pandorasbox
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posted on November 15, 2005 11:34:59 PM new
Well,well..what have we here?
The level playing field has just undergone a tectonic shift:
http://www.google.com/base/welcome
Best,
Michael
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 12:01:16 AM new
I got my listing to go! WOOO HOOO FREE FREE FREE
Ebay is going to have to offer a lot more than a 10 cent listing day to hold back the flood!!
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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estatesalestuff
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posted on November 16, 2005 12:30:40 AM new
WOW!!!! ... how awesome this is! ...
neglus, did you see after listing something, this part: "Have lots of stuff to add to Google Base? Do it fast with a bulk upload. Learn more or get started."
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 12:37:44 AM new
There are a few problems that I can see - didn't give many payment options (no PayPal, no Money Orders), can't indicate you ship worldwide, I can't get the image I want to show in the thumbnail(shows the back and not the front no matter in which order I add them)...has anyone else tried it?
I saw that Marcia about the bulk uploader but not sure how to add pics that way (or how to do it all for that matter LOL)...is anyone else awake???
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 12:41:15 AM new
Here's a little more info:
http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3564506
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 12:46:25 AM new
Here's my listing:
http://base.google.com/base/items?oid=10497349760090019452
Not as fancy as ebay but maybe more exposure. It wouldn't let me link to ebay 
But hey! It's FREE FREE FREE - even image hosting with click to enlarge!
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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agate18
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posted on November 16, 2005 01:29:01 AM new
I just went into google to have a look at the selling site. found this writeup. thought i would put it up so all can read.
http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html
[ edited by agate18 on Nov 16, 2005 01:31 AM ]
[ edited by agate18 on Nov 16, 2005 01:39 AM ]
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estatesalestuff
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posted on November 16, 2005 03:49:19 AM new
I listed a few things too ... how cool is that!? ... neglus, you can go in and edit it to fix the errors, ... btw, i found your post card rigids on there.
... i found their policies an interesting read, too.
http://base.google.com/base/base_policies.html
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estatesalestuff
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posted on November 16, 2005 03:49:54 AM new
hey Michael ... helluva scoop. Thanks! 
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birgittaw
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posted on November 16, 2005 04:28:55 AM new
Way to go! Thanks -- love this board for just this kind of thing.
Listed one item just to get feel for it -- very simple and refreshlingly fast. Neglus, found your post card by doing search on Victorian post card immediately -- now I want you to deliver this to SC, which is less than the 1000 miles indicated (you may want to change this!)
Thanks again -- that woke me up in a hurry!
B/
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aintrichyet
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posted on November 16, 2005 04:49:02 AM new
We might all get filthy rich! LOL.
And so cool how you can put a bunch of keywords in.
It let me do a listing for a company I just formed this Fall ... I love it!
GonnaBeRich in Ohio
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 04:51:41 AM new
I do wish they'd put better delivery options! Birgit, put on the specks...I put 10,000 not 1000. I really would deliver worldwide - maybe I should put 25,000 - that should about cover it!
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LtRay
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posted on November 16, 2005 04:52:41 AM new
LOL, I saw your "Will Deliver" and laughed. Don't you just KNOW some dummy will want it hand carried?
Thanks for the Tip. I just listed a book and it was very easy! I LUV IT!
I wonder how Google is going to keep all of the new advertising out of the serious searches?
Can you imagine how hard it is going to be to find something not related to stuff for sale??? It was already becoming a pain to sort out all of the TIAS and RubyLane hits to get to what you were really looking for.
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birgittaw
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posted on November 16, 2005 04:58:02 AM new
Third cup of coffee now sees the 10,000 miles!
B/
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dblfugger9
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posted on November 16, 2005 05:31:57 AM new
wow...how cool is that? Leave it to google, boy! That was the easist listing ever!
I dont suppose they will be able to take paypal as ebay/pp probably wouldnt want to support the competition...unless it takes off huge and they buy into a piece of it or something....
Now what do I do - go look in the search and see if my for sale item comes up?
hmmmm...would be nice, no fees....
thanks michael for posting that!
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dblfugger9
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posted on November 16, 2005 05:36:51 AM new
What would be the URL it should come up under in a regular google search? Anybody know?
I dont see my item. Maybe it takes awhile ?
Edit: never mind I just saw it said: processing will publish soon.
[ edited by dblfugger9 on Nov 16, 2005 05:39 AM ]
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niel35
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posted on November 16, 2005 05:40:17 AM new
here ya go Agate
[url]http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html
[/url]
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niel35
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posted on November 16, 2005 05:40:57 AM new
didn't work for me either
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agate18
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posted on November 16, 2005 06:05:44 AM new
Thanks niel. i thought it was just me. so i just went in and re copied it.
http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html
looks the same to me.
so what have i done wrong. i can bring up the page no problem. i copied the address out of the address bar by highlighting it then copy.
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i also copied this part as well
Google Terms of Service for Your Personal Use
Welcome! By using Google's search engine or other Google services ("Google Services" , you agree to be bound by the following terms and conditions (the "Terms of Service". As used in this agreement, "Google Services" does not include the Adwords or Adsense programs.
Content Linked to by Google
The sites displayed as search results or linked to by Google Services are developed by people over whom Google exercises no control. The search results that appear from Google's indices are indexed by Google's automated machinery and computers, and Google cannot and does not screen the sites before including them in the indices from which such automated search results are gathered. A search using Google Services may produce search results and links to sites that some people find objectionable, inappropriate, or offensive. We cannot guarantee that a Google search will not locate unintended or objectionable content and assume no responsibility for the content of any site included in any search results or otherwise linked to by the Google Services.
Personal Use Only
The Google Services are made available for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use the Google Services to sell a product or service, or to increase traffic to your Web site for commercial reasons, such as advertising sales. You may not take the results from a Google search and reformat and display them, or mirror the Google home page or results pages on your Web site. You may not "meta-search" Google. If you want to make commercial use of the Google Services, you must enter into an agreement with Google to do so in advance. Please contact us for more information.
If you are interested in adding a Google search box to your web site or your company's web site, we encourage you to do so.
No Automated Querying
You may not send automated queries of any sort to Google's system without express permission in advance from Google. Note that "sending automated queries" includes, among other things:
* using any software which sends queries to Google to determine how a website or webpage "ranks" on Google for various queries;
* "meta-searching" Google; and
* performing "offline" searches on Google.
Please do not write to Google to request permission to "meta-search" Google for a research project, as such requests will not be granted.
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jackswebb
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posted on November 16, 2005 08:18:24 AM new
I just went into MY Account,,,it gave my E mail address to the WORLD,,,,I changed it.
Point is,,,can't/won't spammers be able to SEE our e mail addresses????? I guess so....
Keep on keepin' on.
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 08:48:06 AM new
Agate: I wonder if that verbage was drafted BEFORE google base (it's still in beta now)
Jack - In the upper right corner is a link "MY Account" you can set your preferences there..they hide your email address and the customer just sees a "contact" link ..I did that with my name.
That being said, I tried clicking on the "contact button" on one of my listings and it didn't work. Can someone else try? (Link is at the top of this thread) THANKS
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northwoodsguy
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posted on November 16, 2005 09:11:49 AM new
Hello, neglus....
I clicked on your listing where it says, "contact the poster," and my "Outlook Express" immediately popped up.
The e-mail address it gave me (in order to contact you) was quite long, and it ended in @base.google.com. I didn't want to post the entire e-mail address here in order to protect your privacy.
Take care. Greg
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on November 16, 2005 09:18:48 AM new
Yes, it brought up a base.google.com address for you.
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neglus
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posted on November 16, 2005 09:20:52 AM new
Thanks - then it is screening the real email address - I am using a short GMail address.
Incidently the little map they are using to show location is showing a site within a mile of me (maybe more like 6 blocks). I don't think I gave my street address (registered with Gmail a long time ago) and Maple Grove is several square miles - weird!
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jake
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posted on November 16, 2005 09:32:02 AM new
So, how is this any different from Froogle???
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jackswebb
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posted on November 16, 2005 10:14:30 AM new
Is NOT getting an e mail notification normal for a google ad?
Are there counters? I don't see one.
Keep on keepin' on.
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photosensitive
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posted on November 16, 2005 10:42:08 AM new
Am I missreading the terms. "The Google Services are made available for your personal, non-commercial use only. You may not use the Google Services to sell a product or service...".
I know the ads said "Listing of your used car for sale". Is it the listing service that can not be sold? Item for sale? OK? Not?
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pandorasbox
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posted on November 16, 2005 10:47:30 AM new
Jake...good question and at this time its hard to know how gbase is searched per se other than results appearing in a natural search.
Froogle as such, is a price comparison platform and at least for now, is separate from gbase.
What will happen in the future only G knows..but I can say that we are witnessing something very big. These guys are really astounding. This is not an assault on eBay or any particular segment of the web marketplace but a fundamental re-ordering not only of commerce / advertising but of how information itself is defined. Information not just as a static whole but as a dynamic of its constituent elements.
Even in this rudimentary state, look how easy they made the process...the photos, the mash-up with Google maps, etc.
And its not a matter of G being perfect, far from it..they could be wrong, very wrong.
But what is truly admirable and equally rare is the sheer scope and audacity of their vision insofar as I can grasp it.
In a world of sequels and also-ran ploys masking as ideas, G stands alone.
Best,
Michael
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Everything eBay...and More. E-Auction-Air
http://www.eauctionair.com
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Roadsmith
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posted on November 16, 2005 11:18:37 AM new
Very Basic Question! Just rose from my sickbed to see this thread. Can I pull images into my google auction (it is an auction, right? and not fixed price?) from Image Hosting in Vendio?
Y'know, this seems SO BIG! Like we're all witnessing the second coming or something.
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northwoodsguy
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posted on November 16, 2005 11:45:32 AM new
Roadsmith, it appears Google Base is fixed price.
Yes, you can use your images in Vendio
(I tried a sample listing and it worked!)
You have to type in the URL for each image.....
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/yourvendiousername/thenameofyourimagefile.jpg
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