vintagepostcardsdotorg
|
posted on September 23, 2005 08:30:26 AM
three levee breaches and hurricane rita hasn't even gotten there yet. how discouraging to people there.
http://stores.ebay.com/postcards-postcards?refid=store
http://www.vintagepostcards.org
|
carolinetyler
|
posted on September 23, 2005 01:43:46 PM
It is discouraging for them. Makes you wonder about rebuilding there - but they seem to be heck bent on it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Caroline
|
fenix03
|
posted on September 23, 2005 02:16:22 PM
Using this second flood as a measuring stick is just wrong. Nothing has been fixed yet.
Giving up now would be like having a tree fall and put a hole in your roof. You decide to fix it but while the tarp is on and before the repairs it rains in the house again. Are you going to say that it's not worth keeping the house? Of course not. You FIX the roof then move forward.. you don't judge the worth of the house on the worthiness of a temporary patch.
The levee had a temporary patch, most of the pumps still are not working and the ones that are are working at a small percentage of capability because of limited electricity.
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
An intelligent deaf-mute is better than an ignorant person who can speak.
|
toasted36
|
posted on September 23, 2005 02:57:40 PM
A little different than a hole in the roof...your talking a whole house cause I doubt it would be possible to save what is left because of mold growing. I think everyone that had there house under water will have to tear it down and rebuild. Money will be a real issue on people rebuilding or not. I feel really sorry for the people that didn't have flood insurance and will not be able to rebuild. I think you see a lot of land being sold for rock bottom prices and a lot of people moving on to another state to start over. It's sad to think that but prolly true. It has to be so depressing for anyone in that area.
|
fenix03
|
posted on September 23, 2005 03:14:35 PM
Toasted -I'm not talking about trying to save the houses left standing in New Orleans. They have to come to down. There is no question about that. Unless they are have aluminum stud framing there is no point in trying to save any structure that sat in that water. It's not just a mold issue but also an issue of what other potential toxic materials were in the water that were soaked up by the wood frames.
What I was talking about is rebuilding the city. People were asking if the city should be rebuilt because of todays reoccurrence of flooding. That was what the patched roof analogy was referring to.
(BTW - I think companies that make that aluminum framing material are going to do very well once the rebuild begins. Insurance companies should offer discounts based on usage of it since it could make the difference between rebuilding an entire house and replacing sheetrock on one floor)
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
An intelligent deaf-mute is better than an ignorant person who can speak.
[ edited by fenix03 on Sep 23, 2005 03:16 PM ]
|
toasted36
|
posted on September 23, 2005 03:41:22 PM
Oh ,I'm sure they will rebuild and I hope they rebuild the levees first .The city will most likely look better than it ever did before ,5 years or more down the road. The poor without insurance won't be there anymore or will be renters at that point cause someone rich will buy up all land for pennies on the dollar.It's sad to think of what people have lost at this point and the new breaches in the levees make it even worse. The mental state of anyone in that area has to be pushing the limits. I had a lady yesterday looking for things for a person she has staying with her from the New Orleans area that relocating here in SC in the thrift type store I volunteer at one day a week...all funds go to Carolina hospice . She said the lady didn't even want to leave the house to go look for things to put in her new apartment cause she was so depressed
|
ladyjewels2000
|
posted on September 23, 2005 03:43:19 PM
My heart just really goes out to all who know and love New Orleans.
|
sparkz
|
posted on September 23, 2005 04:10:32 PM
According to one news account, this new flooding won't really be that catastrophic. It is flooding areas that flooded previously and most everything is ruined from the first time. At least, N.O. will have a well defined flood plain. Don't look for residential structures to be rebuilt in the flood prone sections of the city. Most people would have to borrow the money for new construction, and all lenders require flood insurance in flood plains. The premiums for this insurance would be far beyond the means of most of these people. I have a feeling it will be quite a long time and several billion dollars before EPA would clear many of these areas for habitation again.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
|
fenix03
|
posted on September 23, 2005 05:19:22 PM
Sparx - when my parents bought the land for their house they lucked out and picked the one area in their town that is not in a flood plain. Insurance would have been about 25% higher had they bought the other property they were looking at.
Looks like they also lucked out with the change in he storm path. They are going to get wet but shouldn't get the winds. If you want to see something cool you should see the frame construction on this house. There are steel rods that are anchored in the concrete foundation that extend up the full length of each wall stud and are screwed down at the top of the ceiling beams. Then when you go to the second story each stud has a metal strap that is hammered into the top of the first floor stud, then into the second story floor beams and then finally connected to the bottom of the second story wall studs. As my step put it...
It ensures that if the house is blown away, it'll all be in one piece. The whole house, foundation and all will travel as one like a tumbleweed across the plains. 
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
An intelligent deaf-mute is better than an ignorant person who can speak.
|
sparkz
|
posted on September 23, 2005 06:42:43 PM
Fenix...Sounds like they had the foresight to make some smart decisions before the first nail was driven. It only makes sense, when you're in an area that has the potential to experience tropical storm or hurricane strength winds. So many people underestimate all the factors that are involved with these storms. For instance, all day long everyone has been concentrating on the eye of Rita, and where it will come ashore. The eye of the storm will have a wind speed of about 5 mph. The strongest winds will be in the northeast quadrant at the eyewall. And very real damage can occur many miles from the body of the hurricane. I have not seen one mention of the tornadoes that have been spawned all day long in the Baton Rouge - New Orleans and Mississipi gulf area by this storm. It may cost your parents a few extra bucks for the steel reinforcement today, but it could save them many thousands down the line. here is an Ebay seller who actually sells solid steel house kits. Every thing is prefab and it bolts toghther on your site. Bet these are going to be popular this winter.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
|
fenix03
|
posted on September 23, 2005 06:59:54 PM
Sparx - From my understanding, much of it is Texas building code in costal regions. There are so many obvious things that I don't think most people would thnk of. My step has been in construction as a builder and inspector for 30 years and even he got caught on one design item... east facing exterior doors cannot open inward. Such an obvious thing when you think of it but how many people would think of it?
~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~ • ~~~
An intelligent deaf-mute is better than an ignorant person who can speak.
|
chimpchamp
|
posted on September 23, 2005 07:10:22 PM
Its worth the money when constructing to go for stainless steel studs. They are structurally more sound not only for hurricanes but for tornadoes, flooding and to some extent fire.
[ edited by chimpchamp on Sep 23, 2005 07:11 PM ]
|
sparkz
|
posted on September 23, 2005 07:22:19 PM
In case anyone wonders what kind of flood risk their home is, go to www.floodsmart.gov. Click on the link on the right side of the page that says "What's your flood risk?" and enter your location information. Be sure to check on the address of any home you intend to buy in the future, also.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
[ edited by sparkz on Sep 23, 2005 07:58 PM ]
|
