posted on August 12, 2004 05:03:23 PM new
If you are a conservative, try posting as a liberal.... I don't mean hap hazard but an honest post with some thought behind it...
if you are a liberal try posting as a conservative... same thing with some thought behind it and an honest post...
posted on August 12, 2004 05:14:52 PM new
I do find reading this discussion board that liberal democrats are true to their party and they will never fade from what the liberal objectives are.
[ edited by Libra63 on Aug 12, 2004 06:57 PM ]
posted on August 12, 2004 06:06:15 PM new
I don't like people on public assistance. I don't like gay people. I don't like poor people. I don't like to pay taxes. I don't like to pay people enough to live on. I don't give a rats behind about the environment, what has it ever done for me? I don't like people to express their opinions if it has anything to do with pointing out our president's faults because he doesn't have any. I don't think all people deserve healthcare. I wouldn't like it if the poor suddenly were lifted out of poverty. It's best to keep them down where they deserve to be. It's all their fault anyway.
However, I do like shipping jobs overseas because I get to pay people less! I like it that gay people cannot marry. I would like it even more if the Constitution could be changed. I like war. Even more than war, I like that a no-bid contract was awarded to Halliburton. The rich deserve to get richer. And most of all I like ME, ME, ME!
Thank God, I'm not a republican!!!!!!! Geeze, twelve, what did you expect me to say?
Cheryl
. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
posted on August 12, 2004 06:25:00 PM new
As a Republican, I will work and support our family of 2.2 children while the wife stays home and cleans. We will go to church every weekend and pray to God every night at dinner and before bed. We will live in a wealthy suburban neighborhood where there are no minorities or any other people we find offensive and send our children to private school.
The wife will belong to the PTA and I will belong to neighborhood Republican party where us men talk about all the money we have while somking cigars and talking about all of our war stories. We will only watch wholesome TV, and pay someone to take care of the outside landscaping.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on August 12, 2004 07:56:52 PM new
Why do you disagree with me and my partner from getting married? I thought you accepted us as the gay people we are, not some second class citizen that doesn't have the right to be married.
If you truly accept us as indviduals and members of society, this issue of marriage would not or should not even be an issue... we bleed red just as you do and feel just as you do.... we just do it with the same sex.
posted on August 12, 2004 09:02:33 PM new
Oh brother. Is that the best you can do Twelve - gay marriage? (BTW, you've yet to mention how gay marriage affects you personally. Still thinking (googling) of a good comeback?) Is this roll playing supposed to mean something?
posted on August 12, 2004 09:35:16 PM new
Well said twelvepole, now, why don't you and your pinko pervert rump ranger pals polish up your tennis shoes and flit off to some other country where God fearing Christians like us don't have to watch your disgusting displays!
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Beware the man of one book.
- Thomas Aquinas
posted on August 12, 2004 09:57:17 PM new
I am a PROUD REPUBLICAN and this is just a sample of what we have to listen to day after day from those bleeding heart liberal Democrats.. They say.. What people choose to do in their bedrooms, as long as everybody consents and nobody gets hurt, is their own business. Who people choose to love is their own business. Which god (or lack thereof) people choose to worship (or not) is their business. People should be free to hold and express any idea they wish to, so long as they don't try to force others to live by them.
As a Republican I can't stand this idea. Instead, I favor the criminalization of consensual sex between same sex couples even if the acts hurts nobody. Wherever we Republicans can manage it, we've passed laws that won't let you to buy a beer on Sunday mornings, even if you're a moderate drinker, we don't believe this is a Christian thing to do on our Holy day.
When someone disagrees with my leader on foreign policy issues, our GOP politicians don't do the civic thing and just talk right back. Hell No, they label it "treason." and rightly so.
If someone dying of an incurable and terminal disease makes the decision to spare themselves a final week of severe pain, my Republican Party authorities push to have them arrested..and rightly so..
If someone smokes a joint from a plant grown in their own backyard in order to relieve the persistent eye pressure of glaucoma, Republican policies send them to the jailhouse..and rightly so..
"it's a Christian nation," which means that everybody has to act by our Republican interpretation of Christian values. Consensual and non-harmful conduct by same sex couples is illegal because it is a "crime against God" or a "crime against Nature." We believe that we have an exclusive phone line open to God and Nature. well, of course we do!
As a Republican I believe in individual accountability, but I cannot abide the idea that corporations should be responsible for the damage they cause. Although, When corporations defraud investors, our President "gets tough" and demands that the perpetrators ADMIT they've done wrong. That's it: no fine, no jail time, just an admission is all that is necessary.
Laws, you see, are for poor suckers. Another great Republican idea that we are particularly proud of is: corporations with their administrative offices, their factories, their distribution centers and all other business activities in the United States can escape corporate income taxes by setting up a mailbox in the Cayman Islands and calling it their headquarters. These corporations use our roads, our mail, our education system, our hospitals -- but they don't have to contribute a penny to cover the expense. On Planet Republican, that's the job of the little people, the suckers. . How clever is that!
We also believe the job of the little people is to suck it up and pay the price when corporations run roughshod over their lives. Chemical plant pollutes your river with carcinogens? Tough nougat: under Republican "tort reform," your ability to sue for compensation should you get sick is limited. Plus, YOU get to pick up the tab for cleaning up the mess. That's the Republican way.
The "compassionate conservative" version of kindness promoted by our Republican Party is simply to notice that others are less fortunate, but to do nothing about it except vocally hope that SOMEONE (someone else, that is) will lend a hand. Medicare? Cut it. Social Security? Cut it. Education? Underfund it. Head Start? Weaken it. That's the Republican way like it or lump it.
posted on August 13, 2004 03:46:55 AM new
drdoolittle
Well said! Right on the mark.
Cheryl
. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
posted on August 13, 2004 05:03:55 AM new
You tell’him profe.
Muther naiture’s tak’in care’of him; praise bein’ to God, poofs ain’t contributin to the gene pool.
What’s more.
It were once such that a clean descent livin’ Chrischun white folk could walk with his head up high and let the kids mingle with other kids in the nayberhood, without fearin’ them mixin’ with the wrong type; I mean thems without no pedigree.
Now you can’t let a white girl go out without fear of her bein’ tainted by some foreign, mixed-bred, English language-butchering, Bhudist, mullato-type.
In my pappy’s day, If’n you had a vermin problem; you’d do a quick cullin’ or chase the vermin away, now you gots to go and gets your feed in the same shop as’em & stands behinds them in the cue no less.
This is my cuntry darn’it, how cans we hold our heads up no more.
posted on August 13, 2004 05:07:47 AM new
I am so glad to be a citizen of this country. I like the fact the our president cares when he sends our sons and daughters to war and knows that the outcome will be positive. He doesn't even need the experience of war or combat in his personal life to send our children, because he has a great team of advisers to make decisions for him. President Bush will always make the BEST decisions for this country.
I think it's also great that the president will ask the pope for guidance when he needs a spiritual guide. The pope really has been great in guiding our president in many issues, including that of the gay marriage issue. President Bush knows what is best for all Americans including what is best for their personal and private lives. That is why people like me and others from the Religious Right continue to support George Bush. Together we will make America a better country for everyone.
Some people from the democratic party say there are many people who are jobless. What an election year ploy. When will they stop trying to discredit our president. I don't think that is true. Some people may have lost their jobs though during Bush's first term of office, but, I still have mine and that's what counts to me. I have plenty to eat, name brand clothing, two nice cars and nicely furnished beautiful home.
On the way to work, I hate getting behind the public transit bus and having to stop all the time for the lazy bums and uneducated slobs that take it. I hope that they take them OFF the road. If they can't afford a car, then let them walk. Sometimes it gets cold here, but they will get used to it.
I want to buy some prime property nearby, but the only problem there is a homeless shelter nearby and many of these losers walk by the building that I am interested in. I don't know if I would be able to recoup any investment money that I put in it. I wish those lazy bas*tards would get off their stinking asses and get a job like normal people do. The car wash that I take my Mercedes Benz to was hiring. Why can't they get a job there. A job at $5.15 is better than no job.
I really love my new motor home. It's a diesel pusher model, which I got a great deal on. I saved over $15,000 on it by driving 250 miles to another dealer. It has everything that anyone could ever want in a motor home. I have to get used to driving it too. The old one that I sold was 32 feet long and this one is 37 feet long. You don't know how much that extra five feet make in interior space. What I like the best is that I can take an income tax deduction on the interest as it is considered a second home. We are thinking about buying another car to use when we are on vacation, which we will tow behind it.
Last Sunday, the police were at our church. It seems that some homeless person was sleeping in the doorway trying to stay warm. His shopping cart was also blocking the sidewalk of the church. It was very hard for everyone to get into the building. You should have seen the filthy clothes in that cart. The police told him to move on, thank God to that. I hope that my family won't ever have to see anything like that again.
I really get upset when I see on the evening news about some religious nut case taking a government official or municipality to court over a religious issue. They seem to think that everyone should convert to their minority religion. Apparently they don't know this is a Christian country. Why are they wasting the time of the courts bringing forth such stupid cases. What a waste of court time and taxpayers money. I pay enough taxes and hate seeing them wasted on this nonsense.
I know that President Bush will work to get my taxes lower and create laws to keep them low. That is why George Bush is the only true choice!
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 13, 2004 05:52:54 AM new
I am a liberal. I am proud to be a caring and giving person. However, I am more fond of the ostentation that my giving affords me than of the act itself! The recipients of my gifts are likened to that of a stagnant puddle by my foes. For even though all that flows there remains there with nowhere to go, and all that remains eventually corrupts the soil that holds it.. my cupeth is never empty for my fellow man who is that pond by his own design.
In my book, no thing is wrong and no thing is immoral. My lust for rebellion of anyone who lays claim to such is never compromised by goodness, discipline, value, or wisdom. My tombstone will read, "I fought for the liberty of others and gave all I had. Here I lie dead for it - hope you join me soon!"
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[ edited by neroter12 on Aug 13, 2004 05:54 AM ]
posted on August 13, 2004 06:17:45 AM new
I can't believe that you guys support that Kerry guy who was dumb enough to go to Vietnam where he almost got his ass shot off when he could just as well have stayed safe like President Bush because they were both rich kids. You honor Kerry because he got some stupid medals but you forget at that very same time Mr. Bush was doing an in-depth study of drug abuse so he could better understand the war on drugs in the future. How can you fight the war on drugs if you don't even know what a bong is?
I watched President Bush talk on Larry King last evening and once more he said that the world is now a safer place and that the economy is booming. Why can't you guys see that? He also said that he was sitting in that classroom for such a long time after he heard that our country was under attack because he was "collecting his thoughts". It takes a big man to think that hard.
I worship our President Bush from the time I get up in the morning and I pray to him each night before going to bed. God bless President Bush.
posted on August 13, 2004 06:21:08 AM new
I am currently working on a petition for the group at my church. Our petition drive will focus on the current trend towards the liberal gay oriented shows on television. This seems to be a worthwhile effort that needs the attention of the church. We are going to inform the major TV networks that we disapprove of this type of broadcasting and feel it should be immediately discontinued.
We feel the networks will cave into us or we will be forced to organize a boycott of their sponsors. We will also send petitions to the sponsors of these filthy shows. Americans should be able to turn on their television sets and NOT see such anti social programing. This type of programming needs to be eliminated NOW!
We will also be indicating to the major networks that we feel that Christian based family oriented programming is more appropriate for American Families.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 13, 2004 06:29:38 AM new
We gives it to ya 12;
Coz you aksed for it.
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Vote Gee Dumbya Bush; Coz yous waited for Armageddon long enough.
posted on August 13, 2004 06:46:00 AM new
I am SO GLAD that President Bush is opposed to stem cell research. He is a Christan man who follows that word of God and knows that God would disapprove of this. This is an abomination of the use of human life.
Some scientist say these stem cells may provide an important inroad into the cure of many human diseases. Even if that is true, and it may not be, we can't risk using these cells for that purpose as they were once a part of a human being.
My great Aunt Bessie died of Alzheimer's disease after years of suffering, just like former President Reagen did. She didn't have the ability to feed, dress, or bathe herself for several years due to this. This is of course very sad, but that is the way that God wanted things for her. It was hard to see her disintegrate into nothing. Her looks changed so rapidly and in the later years, she began to look so old so fast. She couldn't walk any more stayed in bed most of the day except when a nurses aid put her in a wheelchair to change her bed. She didn't even have the ability to recognize her own children, even though she was only 74 when she died. She once was a vibrant and out going, active person. I know that Aunt Bessie's suffering has now ended and she is in a better place. I miss her so bad, but I have to stand by our leader, President George W. Bush.
After Aunt Bessie's funeral, we had a nice dinner in her honor at our church. Every body had a good time.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 13, 2004 09:48:59 AM new
I'm a Republican. I believe that anybody who is not exactly like me is just plain wrong.
I support a president who happily sends our young to slaughter but has never faced anything scarier than an irritable State Trooper with a breathalizer.
Every single person who is rich did so HONESTLY through clawing their way to the top and anyone can do the same. I chose not to.
No rich people are ever BORN that way , they ALL worked so hard to get where they are.
All Republicans are Christians which is the correct thing to be and anybody else (but especially the liberals), are immoral, have no value, no wisdom, no discipline. This includes most of the world.
Although we do reserve the right to blackmail in a chat room.
Poor children ASKED to be born poor so why should we help them? They have no future so why help them? Poor people can always get a job at Walmart which will help keep them poor and in their place.
If we keep them poor and desperate we will have all that cheap labor to help make CEO's and the other upper 1% of the wealthiest people wealthy.
The environment is fine because I can breathe....doesn't that PROVE there's no problems?
Besides if they just cut down all those trees there wouldn't be any forest fires!
And, as a loyal Republican, I read all bumper stickers faithfully so I have something to base my opinions on.
Thank you.
posted on August 13, 2004 11:18:31 AM new
Hi! I'm a Republican. You may have heard of me in the news. I used my freedom of speech to respond to one of those *@%&^%# liberals who had a Kerry bumper sticker on her car(ya know we read them for all our information).
I pulled up along side her and let her know what I thought of her bumper sticker with my middle finger. Ha! You should've seen the terrified look on her face! But I chased her down the freeway giving her the finger all the way. YEEhAAWW!
I bet those scared little kids in her car now know what idiots they have for parents!
posted on August 13, 2004 01:22:06 PM new
Well...I agree with Michael Moore's statement when he said most American's are progressive and liberals. I just wish we could get those neo-cons to SHUT THE F*** up. I get SO tired of listening to their lies and their praise of President Bush...the way they talk you'd think he did something correct in how he's handled terrorism. We just KNOW that's not true at all.
Those neo-cons just don't agree with my views/opinions so they're just showing their stupidity, ignorance and how mean and hatefilled they really are. Just who do they think they are not agreeing with the way we - the 'SUPERIOR ONES' see things. WE KNOW BETTER!!! I hope to someday live in America where they aren't allowed to speak out about their foolish opinions. It will be a wanted change...and that day can't come soon enough for me.
Just like this numb-nuts so called dem... should be made to SHUT UP...
"Senator Kerry has been in the Senate for a long time. And during his tenure, he's introduced 500 pieces of legislation, seven of which have been adopted. Two or three of those concerned renaming bridges. A couple involved research grants. And a couple were giveaway programs, small loans.... But, he has voted against virtually every defense weapons system bill that's come down the pike." --Sen. Zell Miller
People like him should be SILENCED I tell you. Those, like myself, who are voting for kerry are very happy his past record shows he's against funding our troops needs, against funding our intelligence agencies....and he's for raising our taxes as much as he wants to. So why are the neo-cons whining all the time about it. Spending $735 Billion dollars more for all the promises he's made is nothing. You'd think he was asking for them to return to the 70% tax rates again.
Americans are more than willing to pay whatever he decides we should pay....after all they know we're all ultra-liberal - progressive socialists and want equality for all...no matter their personal motivations....or lack thereof. We ALL deserve the same material things. Most American's agree we shouldn't have the 'haves' and the 'have-nots'.
Equality is also necessary in order for our party to be able to quit using this 'class' argument at each and every election. We no longer want this nation divided...but rather unified...and if all have equal benefits...then we won't have that division any longer. Who really cares about productivity anyway? No need for anyone to stress out and work harder than others so they can have what they want out of life. No...it will all be equal....and I support that whole-heartedly.
I won't mind that $735 billion dollars only being a start of what's going to be required. When we get the other 27 million uninsured Americans that won't have insurance under kerry's current plan this time, insured, then I fully support them raising my taxes even MORE so we can ALL have free health insurance...care. After all Canada's such a shining example of how much better their health care system is than ours. And even if some are right...and it's not better...maybe worse....what the heck...at least we all have equal POOR medical treatment. That's what's most important....that it be equal. No one should be allowed to pay for better medical care....that's just not fair.
And this war situation has gotten out of hand, next thing you know we'll be attacking Iran....for no other reason that they are working towards nuclear arms. After all...their oil reserves aren't enough to heat their country...they need this power. Why the 'righties' worry about them having NWeapons is just beyond me. I have full confidence that when kerry's elected his "MORE SENSITIVE approach" to dealing with terrorism will take care of any issues that come up. Between kerry and France...the terrorists will melt in their hands...and do as we wish them too. And history proves that....just look at all the terrorists that have changed their evil ways - decapitating/murdering/taking hostages/etc - by countries that have used this new 'SENSITIVE' approach kerry says he'll use.
And on religion...I support kerry's being against gay marriages, for abortions - even late term ones - not funding our troops needs. After all, they never should have been sent over there in the first place. We don't really need a military...nor fighter jets...bullets...etc. IF we're just more willing to 'talk' to those who wish to destroy our way of life.
After all he's a Catholic who doesn't allow his professed religious beliefs/convictions to interfere with his political career. He has his personal views on right or wrong...but we can count on him not to live those views. No sir....he's our man....that's true Character.
Plus it's always fun not knowing what position on the issues kerry'll change from one day to the next. Keeps things exciting/interesting.
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 13, 2004 01:34 PM ]
posted on August 13, 2004 01:42:33 PM new
I am so glad that my son was able to graduate from the private college that "the wife" and I sent him too. It wasn't really that bad paying for it as some of my colleagues said it would be. My financial adviser told me to sell some of my stock and bonds that have appreciated in value. With the new favorable tax laws, this seemed the best thing to do. On the downside, instead of spending a month in Europe this year, we may possibly have to cut back to 2 weeks.
My son is going into a new changeling position with a very well known national corporation. His new position will provide with with a generous expense account, private car, and access to the corporate jet. I see him climbing the ladder rather quickly in this position.
Additionally, along with the other benefits, he will receive a generous yearly salary and stock options. Soon when he and his wife have children, they too will be able to provide the better things in life for their children. They are currently shopping for a new home in an exclusive neighborhood. They have looked at several houses, but just can't seem to find anything large enough for their future needs. Since my son was an accomplished swimmer, he will insist on a home with a sizable in ground pool.
I must say, while I am very proud of him , I am very ashamed and embarrassed of my other son. A short while ago he informed his mother and I that he was a homosexual. At first I thought that he was kidding, but he assured me that he was not. I have seen him with a person who he calls his lover. I am so glad my other son turned out better than that. I raised both of our sons in a God fearing Christian home. I don't know what to do with him. Why is he treating us this way? He has embarrassed our complete family into a state of shame, it is hard to even attend church. Our pastor has offered to counsel our son, but he refused it. I think that counseling and reading God's word will help him change to a normal lifesytle.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
posted on August 13, 2004 01:58:26 PM new
Speaking of corporations and all those great benefits they give to those who have actually achieved something in their lives.....
.....as a socialist I say we must take control over them all. Let the government run them and divide those profits equally. We'll all working the same amount of hours...so we should all get equal benefit of any net earnings these terrible American corportations earn.
After all....why should a CEO get paid so much...why should middle managers get so many benefits? One would think they spent a fortune going to college, or own their souls to the loan companies, in order to be trained in their professions. Heck...we all know any 'burger-flipper' could do the same job easily. No further need for a higher education....cause then those achievers will just be more we have to complain about - the GASP - wealthy...and all the material items they've been able to obtained. That's just not fair....not equal at all. Why should they have a BMW or a JAG....while I drive around in a 17 year old beat-up truck. I work just has hard as they do...sweaping the floors at those companies. That's back breaking work....while the CEO gets all that money for sitting in a chair all day long....doing nothing.
posted on August 13, 2004 02:23:52 PM new
linda says,
while I drive around in a 17 year old beat-up truck
Linda, give twelve 20 bucks for gas to use his truck, or next time he may make you walk.
The 20 bucks will buy him about 9 gallons.
Also linduh, a BMW and a Jag are foreign cars in case you don't know. I hope you own an apple pie American made Chevrolet and not something made in another land. If you do, then YOU would be responible for some of the unemployment if this country. You and your leader.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we! They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” ~ George W. Bush, 8/5/04
This is a great thread! I don't know what you posted, Twelve, but I really enjoy the demonstration of the absurd through absurdity. We are actually communicating and perceiving each other as others perceive us. Now I am going to reread the posts, all of the nuances are better than a 'Cheers' or 'Barney Miller' episode.
posted on August 13, 2004 04:09:40 PM new
haha Linda, now that was funny you pretending to be a liberal telling the neo-cons to STFU!
got a good laugh outta that one!!
To maintain an opinion because it is thine, and not because it is true, is to prefer thyself above the truth. Ones self-love, then, leads men of narrow minds to measure all mankind by their own capacity.
Prevent Bigotry through Education.