tomwiii
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posted on January 28, 2008 07:02:04 PM
(talk about a FREUDIAN SLIP? I meant PMC's and NOT PMS's 
Yeah!
My first Private Mailing Cards
But, I know nada about FLOWERS?
And, I wonder what was in the BLANK ovals?
THANKS, ALL!
Tom & Ralphie
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NEGLUS
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posted on January 28, 2008 07:07:57 PM
I think the first is hibiscus, the second poppy - but what is the cut out oval for? I don't think I've ever seen that! DO you see something there if you hold it to light?
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sthoemke
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posted on January 28, 2008 07:09:20 PM
The card date between 1898-1901.
The circle cut-outs are a mystery!
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http://ezinearticles.com/?Collecting-Postcards-Part-2---Private-Mailing-Cards&id=259828
The inventor of the first private postcard in the United States was J. P. Carlton of Philadelphia, who applied for a patent on Dec. 17, 1861. He then sold his patent to H. L. Lipman, who printed postcards with a decorated border and marked "Lipman's Postal Cards".
In America the United States Postal Service published and printed its first postal cards in 1873. They were sold for 1 cent, while privately produced cards needed a two cent stamp, the same as a letter. For that reason, few postcards were produced privately because the privately printed postcards cost more to mail.
However, on May 19, 1898, Congress passed the Private Mailing Card Act which allowed private printers and publishers to produce postcards. The Act required that private publishers print the message Private Mailing Cards, Authorized by Act of Congress on May 19, 1898 on the backs of their cards. Postage required was now a 1 cent stamp.
Like Postal Cards, the Private Mailing Cards allowed only address information on the backs of the card. Many pictorial private mailing cards compensated by leaving a small blank area along an edge for the sender to write a few words to the recipient. Pictorial "Private Mailing Cards" are very rare today.
Postal Card quickly became a term reserved to cards printed by the Post Office. Privately printed cards which required stamps for posting were called "Private Mailing Cards" and later called a "Post Card". Postal Card or Postal is still a term most appropriately applied to official United States postal stationery.
In 1901 the practice of "Private Mailing Cards" was rescinded and all privately produced cards were printed using the words "Post Card" printed on the undivided backs.
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pixiamom
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posted on January 28, 2008 07:12:13 PM
I've seen similar home-made versions where they inserted a photograph. Is there anyway to insert a photo? I've only had luck selling specific varieties of flowers make sure you mention the species in the title. I haven't found PMC's collectible in their own right, it helps date the card. Unless it has an unusual stamp or postmark, it's the front that sells the card.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 28, 2008 07:14:44 PM
Oi!
I'm BRAINDEAD!
The VERY KIND & EXTREMELY GENEROUS Lady Lurker sent me these & she already explained to me about the OVAL, but, I forgot!
These were produced by a PHOTOGRAPHY STUDIO!
He gave them to his customers, and they could slip a small pic in there, showing thru the oval cut-out!
Pretty nifty for 19th century, huh?
Ralphie & Mr.MushMind
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roadsmith
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posted on January 28, 2008 08:50:40 PM
I too vote for hibiscus and poppy. Neat cards!
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tomwiii
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posted on January 30, 2008 05:45:29 PM
Ah...Err...Ah...A'hem...
Dumb question: which is the POPPY and which...?
THANKS ALL!
Tom & Ralphie
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mcjane
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posted on January 30, 2008 06:03:41 PM
The bottom one is the Poppy.
Let me put it a better way. The first one is the Hibiscus & the second one is the Poppy.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 30, 2008 06:59:43 PM
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irked
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posted on January 30, 2008 09:43:48 PM
I believe the first one is a Pansy not hibiscus. Hibiscus have tall stamens ( center part.
Edited to add my links didn't work so copy and paste
Go here to see images of pansies
http://www.tmacnurseries.com/images/product/thumb/pansy%20delta%20red%20001.jpg
http://www.junkertoons.com/images/Red-Hibiscus.jpg
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 I married my wife for her looks, but Not the one she gives me lately!
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NEGLUS
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posted on January 31, 2008 04:56:32 AM
irked - that's the first all red pansy I have ever seen and the leaves are totally wrong.
I am pretty sure that that flower is a stylized (as in artistic license) hibiscus. Perhaps those Victorians thought that those big protruding stamens were too nasty to illustrate accurately. Besides, when you look at them straight on, the stamen is not as pronounced as from the side:
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photosensitive
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posted on January 31, 2008 08:12:22 AM
The second card it certainly a poppy but the first does not look like an hibiscus to me. There is another flower name that is trying to surface in my head but not succeeding yet.
tomwiii I suggest emphasizing the "photo holder" aspect of the card.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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tomwiii
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posted on January 31, 2008 09:05:18 AM
THANKS, EVERYBODY!
Although Ralphie was confused by:
"Perhaps those Victorians thought that those big protruding stamens were too nasty to illustrate accurately."...
...although I held my hand over his innocent eyes!
Tom & Ralphie
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pixiamom
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posted on January 31, 2008 02:28:04 PM
Look what I found in the cards I'm listing today.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 31, 2008 06:55:21 PM
Photo:
You said:
"The second card it certainly a poppy but the first does not look like an hibiscus to me. There is another flower name that is trying to surface in my head but not succeeding yet."
The VERY KIND LADY who sent me these believes the flower is a:
Nasturshum
Is that what you were trying to think of?
Tom & Ralphie
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mcjane
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posted on January 31, 2008 07:33:50 PM
Tom & Ralphie while the first picture looks like a Nasturtium it's not, the leaves are very different on a Nasturtium.
The first picture is a Nasturtium & the second is a Hibiscus. The leaves tell all.
I'm sure it's a Hibiscus.
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tomwiii
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posted on January 31, 2008 07:39:15 PM
Oi!
NOW, we're really confused!
I just listed NUMBER TWO as a POPPY!
Oi!
?????????
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photosensitive
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posted on January 31, 2008 07:41:18 PM
Tomwiii, just moments ago I was giving Lacy her evening pills and I flashed on the name I was looking for "nastursham"! I rushed down the stairs and pulled up eBay Outlook to read your post. How can I not believe in clairvoyance!
Is that a window to put a photograph in the pier card with a little door? Cool! Also half way between the lighthouse and the large pavilion there is a little building with a pointed roof. That is exactly the profile I look for. Can you see if there is any thing mounted on the top? If so I would like to know when you list it.
Well I see the post about the nastursham leaves but I still say the flower does not look like a hibiscus.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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tomwiii
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posted on January 31, 2008 07:44:54 PM
photo:
THAT card is PIXIAMOM's -- wish it WERE mine!
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photosensitive
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posted on January 31, 2008 08:21:57 PM
Sorry Tom, I see it is Pixiamom's. I'll check eBay to see if she lists it.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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pixiamom
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posted on January 31, 2008 09:07:51 PM
Photo, I'll list it tomorrow in my Vendio store for a reduced price
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mcjane
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posted on January 31, 2008 09:10:30 PM
Tom, didn't mean to confuse you.
YOUR second postcard IS a Poppy.
What I meant was MY two pictures I posted.
The first is a Nasturtium, note the very destinctive leaves. MY second picture is a Hibiscus. Just wanted to show you the difference. I would say your first postcard is a Hibiscus. Remember your card is a painting & artists take poetic license & sometimes change things, like the short staymen for instance, because it looks better in the painting.
But, to be sure I will keep looking.
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mcjane
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posted on January 31, 2008 09:16:50 PM
How about this Hibiscus, a little more like your PC. Remember there are many different varieties.
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pasttimes
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posted on February 1, 2008 02:56:56 AM
The flower is Hibiscus and the oval was for a photo.
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photosensitive
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posted on February 1, 2008 04:44:05 AM
Pixiamom, Thanks! I bookmarked your store and will check it later today.
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Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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photosensitive
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posted on February 1, 2008 07:08:42 AM
Tomwiii, Your great photo-frame cards sent me to my file of postcards looking for some I remembered. Have not looked through this box for awhile so was happy to find 3 flower cards with the original photographs. The text is applied glitter. Two of the photographs are paper prints and one is a tintype. I know I have at least one more which is a little boy's portrait on a Christmas theme card.
Well I have known for some time that I am afflicted with "Google Addiction." After I found the postcards I ran the patent number on one of mine in Google Patent Search and found one of the patents for the "Photographic Mailing Card". It explains why I could not see how to add or remove photographs from my cards. There was adhesive on the card. Now I need to get back to the work I should have been doing.
Also need to stop checking Pixiamom's store every few minutes.
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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photosensitive
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posted on February 1, 2008 04:14:16 PM
Yoo Hoo! Pixieamom, I checked your store several times today. Didn't find the Yarnmouth card. Did I miss it?
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“The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.”
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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pixiamom
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posted on February 1, 2008 04:31:24 PM
It's pretty hard to find: Hope this will take you there, photo:
http://shop.vendio.com/pixiamom/category/100078/
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photosensitive
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posted on February 1, 2008 06:28:07 PM
Pixiamom, Thanks I just made the purchase. Not sure why I couldn't find it.
Tomwiii, Sorry to hijack your thread.
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