niel35
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posted on September 19, 2007 09:21:59 PM new
I have some copies of collectible Christmas dolls used for decorating. Can I put in the title "like" or "similar" to the manufacturer of that doll. Or should I not refer to the mfr at all??? It would probably be similar to listing a handbag similar to Coach and saying "like Coach" or "similar to Coach". What are the rules on this. TIA
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NEGLUS
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posted on September 20, 2007 01:35:18 AM new
You can't use "like" or the name of the other maker because of key word spamming
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amber
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posted on September 20, 2007 03:57:39 AM new
I have never found a word that describes something that is like something else on eBay without it getting thrown off. I sell some yarn that is made by the same manufacturer, but sold under different labels in the US and Canada. I have tried to mention both label names but it's impossible, eBay won't have it. "like" "similar" "same as" all get booted off.I am sure it would be the same with the dolls, or anything else.
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NEGLUS
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posted on September 20, 2007 04:34:25 AM new
Amber, if you think your comparison will help sell your item without misleading you could type up a blurb in IRFAN or a photo editor and save it as an image file and then add it to your description. Words in image files are not picked up by search and would not be considered as key word spamming.
Have you just tried stating something like: "Wooly Lamb Wool Co labels this yarn RED YARN in Canada and BLUE YARN in the US"
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photosensitive
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posted on September 20, 2007 05:04:04 AM new
I collect a type of vintage made-in-Japan figurine that is always described as "Hummel like". A few of them are direct copies of Hummel designs so you know the company was tying to ride the coat tales of the popular German company. In the subject I collect however there are lots of their figures that are nothing like Hummel. I am sure I have seen all of them described as "Hummel like" on eBay although I call my figures "Hummel wannabes". Would eBay flag "wannabes"? How about adding "esk" to the end of the brand? Would they catch something like "Hummelesk"?
Another question about the dolls: Is it possible that the manufacturer licensed the use of the brand or is it clearly an unauthorized knockoff?
I don't like the rampant key word spamming on eBay but if the description is accurate and it is not an attempt to deceive I don't think that kind of description should be considered key word spamming... VeRO maybe but not key word.
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Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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pixiamom
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posted on September 20, 2007 05:22:20 AM new
Photo has some good suggestions. If you append a suffix to the brand-name, it won't be picked up in a keyword search or by the VERO police.
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niel35
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posted on September 20, 2007 07:09:09 AM new
Photo, I doubt if they licensed these dolls to someone else. I won't mention the name in my listing. thanks for your advice everybody. If you have any other suggestions, please let me know
neva
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amber
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posted on September 20, 2007 07:32:29 AM new
neglus: I haven't tried the photo editor or IRFAN. I have tried the blurb about it being the same yarn sold in US and Canada under different labels, auctions still cancelled. I am now very wary about even trying anything else. One thing I did do was remove the labels from some, and could legitimately sell them calling them the other label. I even called the factory that made the yarn and was assured that is what the exact same yarn, but eBay was unrelenting, all auctions cancelled.
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roadsmith
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posted on September 20, 2007 07:46:32 AM new
I wonder if "Hummelesk" would get by, but "Hummelesque" wouldn't. Ebay must have many of these wanna-be words and suffixes flagged.
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annekila
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posted on September 20, 2007 08:03:04 AM new
I had an auction pulled because of the phrase "Like new..never used". It was a vintage item that had never been used...but being 30 years old and without a box..it wasn't "new". The ebay rep told me that I could either put "used" or "new". I told him that there are over 14,000 auctions with the the words "like new" in the heading. He said that mine had been reported....
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pixiamom
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posted on September 20, 2007 08:08:58 AM new
Amber, it sounds like someone is following your auctions and reporting you. I'd be very careful.
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kozersky
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posted on September 20, 2007 08:10:06 AM new
Amber, here is a suggestion. Within a separate paragraph - This yarn manufactured by xxxxx. Xxxxx, located in bbbb, ddd, is a well known manufacturer of yarn sold in both Canada and the USA under various brand names.
This would be a factual presentation of information, regarding the yarn manufacturer, and their brands. And, should meet the requirements of ebay policy.
ebay policy states the following:
"The searchable text sellers place in listings must be directly relevant to the item being sold." (which your paragraph would be)
"Do not include any brand names or company logos in listings other than the specific brand name used by the company that manufactured or produced the item being listed." (your paragraph would meet this requirement)
Bill K-
http://www.kozersky.com
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toolhound
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posted on September 20, 2007 09:44:37 AM new
I don't know if this would help you but with tools it works. If I have a quality wrench set say from Proto and would like them to show up in a search for snap-on . I add a junk snap-on socket or beat up screwdriver to the auction. Then I title it "Proto Wrench set + snap-on"
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amber
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posted on September 20, 2007 09:51:04 AM new
It is the name of the yarn that I need to list. I am quite sure someone reported me, because eBay also said I couldn't say it was baby yarn in the title, even though on the website it says it is great for babies, it is not in the title on the label. I am quite sure eBay didn't know that!
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photosensitive
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posted on September 20, 2007 10:53:51 AM new
What about third party items that are made specifically to work with one brand. I buy photographic accessories for my husband and the auction lists the brand of camera the accessory work with. If not there would be no way to get the right one.
Also seems "Baby" in the context of the yarn would be descriptive of the use and not a brand identifier.
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Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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amber
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posted on September 20, 2007 11:44:52 AM new
photosensative: It seems that the problem was I called it "baby yarn" in my title, I can add to my description that it is good for babies, in fact, as far as I am concerned, that is about the only thing it is used for. Obviously another seller of the yarn getting bent out of shape. We happen to live about 30 miles from the factory that makes it, and I have been going there for 30 years, so I do know a bit about it.
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tonimar1
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posted on September 20, 2007 12:19:47 PM new
When I sell my dolls that are like Sweet Sue in my title I put 1950s Sweet Sue type Body, I use the word type and had no problems.
toni
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neglus
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posted on September 20, 2007 12:56:53 PM new
This is what I meant by adding an image to your description (this isn't very well done but you get the idea). Perhaps you should run it by eBay to make sure it's ok but I am pretty sure they are taking exception to the keyword spamming and that does not happen with images. You don't get the benefit of having the other brand name come up in search though.:
Or you could fancier and do something like this:
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pixiamom
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posted on September 20, 2007 01:35:03 PM new
I think eBay WOULD take exception to the other brand name being used whether it's searchable or not. To play Devil's Advocate: a company can invest a lot of money to build its brand. If people are willing to spend more money on Brand A yarn than on identical yarn with a Brand B label, then Brand A definitely has built up value for it's brand name. To use it to sell Brand B yarn might be construed as a bit unfair. I don't doubt they are the very same yarn. I like Bill's approach, educate your buyers that quality yarns are sold under different labels.
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