snoozysuzy
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posted on October 6, 2005 06:06:06 PM
I am so sick of retracted bid explanations being "entered wrong amount"...........especially when the bid is retracted over 24 hours after it was placed. Usually when you enter the wrong amount you realize it right away. Wish ebay could do something more about people who just decide they don't want something and give feeble excuses. Now if she had entered like $250,000 instead of $250 I can understand. But this gal entered $29.00 which was reasonable for what she was bidding on. So...excuses, excuses...it's more than obvious that she just changed her mind.
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on October 6, 2005 06:26:21 PM
I just had one of those. If it's legit, they will then enter a correct amount.
I just had a retraction of $333, which might have been high for the item (at $202 right now). If they had turned around and bid $233 or some similar number, I'd figure it was an honest mistake.
They're probably just trying to suss out the second place bidder's amount, which isn't "playing nice." I banned this guy, on the theory that he would be a PITA if he later bid and won, a view that is supported by some of his feedback.
Claude
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fenix03
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posted on October 6, 2005 07:23:10 PM
Is there some reason that you believe that eBay should deny people the right to change their mind before a sale is final?
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sparkz
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posted on October 6, 2005 07:31:17 PM
The person who retracts the bid does not have a chance to give the real reason. They must select a reason from a very short list that Ebay provides. The same is true if you cancel a listing. You must choose a reason from a list Ebay provides. You are not allowed to type in the real reason. In both cases, it's a matter of choosing the smallest lie.
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JACKSWEBB
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posted on October 6, 2005 07:34:31 PM
You can't just Change your mind in the REAL Auction world......They see you right to the front door and Request that you NEVER COME BACK! SLAM!
Keep on keepin' on.
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digitalconsignment
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posted on October 6, 2005 07:53:08 PM
IMHO,
If they retract a bid do you really want to deal with them as a forced customer? Aren't you inviting trouble that way? Thoughts?
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fenix03
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posted on October 6, 2005 10:04:24 PM
Jack - yes - but then this is not an auction house is it? It's a very different world. At an auction house you know what you are getting, everything is upfront and there is no question as to whether you are actually going to gain possession of the item once you pay for it. Can you say the same thing about ebay?
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snoozysuzy
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posted on October 6, 2005 10:56:04 PM
Good thoughts, I didn't know that ebay only allowed a few choices to choose from for "opting out" of your bid. I guess they need to include..."found something else I like better" in the choices....and, yes, I do think that ebay states it pretty clearly that your bid is an obligation to pay...so I guess they sort of deny you the right to "change your mind" with that said.
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fenix03
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posted on October 7, 2005 04:32:23 AM
Snoozy I believe that as long as the seller is given the right to change their mind on making the sale and can cancel the auction, they should allow buyers to change their mind. I'd rather someone admit early in the game that they made a mistake than have to deal with it once th auction has ended.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 7, 2005 06:25:54 AM
Fenix, you got that right, I would rather have a bid retracted than to have to deal with an NPB.
eBay is not a REAL auction and those sellers clinging to that idea set themselves up for irritation.
At a REAL auction you have an opportunity to at least look at the item, see the item as it really is, take immediate possession of the item.
Seller can't tell you they can no longer find it and return your money, then a few months later they seemed to have found it with a starting bid higher than for what you won it for.
Ron
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cashinyourcloset
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posted on October 7, 2005 06:53:56 AM
fenix and others,
I don't disagree with the bidder's right to cancel a bid. I just personally feel that most people who do that aren't the types of customers that will make for a pleasant transaction for me, and I reserve the right to ban them. Not a big deal, they probably won't bid on another item of mine anyway.
Having said all that, the ONE time I retracted a bid, it was an honest mistake, and I immediately entered a bid for the amount I intended to put in. I forget the exact numbers, but I had entered a bid for a few thousand dollars on a remote control for my ReplayTV... probably a bit on the high side (not me, the bid, or maybe it WAS me) 
Claude
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snoozysuzy
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posted on October 7, 2005 06:57:31 AM
I've never cancelled an auction, but I guess it's good to know that I can...in case my dog ever rips something to shreds... Thanks for your thoughts..I suppose I should be more forgiving. I think someone did tell me once that ebay does keep record of retractions and if someone shows a pattern or high frequency..they warn them? I'd just like to know that it is discouraged.
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JACKSWEBB
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posted on October 7, 2005 07:03:03 AM
Some clown had over 100 retractions in a matter of WEEKS, E bay never did anything....
Keep on keepin' on.
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tonimar1
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posted on October 7, 2005 08:37:28 AM
What bothers me more then a bid being retracted is that the bidder just picks anything for a reason since there is not enough choices to choose from. One bidder of mine canceled a bid and checked the box that reads........Seller didn't ans email or something like that.
I emailed that bidder and asked why did you pick I don't ans emails that dose not look good if other bidders see that. He said he was sorry but he didn't know which one to check........lol
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sparkz
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posted on October 7, 2005 09:19:17 AM
Suzy...The "entered wrong amount" excuse is one of the tamest that Ebay offers a bid retractor to use. The other options tend to make the seller look bad. One of them is "Unable to contact seller". Another is "Seller changed description". The best is " Administrative cancellation" by Ebay. That means Ebay zapped a deadbeat before they had a chance to wreck your auction. I agree with the others, it is not fun to have a bid retracted, but it's much better than having to deal with an NPB later.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 7, 2005 11:26:01 AM
Jack, that is amazing and the person was never given a suspension?
That is abuse of system pure and simple.
Ron
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stonecold613
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posted on October 9, 2005 01:02:02 PM
I think the real issue here is that the bids are being placed and then retracted days later. It is clear that this is other sellers interfering with your auctions attempting to raise the price of your item high enough so other buyers will bid on their item instead. Ebay needs to reinstate the 12 hour rule. If you place a bid, you can retract it within 12 hours, otherwise it stands. No exceptions. In fact, lets reduce the hours to 3 hours. That is plenty of time for correction of a wrong bid amount.
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London4
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posted on October 9, 2005 04:39:11 PM
Putting a time limit on allowing bid cancellations will work only if ebay is willing to back it up by immediately suspending buyers who don't follow through if they win the auction.
Do you want to be the seller who has to file a NPB because the buyer didn't retract the bid in the proscribed time period and then didn't pay? It's not fun to have buyers retract bids but it's a lot easier than having them not pay.
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fenix03
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posted on October 9, 2005 05:55:07 PM
What was that I said about the concentration of paranoids on one board..... 
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stonecold613
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posted on October 9, 2005 08:08:42 PM
Do you want to be the seller who has to file a NPB because the buyer didn't retract the bid in the proscribed time period and then didn't pay?
Yes.
At least then the low life will have a strike against them.
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