July 31, 2005 04:18:14 PM new
We kill spiders every chance we get! My husband was bitten by a brown recluse a few years ago and almost died. Unless you know that is a nice friendly non-poisonous spider, I'd stomp him dead.
Ugly things happen with a brown recluse bite. My husband ended up having to take steroids, gained weight, had horrible side effects, had unexplained swelling in his knees so horribly he could barely walk, I could go on and on... Death to spiders!
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posted on July 31, 2005 04:39:25 PM new
The brown recluse should be killed on sight. Just to dangerous and life threatening to be allowed to exist. The only poisonous spiders we have to worry about around here are black widows. They are easy to locate because of their extremely strong and distinctively shapes webs. I nail them whenever I see one. But in their defense, the black widow made a tremendous contribution to the war effort during WW2. Their webs were harvested and used in bomb sights on U.S. bombers. The deadliest sting of any black widow was in Hiroshima in 1945.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on July 31, 2005 07:01:12 PM new
Cheryl when I read your post I thought, he lives there, but read on & saw you thought the same thing. Somehow I knew you would feel the same way.
sparkz, so glad to see you are a convert. That spider you spared might just be the one that saved your life.
We have two poisonous spiders in the USA, Brown Recluse & Black Widow & if I were ever unlucky enough to be bitten I would rather it be the Black Widow. Both are pretty easy to identify, the widow with the red hourglass on her abdomen & the recluse with the violin shape on the back. I would hate to do it, but most likely would kill a recluse. The bite enlarges to become huge area of necrotic tissue & lasts for months. Very serious & really scary. As for all the others, helpful & harmless. Give them a break & they will reward you by catching insects.
posted on July 31, 2005 07:12:21 PM new
toybuyer~Bear Claws too??!!
Oh, ok I see what you're saying about the laws on this stuff and with eBay being in California and all.
I read somewhere a few years ago.... that if you have spiders in your basement you don't have to worry about having radon!
Now, I have no idea if that is a proven fact but they said that spiders can't live where there is radon.
LOL
Caroline