posted on August 17, 2004 12:34:20 PM new
here we go again-
illinois would like to allow its residents to buy prescription drug online from ireland,canada,uk.
If corporations can export jobs,why cant we import drug??
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posted on August 17, 2004 12:47:18 PM new
Not from Illinois but to your neighbor to the North.
Well not import them as that it what is done now. Many drug companies are foreign. There is nothing stopping us from going to their websites and order. I have read that if the US citizens purchase their drugs from Canada there will not be enough for the Canadian Citizens. I can't remember where I read that though so it might be false.
Well Stop the State of Wisconsin has a website that directs the residents to Canadian Pharmacies. It probably the same thing. Soon we will see those pharmacies will raise their prices so they can reap the profits. I have been checking them for quite a while and since I first started they have gone up 25%. That might not seem much but it is quite a bit.
posted on August 17, 2004 12:49:01 PM new
Stop, It is an interesting concept. I am in favor of it if it means people can get medication at a lower price without sacrifcing any saferty concerns.
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posted on August 17, 2004 12:54:50 PM new
logansdad if you are taking a drug that is high priced do an internet search on Canadian Pharmacies and see how many of them there are. If you are going to get your meds through Canada check more than one pharmacy as many have different prices.
posted on August 17, 2004 01:24:35 PM new
since there is price control in canada,us drug companies sell for less to the canadian pharmacies.
Some of our drug companies have already limited the supply to these pharmacies so they have enough to serve the canadian but not both canadian and us residents buying from their websites.
Yes,i have bot from canadian websites and there is a big difference in prices .
Same can be said of the mexican websites.
It would be a good idea that the State would ask these websites to register with the state and provide some credibility first
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posted on August 17, 2004 01:34:18 PM new
Thanks for the tip Libra. Right now I just have to pay my co-pay for my medications. I don't need to take any daily meds so right now this is not a concern for me.
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posted on August 18, 2004 08:01:07 AM new
My mother and step-father are on Medicare and the new prescription drug plan sucks!!!! They still cannot afford their meds. They are now ordering them from Canada and saying "screw you" to Bush's little benefit. You should be able to order your prescriptions from wherever you please without the government stepping in and saying "NO". Maybe if enough people do this the drug companies here will get the hint and lower their prices to within reason. There are many HIV+ people out there that take no meds because they cannot afford them. By the time they are sick enough to get SSDI, it's almost too late to start taking them. Taking them in the beginning stages is their best bet to staying healthy and productive longer.
Cheryl
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posted on August 18, 2004 08:27:18 AM new
Stop - the article about the state of Illinois was in our paper today. But there is a statement in that article that says "Drug companies are limiting supplies to Canada." So what that means I do not know.
Cheryl - A lot of drug companies have an patient assistant program. Find the name of the drugs your parents take and maybe you could call the drug companies. I know that Nexium (Astra-Zeneca) has one because I get mine from them. I have that number if you want it. Also I think if you search free meds on the Internet there are sites for you to get information. Zoloft also has one in the state of Wisconsin, no I don't take it but I know the drug rep, so maybe they have one in your state. There is help out their but the drug companies are not going to come to you, you have to find it.
Racine, Wisconsin has a store front that someone has opened to help Seniors or anyone I guess to help get their meds cheaper.
posted on August 18, 2004 11:47:43 AM new
Libra,
several US drug companies like Pfizer have already limited their supply to canadian pharmacies.
They sell to them at a lower price since Canada has price control.
But they (us drug companies) do not expect them to compete with our pharamcies by selling the surplus to us .
In the future,you will see Canadian pharmacies just have enough to fill the needs of their own people and not much left to sell to non canadians on the web.
Mexico is a different,they have been licensed to make us drug and sell in Mexico and Europe,there is no restriction on how much they can make and sell.
But not all prescription drugs are available in mexico.
I would be careful with drug made in India,or drug supposed made in foreign plants of us drug company marketed in Thailand??
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You may not be aware of it, but some of the HIV/AIDS medications can cost up to $100 PER PILL or more! I know people who have insurance and the cost of their HIV/AIDS meds would run them into the thousands every month - $3,000 for one person I know. The drug companies aren't giving them away. There are some programs out there, but it's very limited.
Cheryl
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posted on August 18, 2004 02:15:07 PM new
Not to mention the anti-rejection medications required for life after transplant. I have private insurance so I only have a copay. Without my insurance (which costs me $782.- per month) my meds would be 3000.- to 4000.- monthly depending on the month. As it is my copay runs around $250 in an average month. Medicare's coverage would force me to sell my house and become destitute, it is a joke.
posted on August 18, 2004 04:57:13 PM new
Cheryl I was addressing your comment on your parents not the HIV/AIDS drugs as I know nothing about them, but I would doubt any drug company would give those drugs away. Many drug companies do have patient assitant programs for seniors. That is what I was trying to tell you.
posted on August 18, 2004 06:08:23 PM new
Thanks for clearing that up, Libra. My mom's meds are for Alheimers and my step-father has multiple health problems. They don't qualify for script assistance. They're told they have too much money. Ha, ha, ha, ya right! My mother, at 69 is looking for part time work. It's a shame to have to do that at 69!
Cheryl
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posted on August 18, 2004 08:13:42 PM new
Go to Google and look up Patient Assistant Drug Program, or some variation of that. There are many companies that offer them.
Dave,
If you have a transplant, then you should investigate having Medicare paying for your anti rejection drugs. They are covered under that. Since about 2000 or thereabouts, Congress has redefined them as durable medical equipment, just like wheelchairs and such. Also, Medicare will provide you with a list of participating providers that will take the Medicare assignment. You will also need to check into buying a Blue Cross MediGAP policy. Mine costs 29.50 per month which pays for itself in one month. Doing these 3 things will allow you to get your meds for FREE. This is what I do. I have a kidney transplant.
Cheryl,
Pfizer has what they call the Pfizer Share Card. It's available for people on Medicare whose income is less than 18,000 for a single, and 24,000 for a married couple. With this, she can get a 30 day supply of Pfizer medicines for only 15.00 per prescription. I get about 200.00 dollars worth of meds for 30.00.
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posted on August 18, 2004 08:55:31 PM new
I don't get this. With such a large number of people needing these pills, why aren't the prices LOWER than Canada?
Yeager & Davebraun, I think you're both pretty brave for going through what you have.
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posted on August 18, 2004 10:20:30 PM new
kraftdinner because we have the Food and Drug Administration that test the drugs coming into the US to see if they are safe. Even though Canada has the same cover on the drugs doesn't mean they are the same as the US ones. We can assume they are but if something should happen when you take those drugs you have no recourse. In the US we do.
Cheryl all I have to do is show them my SS W2 and I get Nexium free. It has nothing to do with my husbands income just mine. It doesn't have anything to do with my part time job and it has nothing to do with our savings. When I called the PA program the person on the other end of the phone said all you need is the SSW2, besure and that is the only thing you send in.
posted on August 18, 2004 10:25:53 PM new
Thanks Yeager, for Kidney that is true for liver it is not (or at least it wasn't I'll check in the morning). Where I to switch to Medicare from my private insurer I would have no coverage for medicines I've looked into all the angles I also have too much income to qualify for the pharmaceutical companies relief programs (you need to be below the poverty line which I am not). Hopefully this will all change within my lifetime in the meantime my co-pays are not all that high so I am able to afford my meds. I feel sorry for those that cannot which is why I volunteer for Kerry.
Note to Kraft: Its not bravery you play the hand you are dealt as best you can.
posted on August 18, 2004 11:39:57 PM new
Hi kraft! Thanks for you kind words.
Dave is right. You deal with the problems that are dealt to you. Sometimes life isn't fair, but there are some that are worse off than me. I waited 4 years and 11 months for my transplant. I was I dialysis all that time. My arms are scared up like a drug users from the large needles.
During that time, I saw many younger and older people die while waiting for a transplant. I recall one of the youngest was a young lady named Darcy. She was 23 and was on dialysis for a short period of time, and always remarked how her hair was starting to fall out. She was hospitalized for something for a week. She then returned to the dialysis center for her regular treatments 3 times weekly. She was readmitted to the hospital 2 weeks later and died there. There are people in there 40's 50's and 60's who die waiting for organs.
This is another reason that I am voting for Kerry. As Bush seems to think that using stem cells for medical research is an evil thing. Those people who are in favor of banning such things are basing their position through a position of ignorance. If they ever had to go through what a sick person has been through, they would feel differently.
Right now I am dealing with small amounts of skin cancer. It's really nothing compared to being on dialysis.
I guess in simple terms, if you get a flat tire you fix it and continue on your way.
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posted on August 19, 2004 07:37:14 AM new
kraftdinner,
us drugs made by us companies are higher in usa than canada because we have no price control,it has nothing to do with usage.
Like they always said,someone has to pay for the research-for every drug coming to the market,it has to pay for its own expenses plus all the other drugs which never make it out of the drawing board,lab or FDA.
Dont forget all the potential lawsuits too!!
I think nancy reagon has the right idea-dont get sick.
we cannot afford to get sick!!
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posted on August 19, 2004 02:45:21 PM new
I have bought drugs in person at a Walmart in Ontario, Canada. They were much cheaper there than in Michigan. Especially so when the exchange rate was 40 percent. I believe the pharmacies there are only allowed to make a fee from dispensing the drug. I think this was about 7 dollars, that's it.
Another reason that drugs are cheaper in Canada is that the drug companies are not allowed to advertise the drugs for sale. It's against the law there. I watch Canadian TV quite often and you never see a commercial for prescription drugs. Here in the US, you can't watch TV for 1 hour without seeing at least 2 commercials for medicines. These advertisements have to be paid for by someone. Guess who?
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