posted on August 19, 2004 09:36:45 AM
Looking over your shoulder yet John.....Your lies are catching up to you...
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Judicial Watch Calls For Investigation Into Kerry’s Medals, Anti-War Actions
Formal Complaint Filed Over Senator’s Vietnam Awards, Post-Service Activities
(Washington, D.C.) – Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today filed a request with the U.S. Navy and the Defense Department for an investigation into the awards granted to Sen. John Kerry during his service with the U.S. Navy in Vietnam. Judicial Watch also requested that military authorities investigate Kerry’s anti-war activities, including his meeting with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong delegations in Paris, while a member of the Naval Reserve.
Basing its requests on a recently published book, Unfit for Command, by former Navy officer John E. O’Neill and Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D, and on news media interviews of other officers and sailors who served with Kerry, Judicial Watch notes that unresolved allegations against Kerry include: false official reports and statements; dishonorable conduct; aiding the enemy; dereliction of duty; misuse and abuse of U.S. government equipment and property; war crimes; and multiple violations of U.S. Navy regulations and directives, the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the U.S. Code.
Kerry was awarded three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star for “wounds” received and actions in Vietnam, but eyewitnesses refute his version of a number of the events that were the basis for receiving the commendations. Judicial Watch is asking the Department of Defense and the U.S. Navy, including its Department Board of Decorations and Medals, to look into the circumstances surrounding Kerry’s awards.
Judicial Watch also is requesting an investigation of Kerry’s anti-war activities. After he was released from active duty but while he was a commissioned officer in the inactive Naval Reserve, Kerry joined the anti-war group Vietnam Veterans Against the War and traveled to Paris to meet with delegations from North Vietnam and the Communist Viet Cong. He held a press conference in Washington, D.C., following the meeting and advocated the “peace proposal,” which included war damage reparations, put forth by the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong.
“The allegations concerning Kerry’s conduct during the Vietnam War are credible, serious and shocking,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The sooner an investigation begins, the better.”
posted on August 19, 2004 10:49:04 AM
Read this article this morning. Glad to hear it....might be part of what's got kerry so fired up.
Hoping three months is enough time to get this checked out and have more proof than just *they* said - *he* said arguments. And of course, "kerry said at one time"..."now kerry says differently now statements".
Would be so much easier and quicker if kerry would just sign the 180 form though, but there must be a reason he doesn't want to make it that simple - like hiding something.
One of the things that would be resolved is the shrapnel vs rice in his rear issue. Was it shrapnel from the grenade he tossed or pieces of rice he had removed from his rear that was caused by the grenade blowing up the rice field. LOL
posted on August 19, 2004 11:01:33 AM
Again because the neocons keep forgetting:
Kerry went and fought IN COMBAT for his country. This is true no matter what the Republican paid detractors say.
Will they say the same about the brave men and women who have fought in Iraq for us???
Will decorated heroes from that war face slander if someday THEY run for office?
YES, they will because the Republicans will stoop to anything to win.
How demoralizing for them knowing that so-called flag waving "patriotic" Republicans will only slander their efforts and sacrifices.
Bush stayed home drunk aiding and abetting the enemy by not fighting. A traitor and a coward
posted on August 19, 2004 11:47:00 AM
No slip ......Kerry was only saying what millions of other Americans were saying at the time. And we were ALL patriots.
Bush , acording to linda's definition of a traitor, was cowardly traitor who did not fight for his country.
posted on August 19, 2004 12:11:00 PMKerry went and fought..
Only because his request was denied to go abroad to France and study for a year....hoping that by doing so the war might be over and he would escape being drafted.
When his request was denied THEN he realized he'd have to either wait to be drafted or join and so choose where he'd like to serve. He chose a place that, at that time, was one of the safest places to be in VN. But that changed....then his program to get out of there in 4 months was put into action. He was only off duty ONE day will all those supposed injuries that he won those medals for.
Then he joined with our enemies to convince Americans WE were at fault in VN. Said our Democracy was a farce. Said our soldiers, including himself were war criminals. Looks like he did a GREAT job convincing the left.
No surprise in my mind that the VN vets are against having anyone like him as the CIC of our Armed Forces. They'd like to see a CIC that's on OUR side.
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
posted on August 19, 2004 01:41:58 PMWhen his request was denied THEN he realized he'd have to either wait to be drafted or join and so choose where he'd like to serve. He chose a place that, at that time, was one of the safest places to be in VN. But that changed....then his program to get out of there in 4 months was put into action. He was only off duty ONE day will all those supposed injuries that he won those medals for.
You forgot another alternative-- Using your family influence to get into the NG and then deserting like Bush did.
But no, Kerry, a real man of courage, choose to go into combat.
posted on August 19, 2004 01:54:52 PM
Kerry: Bush lets attack ads do 'dirty work'
Democrat calls on president to denounce commercials
Thursday, August 19, 2004 Posted: 12:13 PM EDT (1613 GMT)
BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidate and Vietnam War veteran John Kerry on Thursday shot back at attack ads questioning his service record during the war and called on President Bush to denounce the TV commercials.
Kerry said the ads, aired by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, are funded by a Republican contributor from Texas.
"They're a front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't denounce them tells you everything you need to know -- he wants them to do his dirty work," he told a cheering crowd at a meeting of the International Association of Fire Fighters in Boston.
"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: Bring it on!" Kerry challenged.
In response, Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry knows his statements are false.
"Sen. Kerry knows President Bush has called his service in Vietnam noble ... and the Bush campaign has tried to have a debate about the future, not the past," Schmidt said.
Kerry: Bush lets attack ads do 'dirty work'
Democrat calls on president to denounce commercials
Thursday, August 19, 2004 Posted: 12:13 PM EDT (1613 GMT)
BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- Democratic presidential candidate and Vietnam War veteran John Kerry on Thursday shot back at attack ads questioning his service record during the war and called on President Bush to denounce the TV commercials.
Kerry said the ads, aired by the group Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, are funded by a Republican contributor from Texas.
"They're a front for the Bush campaign. And the fact that the president won't denounce them tells you everything you need to know -- he wants them to do his dirty work," he told a cheering crowd at a meeting of the International Association of Fire Fighters in Boston.
"Of course, the president keeps telling people he would never question my service to our country. Instead, he watches as a Republican-funded attack group does just that. Well, if he wants to have a debate about our service in Vietnam, here is my answer: Bring it on!" Kerry challenged.
In response, Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry knows his statements are false.
"Sen. Kerry knows President Bush has called his service in Vietnam noble ... and the Bush campaign has tried to have a debate about the future, not the past," Schmidt said.
posted on August 19, 2004 02:31:39 PM
Say what you will about Pres Bush but remember this,
(1) Judicial Watch hasn't called for an investigation into his actions, LIKE THEY HAVE FOR KERRY
(2) Pres Bush is not a SELF CONFESSED WAR CRIMINAL LIKE KERRY.
(3) Pres Bush never aided and abetted the North Vietnamise LIKE KERRY
Electing a War Criminal/Perjurer President
Written by Doc Farmer
Wednesday, August 11, 2004
America is, in some ways, a very great and good nation. Good people, good land, good opportunities. It’s not a perfect place, but this is Earth not Heaven, so the best we can do is to strive for a more perfect union. In many ways we get there, at least in comparison with other nations.
However, there are some things that boggle the mind. Presidential elections are one of them.
And we’re coming up on another one in less than three months. Oh, it’ll seem far longer than that, I assure you. Claims, counter-claims, lies, damned lies, statistics, slander, libel, election fraud, vote buying – and that’s just the lib/dem/soc/commies.
But what do you do when one of your candidates shouldn’t even be a candidate in the first place?
Such is the case we have today.
John Forbes Kerry – aka Hanoi John, JFK-lite, Lurch, Botox-boy, etc. – is the nominee for the lib/dem/soc/commies. He has an ADA liberal rating of 90%, which puts him to the left of ALL of his Senate brethren. Not virtually all, just ALL. He’s more liberal than Teddy ''Don’t Worry, Mary-Jo, I’ll Drive'' Kennedy. He’s more liberal than Hillary ''Of Course, I’m A Lesbian, You’ve Seen My Husband Haven’t You?'' Clinton. He’s probably even more liberal than Josef ''I Love the Smell of Pogroms in the Morning'' Stalin.
Nevertheless, he’s the lib/dem/soc/commie’s choice as candidate.
He’s also something else. He’s a self-confessed war criminal.
In 1971, Lieutenant Junior-Grade went before a Senate committee investigating the Vietnam War. The war it wanted desperately to lose (at least, those lib/dem/soc/commies in Congress). Lt. JG. Kerry said the following about the ''witnesses'' of the Winter Soldier investigation –
....personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war....
Previous to this, he made the following statement on Meet the Press"
''There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones . I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages.''
Based on this information you have only two choices. First, that Kerry was telling the truth, in which case he is a war criminal. Second, that Kerry lied under oath about the ''atrocities'' of Vietnam, in which case he is a perjurer.
Question: Why would anybody want either type of person in the Oval Office in the first place?
Let’s examine what would happen if Kerry were (God Forbid!) elected president. Assuming he told the truth and he is a war criminal, that would mean that he would come under the aegis of the International Criminal Court. Since the leaders of nations are not exempt from its jurisdiction (see also: Milosevic, Slobodan) he could, theoretically, be indicted and arraigned for war crimes. I’m unaware of any statute of limitations on war crimes, so even 30+ years after the fact, we’d be in the unenviable position of having a leader of the free world standing in the dock while charge after charge was filed.
How about if Kerry lied? What would the effect be there? Well, it’d be similar to the effect of the Clinton years after he perjured himself. Here we would have the chief law enforcement officer of the nation in the position of someone who perverted the course of justice by lying under oath. Granted it wouldn’t be the same as lying under oath while in office, but nobody in the lib/dem/soc/commie side could ever argue that it was ''only about sex'' or that it ''didn’t matter.''
What brought us to this place? How did our country become so jaded, so morally degraded, to allow someone in power whose resume includes a choice of war criminal or perjurer? It would be easy to blame the persons who committed the crime, and blame them we should. But perhaps we should also blame those who allowed them to come to power.
J. Michael Straczynski, one of my favorite writers, posited an important set of thoughts in his career as a television writer and creator. As a Sci-Fi fan, it’s understandable to see how a futuristic setting allows a writer to speak on current events without the fear of censorship. Here is part of an exchange he used in ''The Exercise of Vital Powers'' episode of Babylon 5, which speaks loudly of today’s situation:
Edgars: How many people actually belonged to the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, the Jihad Party? A very small number. But there were always plenty of other people who were happy to do the work for them, and others afraid enough to let it happen.
Garibaldi: In order for them to take power, they’d need an army.
Edgars: You’re still laboring under the notion that people take power. Nobody takes power. They’re given power by the rest of us. Because we’re stupid or afraid or both.
When you consider what the DNC is selling – lies, half-truths, divisions and racism disguised as ''compassion,'' it makes us understand that we’ve gotten the government we deserve over the past six decades. However, it’s not solely their fault. The lib/dem/soc/commies have lied to us, true. Nevertheless, we, as a nation, have accepted those lies as the normal course of politics. We’ve accepted the divisions and racism and slander and fraud as ''business as usual.'' We’ve accepted political and moral corruption, and worse, we’ve voted for it because it sounded ''pretty'' or ''reasonable'' instead of accepting the hard and painful truths that would allow us to grow and prosper as a nation.
John Forbes Kerry is not fit for the presidency. He’s not fit for the Senate. He’s not fit for any public office. Don’t accept the spin anymore, folks. Don’t accept the lie. Don’t settle for less because you think it’s the best you can get. It’s not. You deserve better than Kerry. So does America.
You might think you've heard all the startling revelations about John Kerry's history from the new book, "Unfit for Command," by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi.
Think again.
As I finish reading this book, I continue to find – literally on every page – new information that stuns even me, someone who has watched John Kerry's career with skepticism and alarm for the last 33 years.
Take this, for instance.
On June 29, 1971, according to an FBI report, Kerry praised Vietnam's communist dictator Ho Chi Minh, comparing him to George Washington.
At the time, Kerry was serving as the point man for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The president of the organization was Al Hubbard, who claimed to be an Air Force captain who was severely injured during his service in Vietnam. It turned out Hubbard was a sergeant who never served in Vietnam. He did, however, as Kerry knew, serve the communist cause with great enthusiasm and distinction – making propaganda trips to Hanoi paid for by the Communist Party USA.
Kerry didn't distance himself from Hubbard even when the lies were uncovered. In fact, he rationalized them. Kerry didn't distance himself from Hubbard when he became aware, as an executive committee member of VVAW, that its actions were being coordinated and sponsored, in part, by the communists.
Furthermore, Kerry himself made two trips to Paris to meet with representatives of the enemy.
He was also present at VVAW steering committee meetings in which debates took place about assassinating three U.S. senators. Kerry, of course, did not report these crimes to any authorities. Kerry tried to say he had quit the organization before these meetings. Now he claims his memory is hazy about what took place – that he doesn't recall hearing any of these dire plots.
Of course, his fantasy about being in Cambodia during Christmas 1968 is "seared" in his memory banks. Yet, he has no recollection about his fellow executive committee members discussing murder plots.
Is it any wonder with that kind of track record that Kerry would tell extraordinary lies for 30 years about spending time in Cambodia on illegal missions? Is it any wonder he would tell extraordinary lies about atrocities by American troops? Is it any wonder that he would tell extraordinary lies about his own "heroics" on the battlefield?
What is a wonder is the fact that 33 years later Kerry has enough credibility left to make run for the presidency on a major party ticket.
I keep hearing other commentators talk about his honorable record of service in Vietnam. They must not be reading this book very carefully. They must not be listening to those with whom Kerry actually served. They must be listening only to Kerry's own public relations machine.
John Kerry dishonored America and the uniform of the U.S. Navy long before he got back to the states and betrayed his fellow servicemen with lies about atrocities.
According to nearly everyone he served with in Vietnam, Kerry was a self-serving malcontent from the day he arrived in Vietnam for his brief four-month visit. He was disgruntled. He avoided combat. He didn't obey orders. But he did go beyond the call of duty in the pursuit of one objective – seeking medals and commendations and a shortened stay in Vietnam.
It's way past time for my colleagues in the news media to join me in calling on Kerry to execute Standard Form 180, which would release to the public all his military and medical records for examination by the American people before Election Day. So far, he has not done so, despite the demands of more than 250 of his fellow Vietnam veterans.
This refusal continues even after Kerry made his Vietnam experience the very cornerstone of his campaign beginning with his acceptance speech at the convention.
If we're to believe Kerry's war experience somehow distinguishes him for consideration to be the next president, if we're to believe that record of achievement is so distinguished, if we're to believe the portrait painted at the convention is true, why would Kerry hesitate for even a moment to release his service records, to release his medical records and even his own journal and films from Vietnam for public inspection?
Vietnam POWs Say Kerry's Words and Deeds Were Used by Guards to Torture Them
John Kerry's bid to become commander in chief of wartime America has opened old wounds among some former Vietnam-era POWs who bristle over Kerry's antiwar activism and atrocity allegations during the Vietnam conflict.
Those activities and statements, pushed out of sight by a campaign that spotlights Kerry's service in Vietnam, were used by the POWs' North Vietnamese captors to sap the morale of prisoners and U.S. troops still in the field in South Vietnam, former POWs told United Press International.
"They were always talking about that [antiwar demonstrations], and they picked right up on Kerry's throw-away line, 'Don't be the last man to die in a lost cause, or die for a lost cause,'" said Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who spent 2,284 days as a prisoner. "They repeated that incessantly. ... They used these photographs and inputs, voice tapes, whatever, from these peace people to try to convince us the whole country had turned antiwar and we were showing a very bad attitude and would never go home."
Jim Warner, a prisoner of the North Vietnamese in the Hoa Lo prison complex -- known to U.S. servicemen as the Hanoi Hilton -- remembers Kerry. He became acquainted with him, he said, when a North Vietnamese guard and interrogator the prisoners nicknamed "Boris" took Warner to the quiz shack in the complex's punishment camp called "Skid Row" in May 1971.
During a four-hour propaganda and harassment session, Boris pulled papers from his pocket and gave them to Warner to think about, he said. Some were clippings from a leftist newspaper in the United States. The other was a typewritten transcript of Kerry's testimony before a U.S. Senate panel in which he repeated allegations of U.S. troops routinely committing atrocities, attacking the war and saying communism was not a threat in Vietnam.
The atrocity allegations were garnered from the so-called Winter Soldier Investigation in Detroit in early 1971, in which actress and activist Jane Fonda and Kerry, a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), were involved.
At that event people claiming to have seen combat in Vietnam alleged committing atrocities -- rape, cutting off of ears and heads, murdering women and children -- on a routine basis and with the knowledge of their superiors. Many of the allegations proved false or could not be documented, and the veracity and identities of many witnesses later came into question.
"It was the stuff about the Winter Soldier," Warner said. "The paper he showed me, the statements from John Kerry, were separate. And the stuff that was supposed to be from Kerry was a typewritten transcript of a few pages, but he was pointing to the statements. I can't quote the statements, but essentially they were the same as those being played now on talk shows of his testimony in front of the Senate."
Warner was in his Marine Corps F-4B aircraft when he was shot down over North Vietnam on Oct. 13, 1967, and was held for 1,979 days. He told UPI that in that confrontation with the North Vietnamese officer he was told "these statements [by Kerry] ... were proof I deserved to be punished. I was pretty sure they weren't going to do anything, but in the summer of '69 they had spent four months trying to get information out of me, and I still had the memory of my mistreatment -- sleep deprivation, leg irons, a cement box in the sun [and feet and ankles swollen from chains digging into the flesh].
"The memory of that was still pretty fresh in my mind, and I was extremely uneasy. Every time he mentioned [the papers], this officer said I committed crimes, that this war was illegal. I just had no idea. ... All along they told us they would execute us for our 'crimes.'"
Particularly galling for Warner was his parents' brief participation at an antiwar event in Detroit where they said their son was a prisoner and they hoped he would be released. Warner said he never spoke to his parents about that after his return -- it just wasn't something talked about -- but his sisters had told him Fonda and Kerry were involved in getting his parents to appear, an appearance he believes lent a measure of respectability to the event.
Warner said Kerry and VVAW, which had staged large demonstrations in Washington, often were mentioned in the radio broadcasts that played incessantly over the camp's loudspeakers.
"On our [former POW] listserve there are many people who mention hearing Kerry on Radio Hanoi and how much that infuriated them," Warner said, "but I don't know of anyone else confronted like that."
Cordier, now living in Texas, doesn't recall Kerry's name specifically being used in interrogations, propaganda broadcasts by Hanoi Hannah (Radio Vietnam) or during "attitude checks" -- political indoctrination sessions -- since Kerry was then not a household name. But he said he does remember the North Vietnamese using the so-called Winter Soldier investigations and photographs of war veterans, both real and imposters, throwing military medals over the White House fence.
Paul Galanti, a former Navy pilot who spent 2,432 days in captivity and worked on the 2000 primary campaign of fellow former POW Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), also remembers the broadcasts.
"It was propaganda. They stopped torturing us after Ho Chi Minh died pretty much, but all that stuff we got banged on -- they wanted us to say and to confess to war crimes and killing babies and all this other stuff," he said. "They kept talking about Vietnam Veterans Against the War, they had seen the right way and blah, blah, blah, and they were on our side, they had crossed over to the peoples' side and all that stuff."
Galanti said he didn't know Kerry's name then, although he had seen a newspaper photograph while in captivity that showed someone who looked like Lurch (a character in The Addams Family television show in the mid-sixties). Like others, they had only heard newscasts about a former Navy lieutenant and the antiwar movement. "I figured out who it was later," he said.
Cordier, Warner and Galanti said although the antiwar protest propaganda was sometimes disheartening, the North Vietnamese failed in their attempt to use it to break the prisoners' will.
"It didn't make us want to give up, it just made us feel discouraged that there were people who felt that way about us," said Warner, who works as a corporate attorney.
Cordier, Galanti and Warner are dead set against Kerry becoming president. Cordier says it's just not Kerry's antiwar past, but his record till now, including his voting against funds for troops in Iraq.
"The measure of a person's character is their whole history up until the present," he said. "It's not what they say they believe or what they'll do when president or all these platitudes. ... And he has consistently taken the side of our enemies and other countries that oppose us or have a different viewpoint."
Joe Crecca, who was shot down over North Vietnam in 1966 and held for 2,280 days, won't be supporting Kerry either, accusing him of having "betrayed those who served with him by falsely accusing them of war crimes and a host of other things as soon as he returned to the U.S.A."
Retired Adm. Jeremiah Denton -- held 2,766 days -- helps lead Vets4Bush. Everett Alvarez, who at 3,113 days was the longest-held prisoner of the North Vietnamese, would say only that he would be considered partisan since he had been a Reagan administration appointee.
McCain, who is campaigning for Bush, also was a prisoner at the Hanoi Hilton and counts himself as a friend of Kerry. Calls to his office for comment for this article were not returned. However, in 1973, shortly after his release from the Hanoi Hilton, McCain had a strong negative opinion on prominent antiwar activists, although he did not know Kerry by name at the time.
The Kerry campaign, asked to comment, sent UPI an e-mail message that included two quotes from a Oct. 21, 1996, New Yorker article entitled "A Friendship that Ended the War" and asked they be included.
"John McCain has never changed his mind about Kerry's participation in that antiwar demonstration, but he has changed his mind about the man," the article stated. "When I asked McCain if he would be campaigning for [former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld, who ran against Kerry for Senate], he shook his head, an emphatic no. 'I simply would not do such a thing. I couldn't do that. ... I'm surprised you would ask. ... Going to campaign against John Kerry is something I wouldn't consider.'"
The second quote from the same New Yorker article the Kerry campaign wanted cited was from Kerry in the same interview: "'We started talking about the war, and Vietnam, prison -- what happened to him and all that. ... Nothing had brought us together before, and we just talked. We talked about what I had done.' Kerry was referring to the episode that McCain had denounced in the 1984 campaign. 'But by now it wasn't a big hurdle,' he went on. 'To his credit, he didn't make it one. He made it clear that he had moved beyond all that. ... The war was a tough period for a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. Both of us decided to put all that kind of stuff behind us, and work together at something.'"
During the Democratic National Convention in Boston last week, a number of anti-Kerry veterans' groups participated in demonstrations opposing Kerry's campaign for the nation's top job, and other groups have more demonstration plans in the works.
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth -- former Navy patrol-boat crews, including former comrades and a crewmate of Kerry in Vietnam -- publicly came out in opposition to the senator from Massachusetts last May and plan to launch a television ad attacking his candidacy later this month.
Kerry, meanwhile, is attempting to organize other veterans into a reliable voting bloc. His campaign works with several people who served with Kerry during his four-month stay in Vietnam as testimonials to his service. In July Kerry told CBS's Dan Rather that he was "very proud" of having been a leader of the antiwar movement but admitted some of his language may have been too strong.
Richard Tomkins is a White House correspondent for Insight's sister news service, United Press International
posted on August 19, 2004 03:47:18 PM
Kerry put his life on the line and fought for his country and came back to find out that the government's reasons for going to Vietnam was all lies, he spoke out against it. That is a mark of a true patriot unlike AWOL Bush the liar..
posted on August 19, 2004 08:10:03 PM1) Judicial Watch hasn't called for an investigation into his actions, LIKE THEY HAVE FOR KERRY
Judicial Watch would never investigate Bush, Judicial Watch is a right wing nut job outfit.
(2) Pres Bush is not a SELF CONFESSED WAR CRIMINAL LIKE KERRY.
No,Bush denies everything. But Bush is a military deserter and his Iraq invaision may just qualify him as war criminal.
(3) Pres Bush never aided and abetted the North Vietnamise LIKE KERRY
While Kerry was killing communists and being wounded, Bush was AWOL. SO WHO AIDED AND ABETTED THE NORTH VIETNAMESE ? THE NORTH VIETNAMESE PROBABLY WISHED ALL AMERICAN SOLDIERS WERE LIKE BUSH.
posted on August 20, 2004 08:11:21 AMKerry: Bush lets attack ads do 'dirty work' Democrat calls on president to denounce commercials.
Yes....doesn't feel so good when the situation is reversed. But was fun and they haven't been/weren't complaining when the 527 groups were doing the same to this President.
So we could say:
President Bush: kerry lets attack ads do his 'dirty work'. Didn't hear dems whining about it then.
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"One thing is for sure: the extremists have faith in our weakness. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us." --Tony Blair
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"The War on Terror will not be won until America is united. And as long as Democrats target the Bush administration -- not the terrorists -- as the enemy, we are in trouble." --Oliver North
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
posted on August 20, 2004 08:29:49 AM
(1)Judicial Watch would never investigate Bush, Judicial Watch is a right wing nut job outfit.
Nope...not a true statement. Judicial Watch HAS investigated the Bush administration and even won cases against them. They are NOT a right wing outfit and a simple google search will prove that.
(2)But Bush is a military deserter and his Iraq invaision may just qualify him as war criminal.
Nope...facts are he was given an honorable discharge. Can't change those FACTS no matter what you continue to say.
(3)Bush was AWOL. SO WHO AIDED AND ABETTED THE NORTH VIETNAMESE?
The Armed Forces don't give honorable discharges to those who went AWOL. It's just a dem alligation that they've NEVER been able to prove.
And it was kerry who aided and abetted our enemies. And they have honored him for his role in convincing American to withdraw from VN. They have stated it was because of his anti-war work, during time of war....that was the major contributing cause of them not having to give up. kerry helped them....not his own country. It was kerry who called our democracy a FARCE...not this President.
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"One thing is for sure: the extremists have faith in our weakness. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us." --Tony Blair
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"The War on Terror will not be won until America is united. And as long as Democrats target the Bush administration -- not the terrorists -- as the enemy, we are in trouble." --Oliver North
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
