deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 11:41:34 AM new
We need to invest heavily on this new form of security for our nation. With this we can trace the movements of suspected terrorist, drug dealers and gun runners.
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gravid
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posted on October 1, 2001 12:30:33 PM new
Not to mention dead beat parents anyone with a warrent out against them - parking violators - people with overdue library books and political enemies of whoever controls the system like people who belong to militias, ACLU, opposing party, minority parties, labor unions, newspaper reporters, government employees meeting with the "wrong" people.
Yep we also need to buy 300 million rubber Nixon masks.
[ edited by gravid on Oct 1, 2001 12:32 PM ]
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snowyegret
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posted on October 1, 2001 12:53:50 PM new
Gravid, I found my old one. It's going to come out after a long retirement for Halloween.
I can also wear it to the next Snooper Bowl. 
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:06:38 PM new
Gravid,
Yes, but that is the price one has to pay in order to be safe again. In Charlotte, NC the eye scan techonology has been working great at their airport.
Personaly if a few deadbeat parents get caught along the way, I won't loose any sleep over that.
Proud American!
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:10:59 PM new
I am not willing to give up any of my rights for some ephemeral feeling of safety. There are ways around any technology...but give up a right to the government, and you will never get it back.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:15:27 PM new
Ditto what toke just said ( Hi toke!  ).
I guess some people won't be happy until they have to surrender all their rights, in order to save them. 
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:19:55 PM new
Giving up what rights?
Proud American!
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godzillatemple
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:20:54 PM new
I guess some people won't be happy until they have to surrender all their rights
Errrr... Would you believe we're not actually surrendering our rights; we're just suppsoed to give them to the government for safekeeping. Kinda like putting your money in a bank or your furs into cold storage. Yeah, that's the ticket. And I'm sure the government will give them all back to us when we ask for them, right?
Then again....
Barry
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The opinions expressed above are for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary....
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:31:26 PM new
Giving up what rights?
With this we can trace the movements of suspected...
Who are "we" and who are the "suspected"?
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:34:34 PM new
Hey Mr. P...
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krs
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:35:27 PM new
Refreshing cynicism, Barry.
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:37:31 PM new
Remember the temporary income tax? 
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:46:34 PM new
Giving up rights?
You mean like how now if you want to fly you have to submit to body scans and luggage searches?
So how many of you think we should take back our right to not be searched. Would you feel better flying then?
Proud American!
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krs
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:52:54 PM new
"Remember the temporary income tax?"
I knew that you are old, Toke, but not that old.
Funny how some of the loudest proud americans often seem to have no clue what it is to be an american.
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:56:39 PM new
Giving up rights? You mean like how now if you want to fly you have to submit to body scans and luggage searches?
I thought the topic was using biometric technology to trace the movements of suspected wrogdoers, but I see now that it has been changed to walking through a metal detector and having your bags x-rayed.
Please excuse my misunderstanding.
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:58:41 PM new
Here comes the Preaching!
Proud American!
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snowyegret
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:59:23 PM new
MrP, some things change, and some things never change.
I won't loose any sleep over that.
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=2&id=317045&thread=317038
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:59:55 PM new
krs...
You're right. I've only read about it, but thought you might remember...
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krs
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:01:25 PM new
No, not quite, but I'd bet that Dan remembers....or used to.
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gravid
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:01:58 PM new
I am sure they have a data base of all terrorist faces before they try to enter the country.
I guess I must be the only one that can imaigine being on the wrong side of the law and being tracked down. Everyone else must be so pure of heart and removed from any controversial politics or organizations that they will never be out of favor. Certainly no Libertarians or Branch Davidians, no ACLU members or Scientologists. No Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormans.
I can see being pulled in because my face showed up near three or four crime scenes and I need to explain why I was in the neighborhood each time.`Or being pulled in because I had lunch with the wrong person who is organizing a petition or is a reporter for a news network and I might be whistleblowing.
I wonder if people really realize how powerfull this software is.
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:04:19 PM new
Actually Mr Potatohead, it is about using whatever means we have at our disposal to keep Sept. 11 from ever happening again. It is about trying to save lives.
Sorry if my addressing you by name goes against some unspoken code here (per Antiquary's comments) but I don't want any confusion as to whom I am addressing. Somepeople here take every post to be about them unless specifically addressed elsewhere.
If some posters here would be so kind as to explain to me when I should use a name and when I should not, I will try to catch on.
Thanks,
Proud American!
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:08:13 PM new
He looks good for ancient...a lot like my husband.
gravid...
guess I must be the only one that can imaigine being on the wrong side of the law and being tracked down. Everyone else must be so pure of heart and removed from any controversial politics or organizations that they will never be out of favor. Certainly no Libertarians or Branch Davidians, no ACLU members or Scientologists. No Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormans.
Believe it or not, you're not. Not even close.
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:10:35 PM new
Snowegret,
Cute link. Thank you. I often type that wrong. So nice of you to make a point of searching for that thread. I shall remember your kindness always.
Proud American!
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snowyegret
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:13:50 PM new
It's always nice to share favorites.
Full moon tomorrow.
You have the right to an informed opinion
-Harlan Ellison
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mrpotatoheadd
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:23:04 PM new
Sorry if my addressing you by name goes against some unspoken code here...
I take no exception to being addressed.
...it is about using whatever means we have at our disposal to keep Sept. 11 from ever happening again.
Yes, but where do you draw the line?
You could make it a capital crime to be outside your house without a valid travel permit and biometric identification documentation. That would likely result in more safety for those with the appropriate documentation, but who would want to live like that?
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:27:35 PM new
Mr. Potatohead,
Thank you for not taking exception to my posting directly to you.
Where to draw the line is indeed a sticky question? I tend to like my privacy too.
I also don't like getting scanned and searched at the airport but I do feel it a neccessary inconvenience. And so far, at least, there has been no attempt to stop me on my street and scan and search me.
Proud American!
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dman3
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:31:03 PM new
Would be easy to convince american To let the taliban Have the white house.......
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 03:04:32 PM new
Here is an interesting link.
http://www.privacy.org/pi/reports/biometric.html
We'll see if my ubb is working any better this afternoon.
I really find this new technology facinating and would love to talk with anyone of an open mind.
Proud American!
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deliteful
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posted on October 1, 2001 03:26:33 PM new
Oh dear, I see some more typos and spelling errors in some of my posts. What is protocol here? Should I always go back and edit my errors or do I leave them as fodder for laughs?
Proud American!
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toke
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posted on October 1, 2001 03:29:50 PM new
Leave them. I like to laugh.
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