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 ladyjewels2000
 
posted on February 22, 2006 10:56:05 AM new
On images on Vendio. I must have missed it with all the problems over the weekend.
Does that mean I'm going to get billed another $9.99 for .80 over my limit? It was only a few days.

 
 irked
 
posted on February 22, 2006 11:11:24 AM new
Hope not. Let us know when billing time comes around.
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 lindajean
 
posted on February 22, 2006 12:42:01 PM new
I was trying to find out the same thing.

I have emailed billing and customer support but no answer yet. I started with the minimal plan to see if Vendio would work for me. Everything was oK but I get a bill for $6.75 after 1 week.

Full fee for last month and full fee for next month along with the 10 cent fee for the one listing and some fee for sales manager minimum fee (which I didn't even know they had a sales manager fee).

I know I will go over the 3 MB with just a couple of listings so need to know if I will get double billed everytime I move up a level and how to avoid all the confusion.

Hoping to get an answer soon as I'm afraid to list anything else until I find out.

 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on February 22, 2006 02:04:24 PM new
Linda,

How do you plan on going over 3MB limit with a couple of listings? Nobody wants to download 1.5 MB to see the photos in a listing, unless you're doing one of Mike's famous 100+ photos in a listing.

Most likely, either your math or your photos need some work.

Claude

 
 lindajean
 
posted on February 22, 2006 05:12:59 PM new
The only reason I'm using Vendio for this ID is because each listing will have 8 to 9 pix. I will probably be at the $29.99 fee stage within a month.

I'm posting records in lots of 10 and postcards in lots of 5 to 10. I photograph each record so people can see the info on the label. I'd rather pay the fee than type all the info but I don't want to get double charged every month.

I'm really confused about Vendio billing.

I will have several thousand items in my store so not sure Vendio is the way to go. I wanted the click to enlarge pix but may just have to settle for click pics and use my other management program for both ID's.

 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on February 22, 2006 05:17:28 PM new
Linda,

If you're putting 1.5MB of photos into each listing, you're probably losing everyone who doesn't have broadband, and probably some who do.

There's no reason that you can't do 6 or more photos, with legible labels, for less than 300kB per auction. Probably a lot less. Do you just take the jpeg that comes out of the camera, or do you "save for web?"

Claude

 
 lindajean
 
posted on February 22, 2006 05:53:23 PM new
My photo's only average 42kb but I will have several hundred listings with 8 to 10 photos in each. Eventually I will have 3,000 to 5,000 listings like I do on my other ID where I only sell single postcards and better lps and 45s.

I'm looking ahead to see if Vendio will be a viable option. I'm not over the 3MB now. They just charged me the entire amount...for two months even though I only had it for a few days before the 21st.

 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on February 22, 2006 06:00:48 PM new
I guess your statement that "I know I will go over the 3 MB with just a couple of listings" got me confused.

Sorry.

Claude

 
 lindajean
 
posted on February 22, 2006 06:07:21 PM new
Thanks for your input. Guess when I do the volume I do a couple means something more than it does to most. lol

A couple to me means 20 or 30 which would be a very slow day for listing. And with 8 to 10 pix in each I know I will go over. Plus many of these will go in store so they won't get deleted for a very long time. I currently use just over 400 MB on my Ipowerweb account.

I'm trying to figure out what my minimum Vendio bill will be for that volume. I know I will go to the $29.95 monthly plan next month (If I decide to use them).

And, from what I am reading it looks like if I go over even on the last day of my billing cycle they will charge me the additional rate for the month just past and then charge same rate for the next month. So, I could be paying double fees for several months. I'll have to watch that and be sure I don't accidentally go over a few days before the 21st of the month.
[ edited by lindajean on Feb 22, 2006 06:08 PM ]
 
 mikes4x4andtruckrepair
 
posted on February 23, 2006 08:44:24 AM new
lindajean - I'm not sure how the charge works if you go over. Personally I have never paid for the image hosting. As long as my monthly vendio bill for other charges exceeds the image hosting fee I am not charged for it and get it FREE.

What do you currently use to list your store items? Have you thought about using Vendio's other services like Sales Manager Merchandising Edition for doing your listing's? If you subscribe to SMME you also get to use SMPro for free. It's their ofline auction/store listing creation tool. I love it. I can make my listing's offline and then upload them in batch's. Properly set up it only takes a couple of seconds to create a listing with SMPro as long as you are not typing a novel for the description.


They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
 
 sanmar
 
posted on February 23, 2006 10:13:11 AM new
I'm sorry, but for the life of me I can't see any reason for that many pictures. That number would turn me off as a buyer. I don;t know what you are selling, but how many ways can you turn an item that needs 8+ pictures?

Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
 
 mikes4x4andtruckrepair
 
posted on February 23, 2006 10:25:59 AM new
sanmar - It depends on what you are selling. A listing with only one item may only require 1-4 pictures. But what if you are selling a stamp collection with 30 albums that has hundreds of thousands of stamps in the collection. I have had as many as 300 - 500 pictures in one listing before. In some cases just a couple of pictures just won't work unless you want to give away the lot.

Here's some examples of philatelic auctions with large numbers of photo's.

419 pictures 5666852016
547 pictures 5666852186
60 pictures 5668060738
200 pictures 5667744122

As you can see, in the case of stamp collections having hundreds of pictures is normal and is expected by the buyer. No pictures, no bids.


They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
 
 lindajean
 
posted on February 23, 2006 10:31:53 AM new
Sanmar,

I'm not selling single items. I'm selling records, postcards, jewelry and buttons in "lots" with multiple items in each listing.



 
 lindajean
 
posted on February 23, 2006 10:40:27 AM new
PS: I have cable modem and am never "put off" by photos.

The more the better if they are clear enough to see the item.

But then, I only purchase collectible and older items on Ebay so photos are very important.

 
 mikes4x4andtruckrepair
 
posted on February 23, 2006 10:52:51 AM new
lindajean - As a buyer I agree. The more pictures the better. The better I can judge the condition of a item the more I am likely to bid. Low number of pictures of low quality and 99% of the time I will not bid.


They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on February 23, 2006 11:38:06 AM new
A NIB item needs maybe two photos, but anything used needs considerably more. A typical camera/amplifier/etc. probably benefits from having 6-10 photos, carnival glass probably 3-4. It also cuts down the opportunity for a return if everything about the condition of an item is documented right in the auction.

 
 ladyjewels2000
 
posted on February 24, 2006 07:10:25 AM new
Lindajean - did you hear back?

Mikes4x4 - I use SMPro (love it as well) but don't have SMME and it's still free. I think it's free no matter what plan you are on. I really do love it - my friends say I could be a spokesperson for it!!!

 
 DrArcane
 
posted on February 24, 2006 07:35:01 AM new
"Here's some examples of philatelic auctions with large numbers of photo's.

419 pictures 5666852016"

Holy Crap!

I don't do stamps, but I looked at this one just to see what you were talking about. This auction has 419 pictures (by your count, I didn't verify it) and sold for $623.

By the time you consider out how much effort went into taking the pictures, sortng the stamps and setting up the auction itself, you have to wonder if it was worth it on a dollar per hour basis.

"547 pictures 5666852186"
Sold for $480

Even worse results, and by the same seller. Maybe it's eBay, maybe it's the stamp market, I dunno.

I have broadband, and that auction still took an outrageous time to load (although if I were interested in buying, I'd be willing to wait).

But obviously, these guys aren't paying per-picture or per-megabyte for image hosting. I don't understand why anyone would unless they are a very small seller. Regular web-hosts are just too cheap not to use for this sort of thing.

That's CRAZY!!!


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 lindajean
 
posted on February 24, 2006 08:10:54 AM new
Lady,

Yes, I heard back. If you go over the limit anytime during the month they automatically bump you to the next level.

You only pay for the highest level so you will only pay the difference between what was already billed and what you were bumped up to. Ex. If you were on the $9.95 plan and were bumped to the $19.95 plan they would bill you an additional $10.

The only way to get back down to the $9.95 is to manually delete photos and clear the recycle bin to bring your total back to where it was.

They said this would happen even if you only went over by a small percent and even if it only lasted for a day. Your cost for image hosting (if I understood it correctly) is based on highest usage for the month.

DrArcane...I agree about the hosting. I have plenty of space on my own site (I only pay $7.95 for 10 Gig) but I need the click to enloarge images so will have to see how this goes. I do think Vendio is robbing people on image space but if sales are better with this method than with the full size (due to loading time) then it will be worth it. I'll be posting some listings both ways to see for myself. I have a wonderful program I use on the other ID with a programmer who answers emails in hours (minutes sometimes) and who makes adjustments for Ebay changes within hours of the change. But, last time I sold "lots" of items I did better with Vendio than I did with either trying to get a collage view or putting many full size pix so I wanted to test it again to see.

I literally have thousands and thousands and thousands of items to sell in lots.
[ edited by lindajean on Feb 24, 2006 08:14 AM ]
 
 mikes4x4andtruckrepair
 
posted on February 24, 2006 09:10:11 AM new
Dr A - It's normal to have alot of photo's in a philatelic auction and it does not take that long to do the pictures. When I do sell stamp collections I can a 10 album collection and take 500-600 photo's in less than an hour. It's all about the speed, turn and snap, turn and snap. One of the large stamp dealers on ebay even uses his 10 year son as the photographer. After you do a couple you figure out short cuts to mass amounts of photo's in a short ammount of time. As for turning a profit, trust me, they are. They buy collections for next to nothing. They advertise in all the major stamp publications with add's for "cash fast for your collection". What they don't tell you in the add's is that it's not much cash. They are turning a very nice profit margin. I know I do when I sell collections.


They say your memory's the second thing to go, I just can't remember what the first thing is.
 
 
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