NEGLUS
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posted on January 19, 2007 05:14:22 PM
Sorry to keep doing this but I think it really helps keyword searches to identify the dogs if I can...
are these Border Collies..or ???
Thanks in advance!
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birgittaw
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posted on January 19, 2007 05:18:26 PM
Do look like border collies -- at least to me.
Along that same vein, I had a huge hand enhanced old photograph, probably turn of the century, of an English Setter, except I wasn't sure -- about the dog, not the age. Someone came into my booth and said that was indeed the way the breed looked 100 years ago. Helped date the piece and I learned something about breeds' evolving over time.
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twig125silver
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posted on January 19, 2007 07:05:12 PM
I believe they are a smooth collie (shorter hair). Lassie was a rough collie (long hair).
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buyhigh
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posted on January 19, 2007 08:24:46 PM
Not smooth collie. They have a very smooth coat like a boxer or a dane would have. These look like plain old tri-color farm collies before the "fancy" got a hold of them and started breeding them with extremely heavy coats for the show ring. Believe border collies are smaller and this pair seem to have long legs like a regular collie
buyhigh
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pixiamom
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posted on January 19, 2007 09:08:38 PM
Lassie's G-G-G-G-GFather
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KarenMx
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posted on January 19, 2007 10:45:10 PM
Smooth collies don't have the same coats as Boxers and Danes--it's short and thick, not slick--but these dogs aren't smooth collies. These *may* be border collies, but I suspect they're "farm collies" which weren't purebred and didn't necessarily have collies in their immediate background (farmers bred whatever worked to whatever worked--sheepdog, bird dog, you name it; the full white collar 'n white legs pattern is genetically very strong). Collies (Lassie-type, either smooth or rough coated) haven't had heads like these dogs' in more than 100 years--the parallel planes scream "not a collie" and the one on the left is very coarse and hound-y.
It's a pretty card, whatever the dogs are. You'd probably be safe listing it with a question mark ("Border collie? old collie?" . The purists in either breed may decide to correct you, but the average pet owner who collects such things likely won't care.
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neglus
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posted on January 20, 2007 08:21:52 AM
Thanks all! I think I will go with "Farm Dog Border Collie" or something like that. The card dates from around 1910. I appreciate the expertise.
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pixiamom
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posted on January 21, 2007 08:06:06 AM
Neglus and I can't decide if these are Boston Terriers. Any experts?
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tomwiii
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posted on January 21, 2007 08:13:40 AM
Yikes!
Ralphie notes that the COLLARS are a true fashion "faux-paws", ntm, that he wouldn't be caught deceased in the same photo with two clowns who would ACTUALLY wear such goofy headwear...
[ edited by tomwiii on Jan 21, 2007 08:14 AM ]
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neglus
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posted on January 21, 2007 08:48:06 AM
I think they look like Pit Bull Terriers more than Bostons
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KarenMx
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posted on January 21, 2007 09:54:20 AM
Definitely Bostons.
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pixiamom
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posted on January 21, 2007 05:07:49 PM
Thanks, Karen - I was hoping they were!
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