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 neglus
 
posted on September 12, 2013 06:30:57 AM new
Well now we know why eBay is offering all the free listings:

"To further create a marketplace where buyers find what they want and drive positive user experience, we updated the provision regarding listing conditions to recognize that the appearance and placement of listings in search and browse results will depend on a variety of factors. So, in some situations a listing may not appear in some search and browse results regardless of sort order."

Why bother?
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 ebabestreasures
 
posted on September 12, 2013 07:27:48 AM new
I know what you mean.

I'm sick of running an auction for a week and only having 3 or 4 people look at it. Also, if you search your item from another ID, before your item is shown, you see several other seller's item 1st. Why should anyone have to pay for that.

My husband took early retirment at the beginning of the year and said the other day
he wants to start selling some of his vintage stereo equipment and records. I decided that NOW is the time to start our own website.

 
 lostmymojo
 
posted on September 12, 2013 11:25:52 AM new
Is that why my auction sell thru rate is like 1 %?

 
 otteropp
 
posted on September 12, 2013 11:37:34 AM new
I am glad that I am on vacation and can take some time to decide where I am going to sell in addition to keeping a presence on eBay.

We have all been saying for so long that we have been getting far less 'views' than we used to and it cannot all be attributed to the economy or time of year. Now they are actually putting it in writing...it beats me how they can get away with offering a service & not providing it.
When I do a search I usually do it three times and the results are different each time.

I don't like the sites where you are expected to be 'social'. I am a very sociable person but I really just want a site where my items will be seen and stand a good chance of being sold.

I have been looking at 'volusion' as one option. Does anyone have any experience with them?

 
 merrie
 
posted on September 13, 2013 06:51:28 AM new
This sounds like a lawsuit to me. What happened to full disclosure / transparency?

If my items are not going to be seen, I should know so I don't waste my time. Free listings are not free if you spend time developing them. If there is a reason for them not showing up in searches (poor pictures, bad FB, etc) then the seller has a right to know.

 
 lostmymojo
 
posted on September 13, 2013 09:37:57 AM new
There is a retailer who sells on Amazon,he has a gadget which is a reading lite for Kindle.
He is suing AMZN when a VP from AMZN asked for a bigger cut of commish and he refused,then the VP said he can make it so that AMZN customers would never find his listings?
Yes,it is possible to make your listing invisible,in the past some sellers dropped out of having an Ebay store when he found out his listings are on page 11.

 
 merrie
 
posted on September 13, 2013 01:52:12 PM new
Also, a good reason not to start your auctions at a ridiculously low price, because perhaps only one person will see it.


 
 shagmidmod
 
posted on September 15, 2013 08:21:52 AM new
I would like to know how this is determined.

If you have the following title:

TABLE LAMP NFL TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS FOOTBALL HELMET NEW IN BOX

And you search, "Lamp"

You really can't expect your item to appear in the 1.38 million results anyways. It's likely there, but who's dumb enough to scroll through endless pages trying to find it?

But if you search, "Tampa Bay Football Lamp" is your item going to appear among the 5 lamps currently online?

I want to know what is being used to determine these factors... and more importantly are my items appearing in search, and if not, why?


 
 shagmidmod
 
posted on September 15, 2013 08:34:08 AM new
I think the purpose (and meaning) of this is unclear.

I am wondering if this is a clarification in how search already works. For example:

LAMP WITH NEW SHADE shouldn't be included in a search for "new lamp" if the lamp is not new.

We have to keep in mind that for over a decade we have been taught that keywords are very important. The concern I have is that we are entering a new phase of eBay where their algorithms are so complex that it is filtering out some items.

This is something being applied to the job market and is quite frustrating to applicants. Algorithms are being used to filter resumes, cover letters, and applications before a human eye ever sees any applicants information. Computers are scanning documents submitted by applicants, searching for keywords and then it spits out a "score". If that score is above the threshold it gets forwarded to the HR department.

I am concerned a similar system is being applied to eBay.

 
 lostmymojo
 
posted on September 15, 2013 10:23:07 AM new
One Ebay seller recently pointed out that the new serach engine CASSINI? is not so much a search engine to find an item as to block certain items to be found!
There are just too too many items on Ebay,just trying to find the relevant items have become rather difficult,so why not block items poorly described and poorly photographed by lousy sellers who dont respond to inquiry ,upload tracking,pack carefully and leave glowing feedback in a promptly manner.
I also suspect that Ebay discriminate against sellers who buy on Ebay and resell on Ebay,dumpster dive,always whining it is never their fault and always a date late and a penny short when it comes time to pay his bills!
[ edited by lostmymojo on Sep 15, 2013 10:27 AM ]
 
 alldings
 
posted on September 15, 2013 12:32:54 PM new
When a buyer does a search eBay always lists a bunch of up sell stuff the buyer may or want. From what I read Cassini will be a specific search so if you need a tire for a Model T Ford it finds all the sellers of model T tires and filters out other tire sale sites.It may offer other model T parts in the up sell. Seems great to me as a seller and buyer!
 
 
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