posted on March 3, 2006 04:34:57 AM new
I have about 5-6 framed albums that i usually try & sell at craft shows...well this past yr, no sales...so I'm liquidating. What stores would you reco to sell at (yahoo shops? Ebay? others?) for about 3 months? I wouldn't be a long-term seller.
BTW, they sell for $30 ea, including shipping.
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posted on March 3, 2006 09:32:43 AM new
It's a classic album (Bruce Springsteen, Sinatra) framed in an aluminum metal frame that you hang on your wall...for converation or art reasons.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000CFTB2/104-7965349-5508749?v=glance&n=284507
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posted on March 3, 2006 09:59:44 AM new
I don't know where you can sell them for $30! The link you gave was for the frame @ 9.99 and you can pick up vinyl album covers for a song..
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posted on March 3, 2006 10:35:42 AM new
Once again, it's an album already in a frame. The frames cost $10, the albums anywhere from $1 to $5.
Read my question again.
What store do you recommend?
BTW, 2 years ago I sold two vintage albums "framed" for $20 in AMAZON mktplc.
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posted on March 3, 2006 10:55:03 AM new
Read my answer - I don't know where. I did read your question - list them wherever you please - selling is another matter.
An ebay "store" will cost you $15/month and frankly 5 or 6 items will not be enough, probably, to cover your costs. You would probably do better listing them at auction on ebay. From what I've heard, yahoo shops don't have enough traffic to sell much of anything. If you did so well on Amazon, go back there.
If you truly want to liquidate, start them at auction at .99 and see what the market will bear.
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posted on March 3, 2006 12:17:31 PM new
You can list them on Yahoo Auction for 10 days,autorelist for 50 days and if it still does not sell,relist for 10 days and yahoo will auto relist for you for 50 days and it can goes on forever until Yahoo changes it policy.
or how about Overstock.com,it is not free .
/ lets all stop whining !! /
posted on March 24, 2006 08:43:51 AM new
See earlier messg: i sold them on AMZ. Actually I sold the album frame but I put an album in extra, just to get rid of it.
And I no longer teach Ebay workshop....I'm teaching PT at colleges now...thanks all...including the cynics.
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posted on March 24, 2006 09:45:40 AM new
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This page is about the ancient Greek school of philosophy. For information about the current understanding of the word cynicism, see cynicism. For information about the band, see Cynic (band).
The Cynics were an influential school of ancient philosophers. They rejected the social values of their time, often flouting conventions in shocking ways to prove their point. They challenged their listeners to get in touch with their "natural" animal side.
Their name is thought to be derived either from the building in Athens called Cynosarges, the earliest home of the school, or from the Greek word for a dog (kuon), in contemptuous allusion to the uncouth and aggressive manners adopted by the members of the school. Whichever of these explanations is correct, it is noticeable that the Cynics agreed in taking a dog as their common badge or symbol, as early as the tombstone of Diogenes of Sinope. From a popular conception of the intellectual characteristics of the school comes the modern sense of "cynic," implying a sneering disposition to disbelieve in the goodness of human motives and a contemptuous feeling of superiority.
The importance of the school's principles lies not only in their intrinsic value as an ethical system, but also in the fact that they form the link between Socrates and the Stoics, between the essentially Greek philosophy of the 4th century BC and a system of thought which has exercised a profound and far-reaching influence on medieval and modern ethics. From the time of Socrates in unbroken succession up to the reign of Hadrian, the school was represented by men of strong individuality. The leading earlier Cynics were Antisthenes, Diogenes of Sinope, Crates of Thebes, and Zeno; in the later Roman period, the chief names are Demetrius (the friend of Seneca), Oenomaus and Demonax. All these men adhered steadfastly to the principles laid down by Antisthenes.
Antisthenes was a pupil of Socrates, from whom he imbibed the fundamental ethical precept that virtue, not pleasure, is the end of existence. He was, therefore, in the forefront of that intellectual revolution in the course of which speculation ceased to move in the realms of the physical and focused itself upon human reason in its application to the practical conduct of life. "Virtue," says Socrates, "is knowledge": in the ultimate harmony of morality with reason is to be found the only true existence of man. Antisthenes adopted this principle in its most literal sense, and proceeded to explain "knowledge" in the narrowest terms of practical action and decision, excluding from the conception everything except the problem of individual will realizing itself in the sphere of ordinary existence. Just as in logic the inevitable result was the purest nominalism, so in ethics he was driven to individualism, to the denial of social and national relations, and to the exclusion of scientific study and of almost all that the Greeks understood by education. This individualism he and his followers carried to its logical conclusion. The ordinary pleasures of life were for them not merely negligible but positively harmful inasmuch as they interrupted the operation of the will. Wealth, popularity and power tend to dethrone the authority of reason and to pervert the soul from the natural to the artificial. Man exists for and in himself alone; his highest end is self-knowledge and self-realization in conformity with the dictates of his reason, apart altogether from the state and society. For this end, disrepute and poverty are advantageous, in so far as they drive back the man upon himself, increasing his self-control and purifying his intellect from the dross of the external. The good man (i.e. the wise man) wants nothing: like the gods, he is self-sufficing; "let men gain wisdomor buy a rope"; he is a citizen of the world, not of a particular country.
It is not surprising that the pioneers of such a system were criticized and ridiculed by their fellows, and this by no means unjustly. We learn that Diogenes and Crates sought to force their principles upon their fellows in an obtrusive, tactless manner. The very essence of their philosophy was the negation of the graces of social courtesy; it was impossible to "return to nature" in the midst of a society clothed in the accumulated artificiality of evolved convention without shocking the ingrained sensibilities of its members. Nor is it unjust to infer that the sense of opposition provoked some of the Cynics to an overweening display of superiority. At the same time, it is absurd to regard the eccentricities of a few as the characteristics of the school, let alone as a condemnation of the views which they held.
In logic Antisthenes was troubled by the problem of the One and the Many. A nominalist to the core, he held that definition and predication are either false or tautological. Ideas do not exist save for the consciousness which thinks them. "A horse," said Antisthenes, "I can see, but horsehood I cannot see." Definition is merely a circuitous method of stating an identity:
"a tree is a vegetable growth" is logically no more than "a tree is a tree."
Cynicism appears to have had a considerable vogue in Rome in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD. Demetrius and Demonax are highly praised by Seneca and Lucian respectively. It is probable that these later Cynics adapted themselves somewhat to the times in which they lived and avoided the crude extravagance of Diogenes and others. But they undoubtedly maintained the spirit of Antisthenes unimpaired and held an honourable place in Roman thought. This very popularity had the effect of attracting into their ranks charlatans of the worst type. Thus, in Rome also Cynicism was partly the butt of the satirist and partly the ideal of the thinker.
Disregarding all the accidental excrescences of the doctrine, Cynicism must be regarded as a most valuable development and as a real asset in the sum of ethical speculation. With all its defective psychology, its barren logic, its immature technique, it emphasized two great and necessary truths, firstly, the absolute responsibility of the individual as the moral unit, and, secondly, the autocracy of the will. These two principles are sufficient ground for our gratitude to these "athletes of righteousness" (as Epictetus calls them). Furthermore they are profoundly important as the precursors of Stoicism. The closeness of the connection is illustrated by Juvenal's epigram that a Cynic differed from a Stoic only by his cloak. Zeno was a pupil of Crates, from whom he learned the moral worth of self-control and indifference to sensual indulgence.
Finally it is necessary to point out two flaws in the Cynic philosophy. In the first place, the content of the word "knowledge" is never properly developed. "Virtue is knowledge"; knowledge of what? and how is that knowledge related to the will? These questions were never properly answered by them. Secondly they fell into the natural error of emphasizing the purely animal side of the "nature" that was their ethical criterion. Avoiding the artificial restraints of civilization, they were prone to fall back into animalism pure and simple. Many of them upheld the principle of community of wives (see Diogenes Laėrtius vi. II); some of them are said to have outraged the dictates of public decency. It was left to the Stoics to separate the wheat from the chaff, and to assign to the words "knowledge" and "nature" a saner and more comprehensive meaning.
posted on March 24, 2006 04:47:19 PM new
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