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 Bear1949
 
posted on October 6, 2004 12:45:18 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) - House Republicans sought to quash a persistent Internet rumor that President Bush wants to reinstate the draft if he is re-elected, engineering an overwhelming vote Tuesday killing legislation that would do just that.

Republicans accused Democrats of feeding the rumor mill to scare young voters and their parents into voting against Bush.

"This campaign is a baseless, malevolent concoction of the Democratic Party and everyone in this chamber knows it," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas.

The House voted 402-2 to defeat the draft bill offered last year by Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

Even he urged Democrats to vote against the bill, and charged Republicans were cynically trying to use the measure to escape election-season questions about the war in Iraq.

Just two lawmaker, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., and Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., struck off on their own and voted for the measure.

"We are in a war, and not only a small segment of the population should fight in that war," said Murtha.

The specter of a wartime military draft like that of the Vietnam era has lingered around the presidential campaign for the past few weeks, fueled by an e-mail driven rumor mill and a campaign by Rock the Vote, a nonpartisan group that seeks to boost voting among young people.

The White House on Tuesday accused opponents of President Bush of trying to scare voters with false rumors.

Much of the Internet gossip circling the World Wide Web has suggested that Republicans, including the president, have a plan to surreptitiously bring back the draft in a second Bush term. Democrats say worries about it are spurring voter registration on college campuses and among people in their 20s in urban areas.

"Everywhere they go on the Internet, all they see is the draft, the draft, the draft," said Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash. "The Rock the Vote effort among kids in this country is afire and they (Republicans) know it. They're trying their best to tamp down this fire."

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., called the talk of a draft "the hoax of the year."

The Bush administration has strongly denied any plan to reinstate the draft, but the denials have not killed the rumor.

"There are some who have tried to bring this up as a scare tactic and that is highly unfortunate," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Tuesday. "The president does not believe we need a draft and he's made that repeatedly clear."

Speaking to Iowa voters Monday, Bush said, We will not have a draft so long as I am president of the United States."

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has suggested the draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect Bush.

Kerry said his plan for Iraq, which calls for a summit and for allies to share a greater part of the burden, would not need a military draft.

Campaigning in Iowa on Tuesday, Kerry told reporters, "I've never said they're going to have a draft. I've said I don't know what they're going to do. I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to pursue a policy that guarantees we don't have to have a draft."

At a time that the Army is already struggling to meet recruitment targets, Kerry has proposed boosting the U.S. military by tens of thousands of troops, though he argues any increases in Iraq would come from foreign allies.

Rock the Vote said it is raising the draft issue because the presidential candidates haven't addressed it.

"This is not an Internet rumor," said Rock the Vote spokesman Jay Strell. "Young people in America deserve an honest and open debate about the possibility of a draft. Neither side has offered up what they're going to do to meet the current and future military needs."

Strell said his group's Web site has seen a huge spike in recent days in downloads of voter registration forms, now up to about 40,000 a day.

The draft legislation was introduced by Rangel, a fierce critic of both the Iraq war and the Bush administration.

"I would not advise anybody that's running for election as a Democrat to vote for this," said Rangel, who contended Republicans abused parliamentary standards to rush a vote to the floor without hearings or discussion. "It's a prostitution of the legislative process," he said.

The measure would require two years of military or civilian service of men and women aged 18-26.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist ruled out consideration of a companion bill in that chamber, saying, "To the leadership of the United States Senate, it's a non-issue and it's one that's not going to be addressed."


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041006/D85HK16O0.html


Hey, hey
Ho, ho
Kerry - sign the 1-8-0

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to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on October 6, 2004 05:54:36 AM
Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa.


Hey peepa, see who actually is voting for the draft.... LOL
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...

Re-Elect President Bush... the only true choice.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 6, 2004 10:10:14 AM new
That's one more false rumor taken off the table that the dems started in order to scare some into voting for kerry.




 
 profe51
 
posted on October 6, 2004 10:38:52 AM new
Um, I don't see how this will dispel any rumors about Bush reinstating the draft. The rumor I've been hearing is about his administration's plans to bring back the draft after the election and has nothing to do with this bill.
Rangel introduced this bill in Jan. of 2003 as a way of demonstrating the seriousness of going to war. Nobody has ever taken it seriously as a real attempt to bring back the draft.
In Rangel's own words, he proffered this bill:

in hopes that those people who make the decisions to go to war, to attack Iraq, would be better influenced against it if they had kids that would be placed in harm's way, or if they felt closer to the shared sacrifice that we often times talk about.

Seems to me like this doesn't have a lot to do with Bush bringing back the draft.

 
 rustygumbo
 
posted on October 6, 2004 11:24:57 AM new
It is nothing more than politicking, and even these neocons on here should know that. Hmmmm. I recall the Republicans trying to get that Gay Marriage Amendment through just to call attention to Democrat votes for or against it. Nothing but typical games and strategy up on the hill.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on October 6, 2004 12:51:54 PM new
The Selective Service phones were ringing off the hook....because of this rumor the dems started. Even as of last week kerry was saying [again paraphrasing here] "I won't start a draft." Played right into the hands of the internet lie being passed all around. Everyone on blogs was speaking about it.


The House passing this bill WILL, not matter what the dems say, play a large part in putting this rumor to rest. It proves that not only the Republicans are against it so were all but TWO democrats.


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