posted on June 18, 2006 06:09:31 PM new
Anyone know if it's a brand name or is it a style or what exactly? I was always under the impression it just referred to applied flowers, fancy swags, etc. sometimes in gesso material that you see on lots of different things like mirrors, baskets, frames, etc.
Had an auction pulled for keyword spamming for using the word in my description as I have done before by the way without any problems. I'm embarassed and I admit to being a little ticked when after doing a search and see flowers simply painted on mirror called Barbola and that seems to be OK. Any thoughts??
posted on June 18, 2006 06:43:57 PM new
As far as I know, Barbola is a technique, not a brand name at all. Kinda like gesso etc. It's doubtful that an eBay cop would know what it was, however. I see plenty of both active and completed listings -- some of which are Barbola, and some that decidedly are not. I believe I would appeal that if I were you.
posted on June 18, 2006 06:48:57 PM new
I've always considered Barbola a style. As you said, real barbola has stylized flowers or swags in gesso, most certainly does not apply to flowers painted on glass. I am not aware of anyone copy-writng the name. Doubt that they could considering that the term has been used for over a hundred years.
posted on June 18, 2006 06:49:57 PM new
One of the things I like best about Vendio is learning new things. When I see a term I don't know I will Google it. Got this link on Barbola which sure makes it sound like a technique and not a brand name. Maybe someone has registered it or maybe you were reported by a competitor trying to sabotage your listings.
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posted on June 18, 2006 07:07:43 PM new
Thanks. Technique was the word I was trying to get off the tip of my tongue. It's so embarassing that they said they informed the bidders why it's canceled and it sure implies that my descriptions are in question. I'm just furious at that.
I have to believe it was some competitor's doing but I don't understand that kind of thought process. I replied to the email sent by eBay informing me of the canceled auction but I doubt I'll get anything but a canned response if that even. Is there a secret place to appeal? Looked all through the site map and don't see anything that applies. Thanks for your help.
posted on June 18, 2006 07:24:14 PM new
I can never find anything on their site map ... well, at least not when I want it. Try Live Help -- and the only place I can find THAT is on a Sell Your Item page.
Did you all know that they inform the bidders of reason listing was pulled?? I didn't.
posted on June 18, 2006 07:36:39 PM new
Went back to read the email from eBay again. It says they have "notified ebay users associated with the transaction (my bidders) that it has been canceled".
I read more into it in my mini rage than was there I guess, sorry. Still it isn't right for them to have done this in this case at least. Thanks for your help on appeal. I never have used live help, but now is a good time to give it a try. Thanks again.
posted on June 18, 2006 08:40:33 PM new
I'd try listing it again and wouldn't capitalize barbola. Or put "barbola technique" in the title if there's room.
posted on June 19, 2006 09:20:20 AM new
Just a follow-up. Live help was quick to look into the problem. They checked out a currently running auction I brought to their attention as an example which really is in total misuse of the word and say they can see and understand my frustration. However, as would be expected, they can't do anything about it.
They did link me to the appeal process even going the extra mile to have that link set up with all the boxes already chosen and put me right at the point of typing into in the body of the email to the Trust & Safety Dept.
I've done that now and although it's not going to "unring the bell" so to speak, at least I am hoping that they will see that they're awfully quick to pull the plug without being familiar with the terminology.
More than anything, It's upsetting that when they do this and send that email notice to the current bidders on an item saying ebay pulled the auction, it sends a big question mark along with it that would make some bidders question a possible problem with that seller's integrity. In cases where spamming has occurred, that's a good thing but in cases where it has not, it's undeserved harm to the seller.
