posted on December 14, 2005 01:45:38 PMKidney Stone!
Me, the PROUD PAPA, crawled into the ER in the middle of the night...THEY said I was as GREEN as KERMIT!
Ralphie was LHAO -- "See Daddy chew the carpet & like a GIRLEY-MAN"
Geeeesh! Ya ever have one of THOSE...years?
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
posted on December 14, 2005 02:00:42 PM
This puppy was me 10th since 1976 -- first one screamed out during BICENTENNIAL WEEKEND up at YORK BEACH ME....
The GOOD NEWS is that this DEMON SEED passed!
The BAD NEWS: they did a CAT SCAN while I was passed out & found a BOULDER in the opposite kidney -- Oh! For Joy!
What a pi$$er!
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
posted on December 14, 2005 02:21:44 PM
Oh you poor thing ! I've never had one but my hubby has had 4...the first 2 he passed with just alot of pain ,the 3rd they removed and put a shunt in (he said he was a STP racer lol when they pulled it out zingggg) the last one he just passed about 4 monthes ago it was 6-1/2 mm AKA boulder and it was already in the bladder by the time I got him to the ER so they said just let him pass naturally...gulp!! I aint ever seen so many shades of green .It was bad.
posted on December 14, 2005 02:44:38 PM
arrrghhhhh tomwii ... i FEEL for ya man ... will they have to remove the boulder???? ... or aim a pulsating laser at it to break it down? ... ugh ... i just can't imagine what you're going thru ... i'm SURE it must be as painful as childbirth. lol ... hang in there, buddy ... (and RALPH, don't look so smug! shame!)
posted on December 14, 2005 02:58:03 PM
I have had 5 of them, but only had to have crushed, all of the others passed. There is no pain as bad a kidney stone. At least thats what my secretary told me & she had 3 kids & said childbirth was a snap compared to a k-stone.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
[ edited by sanmar on Dec 14, 2005 02:59 PM ]
posted on December 14, 2005 03:07:23 PM
OH not the gift you need for Christmas!
I once had a very large one. They used some kind of high pressure water treatment to break it up. I had a few sessions of sharp pain but not that much. I was told that I was lucky it was so big because it would have been more painful if it was smaller.
Tell Ralphie to take good care of you. -----o----o----o----o----o----o----o----o
“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on December 14, 2005 03:33:06 PM
Tom, there is that procedure called - um - lithotripsy or some such; they shoot some sort of death rays at the bugger. Heard of it? Tried it? You do have my sympathy, poor fella.
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posted on December 14, 2005 03:52:52 PM
Yeah, Roady!
I'll need an IVP soon to determine if that ROCK in the LEFT kidney needs LITHOTRIPSY...I believe that's actually a kewl ULTRASOUND procedure that explodes the stone...
Guess I'll start drinking CRANBERRY JUICE by the GALLONS again...
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
posted on December 14, 2005 04:29:52 PM
tomwii ...
GET WELL SOON ...
As I mentioned last summer, I am coming to Jax FL the 26th for a week of fun and frivolty (is that a word????) ... and if you are around, and up to it, I still want to meet up with you at my brother-in-law's "Eric's Subs" nearby ... much of that week is filled up with fam stuff, but lots of slots that are not ... would love to meet Ralphie and you ... hope it can happen ...
posted on December 14, 2005 04:40:18 PM
Tom...Perhaps it's time to rethink your affinity for Cahteau Le Thunderbird and consider the Suds Of Bud, or the Curse Of Coors. Keep that uric acid flowing in a diluted downhill direction and don't give it a chance to settle long enough to crystalize. Much cheaper, more effective and better tasting than cranberry juice. Make Ralphie drink the cranberry juice. It'll serve him right for laughing at you
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on December 14, 2005 05:52:23 PM
yikes Tom 10 since 1976?? I never had one,but my brother had one 20 years ago that had to be operated on.Since nobody else asked,what actually causes these-not enough liquids?
posted on December 14, 2005 06:02:39 PM"Since nobody else asked,what actually causes these...?"
Tight shoes.
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
posted on December 14, 2005 06:38:11 PM
classic, forget the tight shoes
Read this:
[b]What causes kidney stones?
Kidney stones form when the salts and minerals that are normally found in the urine become out of balance. Different kinds of kidney stones are formed from salts in the urine.
Calcium stones
These are the most common type of kidney stones. They are made of calcium and oxalate, which are chemicals found naturally in certain foods (see "Prevention", below for examples of these foods). A diet with a high content of calcium and oxalate can increase the concentration of these chemicals in the urine and make it more likely for stones to form. Other factors include:
excess vitamin D,
overactive parathyroid glands,
medical conditions such as cancer, some kidney diseases, or a disease called sarcoidosis.
Uric acid stones
Excess amounts of uric acid can be caused by eating a lot of meat. Conditions such as gout and treatments such as chemotherapy can also increase the risk of getting uric acid stones.
Struvite stones (infection stones)
These are caused by too much ammonia in the urine. Ammonia is a chemical produced by the bacteria that cause urinary tract infections. This kind of stone is most often found in women.
Cystine stones
These are caused by a hereditary disorder called cystinuria, which affects about one per cent of men and women.
Who gets kidney stones?
Some people are more likely to get kidney stones than others. Men are more prone than women, and people who have previously had a kidney stone have a 60% chance of getting another stone within seven years. Other factors include:
a family history of kidney stones,
being aged between 20 and 40,
taking certain medicines such as diuretics (water tablets), antacids and thyroid medications,
having only one kidney,
eating a diet high in protein but very low in fibre,
becoming dehydrated by not drinking enough fluids or living or working in a hot place,
having poor mobility (eg, being confined to bed),
having an ileostomy, eg, for Crohn’s disease.
The symptoms
Many kidney stones don't move and are too small to cause symptoms. These are often referred to as "silent" stones.
If a kidney stone causes a blockage, or moves down the ureter, it may cause some of the following symptoms:
pain or aching in the back on one or both sides,
spasms of intense pain (anywhere between the bottom of the ribs and the groin),
bloody, cloudy or smelly urine,
nausea and vomiting,
a frequent urge to urinate,
a burning sensation during urination,
fever and chills.
These can also be symptoms of a urinary tract infection, or cystitis, which is much more common in young women than kidney stones. Anyone who has one or more of these symptoms should seek medical advice.[/b]
posted on December 14, 2005 07:09:58 PM
Thats one thing I don't miss about Florida,the crunchy water.
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Two men sit behind bars,one sees mud the other sees stars.
Sorry to hear that Tom. I hope that Ralphie is taking very good care of you. He should be pampering you.
A female acquaintance told me once that passing a kidney stone was comparable to giving birth to a baby. I don't know about the comparison since I have only given birth not a kidney stone.
posted on December 14, 2005 07:46:55 PM
Tom, I really feel for you, I know how much pain you were in.
I've seen grown men in tears when they came into the ER.
classic, I should have also added prevention:
"Prevention
Knowing the exact cause and type of stone enables people to make changes that can help prevent further stones.
To help prevent any type of stone, fluid intake should be two to three litres per day - water is best.
People who get calcium stones should cut down on foods that have high levels of calcium (dairy products and leafy green vegetables), and oxalate (chocolate, tea, rhubarb, cooked spinach and asparagus). It's important to discuss dietary changes with a doctor – not everyone finds them helpful.
People who get uric acid stones should eat less meat, fish and poultry. Also to help prevent uric acid stones, medicine may be prescribed to control the level of uric acid in the urine.
People who get struvite or "infection" stones need to keep the urine free of bacteria that can cause infection. This may mean taking long-term antibiotics"
posted on December 14, 2005 08:26:00 PM
Sorry to hear you've been having so much fun Tomwii. Perhaps you need to start filtering the sand out of your water
The good news is, they now have cranberry concentrate in capsules, so you don't have to drink gallons of it everyday.
Unfortunately, you still need to drink lots of water. With all those stories about what fish do in it, I know its hard to swallow, but try not to think about it <g>
posted on December 15, 2005 06:46:21 AM
I notice in the "other" causes of the calcium stones is overactive parathyroid glands. Mine was caused by a parathyroid tumor. The parathyroids are the glands that control calcium absorption in the body. My doctor kept saying the high calcium levels in my blood did not mean anything. Only when he went on vacation and another doctor looked at me did we find out what the problem was. These tumors are almost always benign (as mine was) but if the problem goes on too long the results are horrendous and the stones are the least of the damage. Removing the offending gland solves the problem. As I said not a common cause but I can say for sure a possible one.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
posted on December 15, 2005 08:49:24 AMestatesalestuff:
I'm not sure WHERE Ralphie & I are gonna be over XMAS...
Haven't decided whether or not we going down to PALM COAST to play SANTA to the 3 MUNCHKINS...DEPENDS on how well we SELL on feeBay
I will know more next week...
To JANE and EVERYBODY ELSE:
THANKS for the posts! Yeah, Jane, everytime I throw a stone, I get it analyzed & it's always a CALCIUM one, but most of the PP DRs tell me: "Hey! Some people just grow them," and there tain't much ya can do other than drink mucho CRANBERRY JUICE
I'm just not thrilled about the boulder in the LEFT! Feels like a sentence of DOOM hanging over my head!
Course, Ralphie is sooooo understanding, as he growls: "Grow up, GIRLEY-MAN!"
"We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That's what I'm telling you." —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
posted on December 15, 2005 09:44:48 AM
Tom - if it makes you feel better, my step just passed one (thought he was faking at first since his pain started the same day as my mothers surgery and he wanted attention). When he went to the doc they found the one he was trying to pass and FOUR more waiting in the wings. He's a regular stone factory.
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like a GIRLEY-MAN"
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