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 Meya
 
posted on August 1, 2000 05:18:30 AM
...should a Manifesto be? I am thinking about writing one, but am unsure of how to begin.

Do I have to live in a cabin in the woods with no running water or electricity for it to be meaningful?
 
 LadyofLake
 
posted on August 1, 2000 05:20:04 AM
IMHO depends what your manifesto is about. If it's about leaving chat boards forever, never to return, it would seem hard to post on AW without electricity to run your computer.



 
 HartCottageQuilts
 
posted on August 1, 2000 06:01:39 AM
Technically, LadyofLake, you're right, of course. However, if you're sufficiently incoherent and wrap your argument in enough quasi-mystical rhetoric, a substantial portion of the population will never notice the discrepancy. And when others have the temerity to point it out, the former group will rush to your defense.

I say, go for it!



 
 mybiddness
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:15:44 AM
The cabin in the woods thing is over-rated. Just pour your heart out from the comfort of your own home. Make it as long as it takes and be sure to throw in some high dramatics - dirty words and a few dangling participles.



 
 stockticker
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:32:18 AM
I like reading Manifestos which have a definite FLOUNCE to them.

Irene
 
 pareau
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:45:31 AM
Brava, Meya! Mephisto by query about Mephisto protocol, with intimations of the Kaczynskiian. Its very framing--a question rather than a statement--invokes the essential query of all Mephistos: "Shall I stay or shall I go?" Solicitation for assistance to the group is brilliant: One must enable, or turn ones back. Engagement in the guise of departure, the essential Mephisto Message. And all with such economy of language.

I defy anyone to top this.

- Pareau

 
 KatyD
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:58:23 AM
Pareau, I finally figured out your RL id! You were my Philosophy prof at State! By the way, I deserved an A in your class, but you were so hard to please.

Meya, the best manifesto is short and sweet. Something like I'm outta here, never to return, ya jackals! Unless I decide to come back...

KatyD

 
 Meya
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:01:13 AM
Wow Pareau, did I say/do all that? Perhaps a Clueless Manifesto?
 
 krs
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:08:32 AM
Nah. Strive for mystery, for remembrance.
Like this:

I am ever now and evermore, that there may no longer be then.
I am here. There. All places. None. I am the elf in the trees. I am the mermaid of your peach. I am the water's wash of flame's desire. See my quest in the words you hear, in the songs of the candle, in the wail of
the chinook. in the thunder, in the rain, in the sky. Understand; in lightning there is wisdom, though none that you can catch.

I change. I speak of change. I speak of remaining. I speak. I change how I speak. I speak how I change. I speak when I change.

I wish to snatch a moment in the firelight, a moment warm and dancing.

I wish. More than anything. I wish.


To leave.

 
 Meya
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:13:59 AM
"I'm not worthy"!!!!!
 
 Meya
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:13:59 AM
Yikes...multiple manifestos...
[ edited by Meya on Aug 1, 2000 09:14 AM ]
 
 LadyofLake
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:14:44 AM
wow.. such eloquence krs. I am suitably impressed.

Mephisto was the devil pareau, are you sure you want to recommend Mephisto-type statements?

and now I'm outta here, for at least a while...

 
 pareau
 
posted on August 1, 2000 09:27:48 AM
"Mephisto" is my little ploy on words, that's all.

krs, that is so new agey, what a fresh direction.
I change. I speak of change. I speak of remaining. I speak. I change how I speak. I speak how I change. I speak when I change.

The NYC version:
I speak. I speak to seek your spare change. I speak of the change you have remaining. It is time to change the spare. Hand me that wrench.

 
 pastorleon
 
posted on August 1, 2000 10:08:52 AM
A bird, two birds, three birds.
Caughing, caughing, caughing.

Mystic vibrations turn purple in light
Many are those who ponder their plight

One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish
old fish, young fish, middle fish, new fish

I came, I saw, I tarried in Paris
But when I grow up I want to be like Barry (philosophy is his bag) Barris.

IMHO Philosophy like accounting, is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

The rev is smoking his pipe if needed.


 
 stockticker
 
posted on August 1, 2000 10:11:42 AM
Rev, sometimes accounting is more like a dung heap.

Irene
 
 Antiquary
 
posted on August 1, 2000 10:56:04 AM
Hello - goodbye!

The purist approach...besides, a favorite strategy is to elicit as many sympathetic responses as possible. To facilitate this strategy begin with as little concrete detail as possible, unless you can envision a highly dramatic but sufficiently terse opener.

 
 krs
 
posted on August 1, 2000 11:10:34 AM
Hello - goodbye!

Would that it were true.

 
 Antiquary
 
posted on August 1, 2000 11:15:14 AM
"

 
 LadyofLake
 
posted on August 1, 2000 06:47:02 PM
glad you stayed Meya

 
 Shadowcat
 
posted on August 1, 2000 07:19:23 PM
Since I detest long goodbyes, I've thought about the kind of manifesto I would pen. It would have to be succint, yet get my point and my feelings about the situation across with bone-jarring clarity.

So-I think I would find a one-fingered salute gif and caption it "MANIFEST THIS!"

Or else I'd simply disappear into the night...





 
 krs
 
posted on August 1, 2000 07:44:02 PM
Or as Bill Clinton puts it....



 
 pareau
 
posted on August 1, 2000 07:48:36 PM
Try Wayne. Bill's not allowed around power tools.

 
 krs
 
posted on August 1, 2000 07:57:26 PM
Wayne took the picture. And...here's another manifesto:



 
 pareau
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:08:01 PM
Wow, krs, great hair.

 
 LadyofLake
 
posted on August 1, 2000 08:15:11 PM
Does that come with sticky tape on it krs?


 
 
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