posted on February 23, 2004 03:27:51 PM new
You're going to need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view both of the links below. You can download it, free, here:
This first link is the fifteen-page (but it's extremely large print, so not a long slog at all) testimony given by Kristen Breitweiser (whose husband, Ron, died in World Trade Center Tower 2 on September 11, 2001) to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on September 18, 2002.
This second link is the twelve-page (again, large print, so not long) testimony of Mindy Kleinberg, whose husband, Alan, was killed in Tower 1. Mrs. Kleinberg testified before the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States on March 31, 2003, shortly after American troops invaded Iraq.
posted on February 23, 2004 03:33:01 PM new
I dont know how New Yorkers get up and go to work every day like its the same ole same ole. I dont think I would ever be the same after something like that.
posted on February 23, 2004 04:02:31 PM new
Twelvepole, only you could come up with such a callous remark. How you manage to leap from portraying yourself as a 'patriotic' American to one who spits upon some of the noblest Americans in your (our) midst boggles not only the mind but the spirit as well. Laziness dictates your every move, and you are beneath contempt; you are, in fact, a disgrace, and an embarrassment to decent Americans everywhere. Shame on you.
posted on February 23, 2004 04:17:12 PM new
Lets see you post remarks from people that are blaming our government for what they suspect should of been done...
Yeah right
I am in now way dinengrating the 3000 that died, but some of the survivors sure are... besides this has been out for awhile... you bring nothing new to the table.
posted on February 23, 2004 04:35:38 PM new
Twelvepole, you can spew all you like. You are the one digging your own hole ever-deeper. The fact is, you haven't read the testimony of either of these Americans who were directly affected by the events of 9/11 because you are intellectually lazy and because those steel doors on your mind might crack right off their hinges if you let any views other than your own narrow and ill-informed ones occupy even a moment of your time.
You free-wheelingly have called me everything from a racist to an ignorant person. But with nearly every post you make you evince those very characteristics yourself. Have you never encountered the term 'projection'?
No one here is fooled or daunted by your impotent opinions, Twelvepole, least of all I.
posted on February 23, 2004 04:52:52 PM new
LOL, At least we are in agreement... You don't care what I write... wait didn't you make some dumbass comments about my posting... so I guess that is out... you really do care... I for one am not going to let your anti-American sarcasm go unchecked... I will call you on it each and every time...
I did not go and serve this country so the likes of you can run it down every time you feel like your handout isn't getting filled fast enough...
I certainly didn't serve so some goddamn queer could get "married"...
I for one really do not care what you have to say about me or my postings... I do not value your opinions in the least or most of those posting here... there are a few, but you're not one of them... and certainly no one living outside the US.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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[ edited by Twelvepole on Feb 23, 2004 04:55 PM ]
posted on February 23, 2004 05:03:07 PM new
"Anti-American sarcasm" ??? Are you downright delusional, Twelvepole?
This is not a thread about 'running down' this country, nor is it a thread that has anything at all to do with 'some goddamn queer' getting married.
In all truth, I'm beginning to worry about you; you're not even able to stay on-topic anymore, let alone post anything that doesn't have 'queers' as its theme. Where are you located? I'd consider it my civic duty (and a privilege, to boot) to dispatch an emergency psychiatric unit to your house at once...
posted on February 23, 2004 05:10:35 PM newAnd now, to get back on-topic, here is a link to the Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Independent Commission website:
posted on February 23, 2004 05:58:59 PM new
Real Americans remember September 11, and also remember that Iraqi's didn't do it.
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posted on February 29, 2004 04:27:05 PM newThe Family Steering Committee Statement and Questions Regarding the 9/11 Commission Interview with President Bush
Monday 16 February 2004
The Family Steering Committee believes that President Bush should provide sworn public testimony to the full ten-member panel of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States . Collectively, the Commissioners are responsible for fulfilling the Congressional mandate. Therefore, each Commissioner must have full access to the testimony of all individuals and the critical information that will enable informed decisions and recommendations.
Before an audience of the American people, the Commission must ask President Bush in sworn testimony, the following questions:
1. As Commander-in-Chief on the morning of 9/11, why didn’t you return
immediately to Washington, D.C. or the National Military Command Center once
you became aware that America was under attack? At specifically what time did
you become aware that America was under attack? Who informed you of this fact?
2. On the morning of 9/11, who was in charge of our country while you were away
from the National Military Command Center? Were you informed or consulted about
all decisions made in your absence?
3. What defensive action did you personally order to protect our nation during
the crisis on September 11th? What time were these orders given, and to whom?
What orders were carried out? What was the result of such orders? Were any such
orders not carried out?
4. In your opinion, why was our nation so utterly unprepared for an attack on
our own soil?
5. U.S. Navy Captain Deborah Loewer, the Director of the White House Situation
Room, informed you of the first airliner hitting Tower One of the World Trade
Center before you entered the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota,
Florida. Please explain the reason why you decided to continue with the
scheduled classroom visit, fifteen minutes after learning the first hijacked
airliner had hit the World Trade Center.
6. Is it normal procedure for the Director of the White House Situation Room to
travel with you? If so, please cite any prior examples of when this occurred.
If not normal procedure, please explain the circumstances that led to the
Director of the White House Situation Room being asked to accompany you to
Florida during the week of September 11th.
7. What plan of action caused you to remain seated after Andrew Card informed
you that a second airliner had hit the second tower of the World Trade Center
and America was clearly under attack? Approximately how long did you remain in
the classroom after Card’s message?
8. At what time were you made aware that other planes were hijacked in addition
to Flight 11 and Flight 175? Who notified you? What was your course of action
as Commander-in-Chief of the United States?
9. Beginning with the transition period between the Clinton administration and
your own, and ending on 9/11/01, specifically what information (either verbal
or written) about terrorists, possible attacks and targets, did you receive
from any source? This would include briefings or communications from
• Out-going Clinton officials
• CIA, FBI, NSA, DoD and other intelligence agencies
• Foreign intelligence, governments, dignitaries or envoys
• National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice
• Richard Clarke, former counterterrorism czar
10. Specifically, what did you learn from the August 6, 2001, PDB about the
terrorist threat that was facing our nation? Did you request any follow-up
action to take place? Did you request any further report be developed and/or
prepared?
11. As Commander-in-Chief, from May 1, 2001 until September 11, 2001, did you
receive any information from any intelligence agency official or agent that UBL
was planning to attack this nation on its own soil using airplanes as weapons,
targeting New York City landmarks during the week of September 11, 2001 or on
the actual day of September 11, 2001?
12. What defensive measures did you take in response to pre-9/11 warnings from
eleven nations about a terrorist attack, many of which cited an attack in the
continental United States? Did you prepare any directives in response to these
actions? If so, with what results?
13. As Commander-in-Chief from May 1, 2001 until September 11, 2001, did you or
any agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks
with UBL, an agent of UBL, or al-Qaeda? During that same period, did you or any
agent of the United States government carry out any negotiations or talks with
any foreign government, its agents, or officials regarding UBL? If so, what
resulted?
14. Your schedule for September 11, 2001 was in the public domain since
September 7, 2001. The Emma E. Booker School is only five miles from the
Bradenton Airport, so you, and therefore the children in the classroom, might
have been a target for the terrorists on 9/11. What was the intention of the
Secret Service in allowing you to remain in the Emma E. Booker Elementary
School, even though they were aware America was under attack?
15. Please explain why you remained at the Sarasota, Florida, Elementary School
for a press conference after you had finished listening to the children read,
when as a terrorist target, your presence potentially jeopardized the lives of
the children?
16. What was the purpose of the several stops of Air Force One on September
11th? Was Air Force One at any time during the day of September 11th a target
of the terrorists? Was Air Force One’s code ever breached on September 11th?
17. Was there a reason for Air Force One lifting off without a military escort,
even after ample time had elapsed to allow military jets to arrive?
18. What prompted your refusal to release the information regarding foreign
sponsorship of the terrorists, as illustrated in the inaccessible 28 redacted
pages in the Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry Report? What actions have you
personally taken since 9/11 to thwart foreign sponsorship of terrorism?
19. Who approved the flight of the bin Laden family out of the United States
when all commercial flights were grounded, when there was time for only minimal
questioning by the FBI, and especially, when two of those same individuals had
links to WAMY, a charity suspected of funding terrorism? Why were bin Laden
family members granted that special privilege—a privilege not available to
American families whose loved ones were killed on 9/11?
20. Please explain why no one in any level of our government has yet been held
accountable for the countless failures leading up to and on 9/11?
21. Please comment on the fact that UBL’s profile on the FBI’s Ten Most
Wanted Fugitives poster does not include the 9/11 attacks. To your knowledge,
when was the last time any agent of our government had contact with UBL? If
prior to 9/11, specifically what was the date of that contact and what was the
context of said meeting.
22. Do you continue to maintain that Saddam Hussein was linked to al Qaeda?
What proof do you have of any connection between al-Qaeda and the Hussein
regime?
23. Which individuals, governments, agencies, institutions, or groups may have
benefited from the attacks of 9/11? Please state specifically how you think
they have benefited. -------
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And now, a lawsuit, naming Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al. But don't worry, sleepwalkers, this case will be thrown out. Not because it has no merit, but because it has come under the jurisdiction of Judge Eduardo C. Robreno, a Republican appointed by George Herbert Walker Bush.
Judge Robreno
The Case, No. 03-5273 in the United States District Court, Eastern District of Pennsylvania:
Defendants Bush, Cheney, etc., have filed a motion to dismiss. Mrs. Mariani's Memorandum to The Court in opposition to the request for dismissal is here:
