posted on March 2, 2008 09:42:46 AM new
Everytime you go to one of E-Bay message boards all you see is Sellers wanting to continue the boycott, why don't they just quit and get the heck off E-Bay and stay off. I don't think these people sold much anyway or they would have had better things to do.
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posted on March 2, 2008 10:12:54 AM new
I did get an eBay catalogue yesterday, with page after page of "Sellers We Love" (those with near-perfect DSRs, natch). Almost without exception these are folks who sell high-end goods, so they are highly motivated to suck up to customer demands, reasonable or otherwise. The catalogue states explicitly: These sellers have earned our stamp of approval.
That catalogue might have motivated some of the kvetching. I found it made a nice solid *thunk* when it hit the wastebasket.
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"If these changes cause sellers to move their business away from our sites or otherwise fail to improve gross merchandise volume or the number of successful listings, our operating results and profitability will be harmed," eBay said.
Elsewhere eBay is saying the boycott had no effect. This seems to say otherwise.
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[ edited by fluffythewondercat on Mar 2, 2008 11:12 AM ]
posted on March 2, 2008 11:09:24 AM new
It is the economy,those who are still bidding are the ones who own their homes way back and feel secure of their jobs.
Those in the midwest and northeeast have to deal with high heating bills.
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Lets all stop whining !
posted on March 2, 2008 04:12:03 PM new
I would like to know where would the sellers move to?
I have tried Rubylane,I am now selling on Overstock,AMZN,Half.com,Yahoo besides Ebay and Ebay is still the best place to sell!
Numbers dont lie,my sell through rate is the best on Ebay.
I have not sold one single copy of book on AMZN for months!
Every now and then,some seller will come and brag-I just have my own website,I am doing well,I am leaving Ebay,I dont need Ebay,bla bla bla .
Just give it 6 months and they all go back to Ebay.
It is very hard for individual sellers to compete with Ebay and its vast array of goods,every minute,every second of the day,some one is dishing up something new,something different,never stale!
posted on March 2, 2008 05:43:43 PM new
Be sure and read this one, too, including the comments.
(In my experience, despite disclaimers to the contrary, SeekingAlpha.com will publish just about anything you submit to them. So don't put too much credence in what this guy says.)
posted on March 2, 2008 06:46:01 PM new
"The typical user lists between 24.99-49.99 and $50.00-199.99 which was $1.20 and $2.40. Additionally, eBay has many "extras" that can be added to enhance the visibility of one's auctions. These include extra photos, at .15 per photo, and double category listings, which doubles all the fees including extras, which can double the highest listing fee of $4.80 to 9.60, and all the extra photos, gallery fees, highlight, or even bold lettering."
I don't think the typical user spends between $5 and $10 to list each item on ebay. I don't even think that is is over $25...I wonder what it is, but I am sure it is MUCH less.
posted on March 3, 2008 06:57:08 AM new
Great articles, Fluffy. I've often said that the way to get to a company is not necessarily through boycott (although that really helps), but through it's stock holders and board of directors. The board of directors has to do what is in the best interest of the stock holders. Customers, employees, etc. are second on the list.
I once worked for the CEO of a local manufacturing company. I prepared board materials and typed the minutes. When offers were made to buy the company by two separate automotive companies I had to keep my mouth shut about it. One offer was for an amazing amount of money and would cause the layoff of hundreds of employees. The other offer wasn't for as much money, but it allowed for almost all employees to stay (the CEO and other top execs, including me, would lose their jobs). Since the first offer would have made the stock holders the most money, that's the offer they were going to go with. There was very little concern for the employees, and their families.
We're those "employees" although we're technically customers. Ebay will do what it will to earn the stockholders (most of whom are top Ebay execs) the most money with little regard for us. We're more fortunate than the employees at US&B. It's not as done a deal as US&B. We have choices.
My point is that sometimes you have to go directly to where the money goes and that's the stockholders and BOD. A buyer boycott goes much further than a seller boycott, IMHO. The great thing is that most sellers are also buyers.
My Ebay bill, which is normally close to $200 by this time, is only a bit over $30. Take that and times it by the number of sellers who boycotted. Ebay won't know the true effect of the boycott until after everyone's monthly invoice is tabulated. I suspect it's a lot more money than they'll ever tell.
posted on March 3, 2008 07:39:42 AM new
I am transitioning to OLA, as it is a learning experience for me, I do not have many listing up yet.
I have about a dozen listings on eBaY right now rather than my typical pre-increase 40-60.
I have 7 listings on OLA right now, one has a bid.
I sold two items last week on OLA so I have paid my fees for six months of use ($8 a month), awaiting to see if the sellers that have moved there are also buyers before I try ecrater, etc. I'm an old time eBaYer and would really like to keep my life simple rather than be on a gazillion sites. Looking at only a two week history so far, online auction might be the place for me.
posted on March 3, 2008 02:02:16 PM newthere are also buyers before I try ecrater, etc. I'm an old time eBaYer and would really like to keep my life simple rather than be on a gazillion sites.
On the surface, your logic seems sound. However in reality it's flawed. One thing about opening an ecrater store is once you put your listing up, it's there to stay. There is nothing else for you to do except wait for the sales, or remove the item if it sells some where else. It is about as low maintanence as it could possibly be.
When I set my store up, it did take a good month to place all of my items on it (working about an hour or two a day), along with setting payment options and the like. But once I was done, the only time I even go to the site is when I have a sale, need to remove an item or place a new item. I now never spend more than a few moments a week there.
posted on March 3, 2008 03:19:35 PM new
I have to agree with Stone. eCrater is so simple, it's crazy. I also discovered (through eCrater) how great Google payments are. They do a complete security check on someone's credit card BEFORE they release the funds for shipping. Unlike PayPal who doesn't check anything and you're left holding the bag when the credit card turns out to be stolen.
posted on March 3, 2008 04:16:11 PM new
I registered with ecrater a few weeks ago but chose to suffer through the learning process at OLA.
eCrater sounds like a win, however, I'm unsure as what to list on which site.
Same items on each if I have multiples is a no-brainer but what do you recommend for the single items?
Do you list the same item in multiple places and then take them off of the unsold sites?
tia
posted on March 3, 2008 04:41:02 PM new
Do you list the same item in multiple places and then take them off of the unsold sites?
tia
I would, it is VERY DOUBTFUL that you would sell the same item within a short time frame. When I used to list on ebay, I still had the item listed on yahoo and bidville, and would cancel it on whichever site I needed to when I got a bid.
Ecrater is simple and no maintenance. I have had approximately $450.00 in sales this year so far on that site. That is sales that ebay isn't getting (not that they care). And google check-out is fantastic --- love it!
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posted on March 3, 2008 04:46:53 PM new
Great article. Even if the "boycott" did not cripple Ebay, most people are now admitting that it did do some damage and they are taking notice.
It is not the price hike alone, but all of the other bulls*i*. There are so many rules and loopholes I think Mr D used to work for the IRS.
posted on March 3, 2008 04:47:03 PM new
Great article. Even if the "boycott" did not cripple Ebay, most people are now admitting that it did do some damage and they are taking notice.
It is not the price hike alone, but all of the other bulls*i*. There are so many rules and loopholes I think Mr D used to work for the IRS.
posted on March 3, 2008 06:21:19 PM new
thanks for the info on ecrater ~ that will be my project for tomorrow!
I signed up for google checkout when I registered for OLA & ecrater ~ so far the only one I've had time to work through is OLA (four kids sick on and off for three weeks ~ yikes!)
on another note....
ebay stock spent the later part of the afternoon under $26 ~ came within 7 cents of the 52 week low.
posted on March 3, 2008 09:20:59 PM new
Those articles are very interesting as the other things discussed here. It is beginning to look like the changes on E-Bay are going to affect everyone. I have bought several orders of music CDs and DVDs. My problem is most of the items I buy one time only which is why I am tending to stick to E-Bay at the moment. I stand a better chance of selling them there. I really want to try some of the other places,but won't have the time until later this spring when I cut my hours to a couple days a week at work.
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Just wanted to let you know about this new website that pays us up to 36% of the seller's fees whenever we buy something on eBay.
We can also get cash back at other retailers and earn extra cash when other people shop.
Just use the link below to check it out and let me know what you think!
posted on March 4, 2008 09:39:55 AM neweCrater sounds like a win, however, I'm unsure as what to list on which site.
How about posting your items on both (or all if that's the case).
I have everything on both ecrater and epier. Then I will list a few items here and there on eBay. If I sell it on eBay, then I simply cancel or delete the item from the other site. The best part is it can be done in a matter of a minute or two.
In the same breath, if I have it listed on eBay and it sells somewhere else, I simply edit my eBay listing to another item that I do have which would be priced in the same price range.
posted on March 4, 2008 11:26:01 AM new
In the same breath, if I have it listed on eBay and it sells somewhere else, I simply edit my eBay listing to another item that I do have which would be priced in the same price range.
Why haven't I ever thought of that?!!! I have actually had to cancel ebay auctions because I sold the item on another venue. Never thought of editing it, just took the loss of listing fees.
