mcjane
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posted on August 11, 2001 01:12:56 PM
I found her on my screen door, she's a big girl. Looks like she's expecting.
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jumpinjacko
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posted on August 11, 2001 01:29:33 PM
MEG WHITMAN......
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EBAY ID
JUMPIN*JACK
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mybiddness
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posted on August 11, 2001 01:58:52 PM
Sorry I can't help McJane I thought I'd do a spider search on the web but I started feeling queasy... 
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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rawbunzel
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:00:48 PM
'Round these parts we call 'em spiders. After that we call 'em squished.
they only get squished if they are in the house..not outside where they belong!
[ edited by rawbunzel on Aug 11, 2001 02:02 PM ]
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ZiLvY
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:13:45 PM
Why McJane, its called a brown mottled, 8 legged, hairy Aaaaarrrrgghhhh get it off me, get it off me!!!
Sorry, I hate SPIDERS....pant, pant, pant!
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snowyegret
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:14:36 PM
WOW!
I'm sooo glad we don't lay eggs....
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rawbunzel
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:19:17 PM
OK. I pulled myself together and looked in my Audubon Guide To Insects and Spiders. It appears to be a "thin-legged wolf spider".
Yes, she has her babies in her cocoon. When they hatch she will carry them around on her back.Fairly harmless. Yucky just the same.
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:21:45 PM
Offhand, I'd say it looks like what's known as a "nursery web spider." We have them around here.
To quote from a spider guide:
Nursery web spiders (Pisuridae) attract attention because of their large size ... The female carries her huge egg sac in her jaws. When hatching time is near, she ties leaves together with silk and suspends her egg sac among them. She then sits on guard nearby. The young spiders leave the nursery after about a week.
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ZiLvY
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:26:26 PM
Rawbunzel, we must have the heavy legged wolf spider around this area...as a kid I had been helping with the haying on my dad's farm...my job was up in the hay loft stomping down the loose hay as he forked it into the loft...hot, dusty and itchy work. But, on a farm everyone works when it is harvest time of any crop.
After a full day of this I went upstairs to change my clothes and have a much needed bath. That night as I lay, exhausted in bed I heard a distinct "plop" onto the very pillow my head was on...jumped up turned on the light and beat the beeejeeepers out of that sucker...Dad said the remains looked like a rather bent wolf spider....Aaaarrghhh I hate spiders!!
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snowyegret
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:26:51 PM
Warning! Warning! Warning
Big Spider Picture!
Fishing Spider (Dolomedes tenebrosus)
FAMILY: Pisauridae--Nursery-Web Spiders on this page
Does this look like her?
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 02:27:44 PM
rawbunzel,
At first I thought wolf spider too, because of the coloring (I also have wolf spiders running in packs around here). But I think the size makes the difference. Hard to tell from the photo. If the critter measures about 1.5" including legs, I'd say wolf spider. But any bigger than that, my money's on the nursery web spider.
Of course, if we knew the spider's habits we could make a determination also, for my guide reads: Nursery web spiders resemble the related Wolf Spiders, but differ in habits.
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Femme
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posted on August 11, 2001 03:35:37 PM
Spider. Why did it have to be a spider.
LOL at Rawbunzel and Snowy. 
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Femme
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posted on August 11, 2001 03:39:02 PM
McJane,
What are those white drops on the second picture?
Did her water break?
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on August 11, 2001 03:46:03 PM
[ edited by ExecutiveGirl on Aug 11, 2001 03:48 PM ]
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 03:50:14 PM
Imagine finding one of those curled up in the pocket of a piece of clothing you were planning to sell, ExecutiveGirl. Hehehehe. You never know ...
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 03:52:42 PM
Femme,
It's saliva. Dripped off spidey's jaws. Mama's huuuuuungry ...
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snowyegret
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posted on August 11, 2001 04:37:13 PM
Spaz, spiders love country music.
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mcjane
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posted on August 11, 2001 05:05:06 PM
snowyegret:
That looks like her except for the color in her legs. This spider is black, dark gray & brown.
femme:
Thay are raindrops.
She is maybe larger than a silver dollar. She makes the print on the envelope look small. I wanted to put a penny beside her for comparison, but thought if I did, she would take off....
She stayed around for an hour & then went on her way. I wouldn't be suprised if I saw her again since she is somewhere out back on the deck.
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 05:15:39 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if I saw her again since she is somewhere out back on the deck.
Or perhaps unbeknownst to you she has found a way into your house and has concealed herself just out of sight where she lies waiting, waiting for the lights to dim so she can creep forth to deposit her groaning sac of eggs in the warm and welcoming ear of some unsuspecting sleeper ...
[ edited by spazmodeus on Aug 11, 2001 05:22 PM ]
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mcjane
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posted on August 11, 2001 05:29:08 PM
Well, that did it. I know I won't sleep tonight.
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rancher24
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posted on August 11, 2001 05:31:11 PM
And the next lot we're auctioning off is a Brand New, Never Used, Pair of Ear Plugs..Good blocking out sound & pregnant spiders looking for a place to lay their eggs! Opening Bid $1 No Reserve....Get 'em NOW before it's too late!!!!
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Femme
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posted on August 11, 2001 06:26:35 PM
mcjane,
I wouldn't be surprised if you see her and 20 more who look just like her out on your deck. (shudder)
Spaz,
You have got to quit reading those Stephen King books. LOL
[ edited by Femme on Aug 11, 2001 06:29 PM ]
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mcjane
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posted on August 11, 2001 07:44:58 PM
I know femme, I thought about that. There is another one right about where I put her.
A couple of months ago I hung a couple of throw rugs over the deck railing & later when I went to get them, started to pick one up & something that looked just like her, maybe it was her, was under one. Well, the rugs are still there! & that's where they are going to stay.
I'm not afraid of spiders & I really like & respect them for what they do, but when they get that big I would really freak out if one of them was crawling on me.
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saabsister
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posted on August 11, 2001 08:00:29 PM
I remember a phone call I made from the west coast to my husband in Virginia shortly after we had moved into our present house. He told me that he had pulled a bowl down from the cupboard and found a huge spider that covered the bottom of the bowl. I knew that he was afraid of spiders, so I thought "yeah, sure..." A few months later we were helping a neighbor paint her house when a wolf spider the size of a floppy disk  ran out from under the hotwater heater. I was converted.
We've seen so many spiders over the years that we're no longer afraid of them. In fact the resident wolf spider has been missing from the basement for the last week and I hope nothing happened to it. On the other hand my youngest sister was recently bitten by a brown recluse. The rest of us are waiting to see if her leg falls off. (Just joking. I realize these bites can be serious. We just like to tease this sister because she's such a worrywart. And other than some swelling and a bruised area, her leg is recovering just fine.)
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 11, 2001 10:07:08 PM
She got lucky, saabsister. Some brown recluse victims sustain such serious tissue damage that they require skin grafts. I know that at least one child has died due to the aftereffects of the bite.
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saabsister
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posted on August 12, 2001 05:46:53 AM
Yes, spazmodeus, she was lucky -at least her reaction seems to be minor compared to what other people who have been bitten by the brown recluse have suffered. When I was growing up parents made sure that their kids could identify black widow spiders but no one ever mentioned the brown recluse. My sister and I went to a nature center that had some spiders on display - still no brown recluses. The guides there looked in their books and couldn't even find a picture for her. Finally, I remembered that it was a violin spider and we found it. Not many people in this area can identify them.
She never saw the spider. She assumed later that it must have been in her capri pants that she had just gotten out of storage. The doctor surmised by the wound that it must have been a brown recluse. Please, folks, don't kill all your spiders because of this!
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Microbes
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posted on August 12, 2001 06:57:47 AM
I landed in the hospital for 2 weeks over a Brown Recluse.
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Hjw
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posted on August 12, 2001 07:55:17 AM
A preserved brown recluse spider showing the strongly contrasting and well-defined violin pattern on the cephalothorax as well as the patternless abdomen covered with fine hairs. (photo by R. Vetter ©)
I read that sometimes the effects can last as long as two years.
Helen
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saabsister
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posted on August 12, 2001 08:14:09 AM
Helen, that's the first picture I've seen where the violin is really apparent.
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Hjw
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posted on August 12, 2001 08:51:51 AM
Thanks Saabsister
It wasn't easy to find.
Several people have died from the bite of this little critter so it's good to know what it looks like.
Helen
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