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posted on August 7, 2006 08:31:25 PM
Where does ebay make theiir money on sales originating in China and listed on the US site? I found over 4000 Chinese listings for one particular type item. They host additional photos themselves but do use the gallery so maybe they pay 35 cents for that but if the listings are free, where does Ebay make a profit? Few if anything sells even for the under $1.00 starting bids because of the very high shipping charges.
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sparkz
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posted on August 7, 2006 08:54:39 PM
They probbly aren't interested in making money just yet. They're trying to develop the Chinese market and volume. When the time comes, those Chinese will get blindsided with a slug of fees.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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roadsmith
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posted on August 7, 2006 09:53:24 PM
Yep, just the way they did with us.
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sparkz
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posted on August 7, 2006 10:13:34 PM
And at least 5000 of them will wind up over here on the EO complaining in Chinese and broken English about what a bunch of money hungry, greedy and unfair bunch of people Ebay has on it staff.
If Murphy's law is correct, everything East of the San Andreas Fault will slide into the Atlantic
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posted on August 7, 2006 11:24:10 PM
Probably but right now they just keep on relisting and relisting the same items over and over again if they do not sell and few items do get bids. If Ebay starts charging them,I suspect they will lose most of the Chinese sellers.
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twig125silver
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posted on August 7, 2006 11:33:55 PM
That would be a real shame!
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irked
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posted on August 7, 2006 11:55:31 PM
Twig I hope that was a statement in jest. LOL I personally think the Chinese sellers are making Chibay having the problems they have today--Over crowded cheap crap bloated and constipated. They should take some of their feelax and go over latrinebay with fine tooth combay, and call us in the morning.
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cblev65252
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posted on August 8, 2006 04:53:56 AM
Hey, the Chinese have FREE stores, pay no listing fees or FVFs, FREE gallery, FREE listing designer. WE'RE making up for that with higher store fees here.
http://pages.ebay.com.sg/help/sell/storefees.html
Cheryl
[ edited by cblev65252 on Aug 8, 2006 04:56 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on August 8, 2006 06:07:18 AM
I am glad I don't sell new items and have to compete with them! Maybe Meg and Bill should take a long look at the site issues - pretty sure that it is the Chinese listings and NOT the store listings that are cluttering the site. I doubt that they turn over every 14 days and even if they did, they would not bring revenue. Basically, it looks like they have sacrificed the US site on the long shot that China will pan out for them.
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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store
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hwahwa
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posted on August 8, 2006 06:12:44 AM
Chinese now have money to collect antiques,and they want their own antiques BACK!
You figure WWII,Communist Revolution,Cultural Revolution have destroyed many of their antiques ,so they are going overseas to find them.
Chinese collectors,Chinese dealers from China and Hong Kong and UK dealers are looking on Ebay USA for authentic Chinese antiques,they know what they are looking for and willing to pay,so if you have a nice piece of antique especially porcelain,describe it well so they will find it.
In China,land antique auctions sell the better antiques at an open bid of US$2000(Which comes to Chinese $16,000).
I know a retired dealer who shipped all the stuff she cant sell for past 36 years into China to be sold in those auctions and she received inquires from Chinese and European dealers willing to come to her house to view her items.The European dealers are having problem finding Chinese antiques in their own country.
So traffic goes both ways,they sell us junks and we sell them the real thing.
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buyhigh
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posted on August 8, 2006 06:54:18 AM
But are they really selling us their junk? I find pages and pages of new stuff all the same and sold by many different dealers. They must be turning out this stuff by the thousands in their factories. I don't see too many sales.
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mikes4x4andtruckrepair
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posted on August 8, 2006 02:07:47 PM
Makes you wish you could register in Singapore dosen't it. Fee free. I might have to play around with the registration page later and see if there's some way to register on the ebay.com.sg site.
 1 out of 4 people are mentally unbalanced. Take a look at your 3 closest friends. If they seem alright, you're the one! - Kyle Stubbins, CMS
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cblev65252
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posted on August 8, 2006 02:09:37 PM
mike - You can register there. However, your items will not show up on the U.S. site.
Cheryl
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twig125silver
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posted on August 8, 2006 03:10:23 PM
irked- Yes, that was an attempt at sarcasm!
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buyhigh
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posted on August 8, 2006 05:13:49 PM
You certain the Chinese pay fees? I saw one auction where the Chinese seller asked that anyone who bid on the item to please pay because he had to pay Ebay a listing fee and if they were a non paying bidder, he still would have to pay that fee and that was not fair to him.
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posted on August 8, 2006 05:15:06 PM
sellers in Singapore pay no fees? Are you certain?
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cblev65252
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posted on August 8, 2006 05:21:46 PM
buyhigh
China pays no STORE fees. What we pay $15 a month for, they pay nothing. So, while eBay is raising store fees 250 - 500%, the Chinese still enjoy having a store for FREE.
Edited to add: The subscription price, the insertion fees, the FVF fees, gallery fees, etc. in eBay stores is FREE to China. They still pay auction fees.
Cheryl
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hwahwa
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posted on August 8, 2006 05:39:02 PM
Chinese sellers listing on US Ebay site pay the same fee as we do.
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agitprop
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posted on August 8, 2006 06:53:05 PM
It's about time that eBay sellers in the USA & Canada woke up to the fact that they are actively subsidizing their Chinese competitors. The recent eBay fee hikes are just the beginning as shareholders expect eBay's revenues to keep growing even though sales may be declining. The days of triple-digit annual growth are long gone and even double-digit quarterly growth might be difficult to maintain.
Home of the best eBay auction fee & PayPal calculators: http://auctionfeecalculator.com
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sthoemke
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posted on August 8, 2006 06:54:37 PM
Sellers in Singapore pay no fees. US sellers can list there too for free, but don't expect too many sales.
http://www.ebay.com.sg/
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bcpostcards
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posted on August 8, 2006 07:08:14 PM
It's about time that eBay sellers in the USA & Canada woke up to the fact that they are actively subsidizing their Chinese competitors.
No question about that. I hate the thought too, but ebay has shown us sellers several times, in several ways, that they could care less about how we are affected. Like almost any big corporation you could care to name, the only thing that matters is keeping the share-holders happy.
USA population = approx. 370 million...a certain number are potential sellers.
China population = approx. 1.5 billion.
Hmm, which group of people offers more potential sellers/fee payers?
edited to fix spelling...I care.
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buyhigh
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posted on August 8, 2006 07:49:13 PM
Singapore is NOT China. It is a separate country with a mixed populations of Malaysians and ethnic Chinese. Should think they they pay the same fees as we do along with Japanese who list on the US site.
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