posted on October 7, 2004 03:13:50 PM
From the Detroit News.
Oct 7, 5:54 PM EDT
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Bush-bashing "Fahrenheit 9/11" director Michael Moore is bringing his 60-city Slacker Uprising Tour to Utah, a famously Republican state.
It's really a major offense - a slap in the face to the citizens of this valley," asserts Kay Anderson, a real estate broker who, waving a cashier's check, offered student leaders at Utah Valley State College $25,000 to rescind Moore's invitation.
We won't be bribed," said Jim Bassi, student body president, who said the brouhaha guaranteed Moore a sold-out performance. "We spent $40,000 on Barbara Bush four years ago, and nobody raised an eyebrow about that."
posted on October 7, 2004 06:07:18 PM
He is also coming to PSU in the future. The college students had fundraisers to raise the money. I may go see him. I consider him a hero for exposing the truth.
posted on October 7, 2004 07:34:29 PM
If you have not seen the film, do so.
You will get an eye-opening view of what some in the military really think of Bush.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 06:02:52 AM
"I consider him a hero for exposing the truth."
An incredibly stupid statement to make considering his films have been picked apart virtually frame by frame and found to contain little in the way of facts.
Why don't you just say he's your hero because he has the same "theories" you do and has made a fortune at it.
posted on October 8, 2004 06:49:30 AM
You may review the well documented facts contained in that film here.
From the opening scene with Bush reading My Pet Goat after being informed several times that the U.S. was under attack - to the scenes of poor soldiers being used as fodder, killed and wounded in a war with the wrong country without a plan, the frames that you mention are all true.
posted on October 8, 2004 07:24:42 AM
Looks like Kay Anderson has a typical republican mind set. She thinks she can buy this election. A good charity could use her money but no, for strictly self-serving reasons she wants to block the truth about her failed leaders. I am betting Kay is in that over $200,000 tax bracket.
Way to go Jim Bassi who refused Kay Anderson's bribe. And thanks to miss Kay the Micheal Moore appearance will be sold out.
Kay and other republicans like her theme song should be STAIR WAY TO HEAVEN by LED ZEPPELIN
posted on October 8, 2004 08:12:43 AM
I suppose the mother whose son died fighting in Iraq, the soldier who appeared with Moore in the film saying why he opposed the war, and the soldiers who lost their legs and have vowed to vote for Kerry are all lying.
There is no hiding the truth now because both Bush and Cheney have admitted Iraq did not have WMD which was their entire basis for going to war.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 08:16:38 AMwhich was their entire basis for going to war.
Another untrue statement by logansdad.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on October 8, 2004 08:40:30 AM
For anyone who has seen or heard about this [non] documentary that's filled with all kinds of distortions, you might just want to read all the Fifty-nine deceits that are in it.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on October 8, 2004 08:46:33 AM
It was actual video footage of george bush and his brother jeb (or Bubba) laughing and smirking about having Florida taken care of a few weeks before the election.
It was actual video footage of bush sitting for 7 minutes in a classroom staring, waiting for all the planes to hit before he left......actual video footage.
Besides, you can C&P all the misinformation you want but people coming out of that movie BELIEVE it! And that's what counts
Besides, the bush administration is built on lies......why should anyone else be held to the truth when our great leader and his puppeteers can lie all over the place.
posted on October 8, 2004 08:53:55 AM
"It was actual video footage of bush sitting for 7 minutes in a classroom staring, waiting for all the planes to hit before he left......actual video footage."
This is exactly what I am talking about: catering to imbeciles.
"It was actual video footage of bush sitting for 7 minutes in a classroom"
This is a fact.
"waiting for all the planes to hit before he left......actual video footage."
posted on October 8, 2004 08:56:43 AM
So desquirrel, oh holy non-idiot, WHY did our great, strong, macho, decisive leader sit there staring off into space.......???????
posted on October 8, 2004 09:09:46 AM
PBS had a very interesting 2hr documentary about 9/11, filled with all kinds of, you know, facts.
Part of what was going on was locating major gov. officials, launching Doomsday aircraft, deciding where to go, etc. All of which is pretty much automatic. When everything was set and the airfield secured, the President left. Very little mystery and certainly no theories involved. At least according to Ann Compton, the reporter who was THERE.
posted on October 8, 2004 09:24:08 AM
Oh WELL, desquirrel, it was ANN COMPTON! Why didn't you say so....ANN COMPTON, why SHE knows everything!
So sorry, I relied on the words and videos of someone who WASN'T ANN COMPTON.
posted on October 8, 2004 10:33:29 AM
crowfarm, I am not sure but isn't Ann Compton that woman that has a horse face??? If I am right don't worry she is just another discounted Bush supporter lying her horse lips off for Bush.
posted on October 8, 2004 10:58:13 AM
Funny her 'about me' page doesn't mention her face. [bigpeepa's unbecoming comment = ...isn't Ann Compton that woman that has a horse face???]
It just states her qualifications and accomplishments. Your comment about her only makes YOU look so small, bigpeepa.
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From: The Washington Speakers Bureau -
About Ann Compton
In customized talks as timely as today's-headlines, Ann Compton delivers an unparalleled front-row view of history-making events.
Groundbreaking Experience:
The first woman assigned to cover the White House by a television network, Ann Compton has covered seven presidential campaigns and world-changing events ranging from the Cold War to the Internet revolution.
A Historic Ride:
On September 11th, she was the only reporter allowed to remain on Air Force One with President Bush. Recipient of an Emmy Award, she recounts those moments and the grave challenges that day presented to America and its president.
Expert Analysis of Election 2004:
A former presidential debate panelist and political reporter, Compton provides a wealth of insight into Election 2004 and the current political climate.
Dynamic Discussion:
Compton's lively and flexible talks leave time for a news-conference style Q & A session, with the audience asking the tough questions.
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on October 8, 2004 11:03:07 AM
OH Thank GAWD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!linda is here to help us all out with the burning issue of the day "who is Ann Compton?"
Doesn't prove a thing and
again
I don't care.
AND, by the way, weren't the neocons and Republicans lipping off about Kerry's looks and horse face?
posted on October 8, 2004 11:10:10 AMFifty-nine deceits that are in it.
[i]34. The various quotes about Bush administration cooperation with the September 11 Commission have been resequenced
to create a false impression.[/i]
It has already been shown, Bush was originally against the 9/11 commission.
[i]35. John Ashcroft didn’t really lose a Senate election to a “dead guy.” Mel Carnahan died in a plane crash a few weeks
before the election, and the Missouri Governor had promised to appoint Carnahan’s widow Jean Carnahan if voters pulled the lever for Mel Carnahan.[/i]
Just another view. If you look at the facts John Ashcroft lost the "dead guy" or at least the "dead guy's wife" who was not even running.
[i]47. A humorous sequence making fun of tiny countries in the Iraq liberation Coalition does not even mention the major
countries in the Coalition, such as the U.K., Australia, Italy, and Japan.[/i]
Well it is funny when you start to think that Bush said we have a HUGE number of countries in the Coalition force, but yet the number includes all these little countries that you probably never heard of. How many of these little countries actually helped the US in the Iraq war other than siding with Bush?
51. Bush once opposed renewing a special bonus of $75/ month for soldiers an “imminent danger zones.” Moore claims that Bush proposed cutting combat soldiers’ pay by 1/3; but a soldier's pay and benefits is over $27,000 per year, even at low enlisted grades.
Soldier's make $27,000 a year while the most of the workers sent to Iraq for the reconstruction effort are making $75,000 or higher. The soldiers are protecting the reconstruction efforts and getting paid a lot less. Now that makes sense to me.
53. Moore claims that only one Congressman has a child in Iraq. Actually, two do. (Democratic Senator Tim Johnson of S.D., and Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter of California.)Also, John Ashcroft has a son on a naval ship in the Persian Gulf.
Big misrepresentation of the facts here folks. One instead of two.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 11:46:38 AM
I would guess that neither Linda K or desquirrel haven't seen the movie. They state their opinions and give us neocon links to websites that are anti Michael Moore. They are afraid to watch something that may conflict with their own views and agenda.
The facts remain, yes, Michael Moore is obviously against Bush and will do what is necessary in his view to remove the evil jack@ss from office. I am doing the exact same thing myself. The movie was biased towards his beliefs, however, claiming that the movie was nothing but a lie, and disclaiming everything in it shows these neocon as what they are. Uneducated, closed minded lemmings who are afraid to see an alternative view of the world around us.
If the threat of WMD attack is, in fact, Bush's primary concern, then he would surely pay the greatest attention to the greatest threat of WMD usage against the United States, and deploy available U.S. resources -- troops, dollars and diplomacy -- accordingly. But this is not what the president is doing.
North Korea and Pakistan pose greater WMD threats to the United States than Iraq for several reasons. Each possesses a much bigger WMD arsenal. Pakistan has several dozen nuclear warheads along with missiles and planes capable of delivering them hundreds of miles away; it is also suspected of having chemical weapons. North Korea is thought to possess sufficient plutonium to produce one to two nuclear devices along with the capacity to manufacture several more; it also has a large chemical weapons stockpile and a formidable array of ballistic missiles.
Iraq, by contrast, possesses no nuclear weapons today and is thought to be several years away from producing any, even under the best of circumstances.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 12:16:25 PM
"I would guess that neither Linda K or desquirrel haven't seen the movie. They state their opinions and give us neocon links to websites"
Wrong stupid.
If Michael Moore says I gave you 10 apples, and I did not, it is not a fact. It has nothing to do with opinions. A "fact" has nothing to do with opinions. That's what you people simply can't understand. And those "stupid" "anti-Moore" web sites you like to mention, for the most part say: "Moore said this...." and here's what really happened.
Moore himself was on the Dennis Miller show arguing with someone who was pointing out these little "problems" and said they were "his OPINION". So stop quoting the Gospel according to Michael as if it were anything but a fairy-tale. Even if it is your very, very, favorite fairy tale.
PS: Ann Compton is the ABC Washington Correspondent (for many years).
posted on October 8, 2004 12:20:07 PM
desquirrel- your the moron who thinks saying it is so makes it so. Did you see the movie? I noticed you didn't fill us in on that.
posted on October 8, 2004 12:56:07 PM
crowfarm, you must remember who Ann Compton is by now. I replied to YOUR question about who Ann Compton was by saying she is that washed up discredited right wing writer with the long horse face. If you have ever seen her or read anything she writes. I am sure you will remember who she is by my description.
posted on October 8, 2004 01:24:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken your state of confusion also includes mistaking Ann Compton for Ann Coulter. But hey, keep that nose to the grindstone, ever seeking the next conspiracy.
posted on October 8, 2004 01:44:05 PM
Funny how some Republicans jump over Michael Moore about stretching the truth a little but when George Bush "stretches the truth" about Iraq's WMD it is OK.
How many people died because Michael Moore "stretched the truth" compared to Bush?
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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On This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld declares: "the area… that coalition forces control… happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."
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posted on October 8, 2004 01:59:06 PM
This is why you are so confused:
Michael Moore knowingly disseminating false statements is not "stretching the truth".
Bush "stretching the truth" is a theory parroted by lefties to isolate the President's acceptance of intelligence reports from their own politicians who voted for the attack.
