bigpeepa
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posted on March 9, 2005 08:40:17 PM new
Below are the votes so far of an on going poll on AOL about Gas prices.
Who do you blame for high gas prices?
The Bush administration 42%
Oil companies 38%
Other 9%
Congress 7%
Gas stations 2%
No one 2%
How much do gas prices affect your driving habits?
A lot 37%
Somewhat 33%
A little 16%
Not at all 13%
Total Votes: 274,549
Note on Poll Results
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Libra63
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posted on March 9, 2005 08:52:02 PM new
See I knew you would be the 2nd to post high gas prices. I had you beat by a couple of days and predicted that you could come in and complain.
Well let me explain something. Polls have nothing to do with what you posted because each state has their own gas tax. Ours is the 2nd highest in the country only Hawaii has higher. Next I live on a I94 corridor. One of the highest traffic systems in the country. We are one of two of the fortunate ones that have to use reformulated gasoline which is happening as we speak. Some small area in California is another one. Do you know what it takes for a refinery to make reformulated gas? Well I will let you search that since you are so good as searching.
Now why aren't you complaining about the energy crisis that the companies have created themselves. High gas bills, high electrical bills. No you do your best in trying to find something wrong with President Bush and guess what he is in office for another 3 1/2 years so get over it. Complain all you want it is not going to change things.
Now guess what you will have to charge republicans 4x the price of your antiques and I am sure you won't be selling much...
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replaymedia
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posted on March 9, 2005 09:47:05 PM new
Democrats are at a loss when it comes to this problem. They have a choice of:
A) Bush went to war for oil, hence the lower prices.
B) Bush didn't go to war for oil, hence the higher prices.
They cannot complain about gas prices without conceding on the bigger point (in their eyes).
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profe51
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posted on March 9, 2005 09:50:36 PM new
Now guess what you will have to charge republicans 4x the price of your antiques and I am sure you won't be selling much...
There aren't any complaints in Peepa's post...all he did was post poll results.
What a cheap shot.
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Libra63
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posted on March 9, 2005 10:09:46 PM new
No profe maybe you weren't here last year when he started the thread about the high gas prices blaming the Republicans. Of course you didn't read the heading of the thread. Who's to blame for high gas prices. what did you think he meant. Posting the results so he can get a rise out of someone.
Don't you know bigpeepa yet....
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parklane64
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posted on March 9, 2005 10:10:27 PM new
Yeah..............Riiiight.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 10, 2005 05:45:55 AM new
Such a cheap shot is one of their few pitiful defences left when their repertoire of lies fails. Soon, one may come bebopping out of nowhere with a sob story to divert attention from the topic. Do they need to be wounded to make a point?
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logansdad
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posted on March 10, 2005 06:36:46 AM new
Who's to blame for high gas prices.
In my opinion it is a combination of the politicians and the oil industries/car manufacturers - car manufacturers not wanting to produce more fuel efficient cars and the government giving into the demands of big business instead of doing more to help the consumers.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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Bush will fix Social Security just like he has fixed Osama Bin Laden and Iraq. Bush can't be trusted to run this country and you want to trust him with your retirement?
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fenix03
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posted on March 10, 2005 06:42:17 AM new
Interesting poll. Last time the prices went up everyone tried to blame it on the Saudi's. Then finally the word went out that there was no shortage and all the prices were falsley inflated by the oil companies in order to boost their profits.
Now somehow the samething happens and the administrations fault?
Our society has a dangerously short memory.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 07:42:27 AM new
OPEC's acting secretary-general, Adnan Shihab-Eldin, is quoted in some press reports as predicting oil will trade between $50 to $60 a barrel for the next two years before rising to $80 a barrel.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2005-03-07-csm-gas_x.htm
Think they're high now....just wait.
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Who's to blame....according to peepa? Of course, this President. We all KNOW that if kerry had won gas prices would be sooo much lower. 
And the profe accuses Libra of a cheap shot....but I haven't seen him accuse peepa of the same all the times he's done the same. It's that double standard the left allows.
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the ol' helen says:
Do they need to be wounded to make a point?
I'd ask, "Did YOU helen, when you spoke of all your 'other' daughters problems?" Where YOU using it to make a point? How very shameful for YOU of all people to pretend differently.
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bigpeepa
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posted on March 10, 2005 07:52:23 AM new
Good Morning to Libra63 and others.
The question for AOL's poll was "WHO'S TO BLAME FOR HIGH GAS PRICES" so I used those words for my heading. Then I posted the on going poll results. Nothing more or nothing less.
I will continually post information for all to read. Much of the information I will post will show that often this White House is not doing what it said it was going to do during its reelection campaign. Other Posts will be general views and information for voters to think about.
I also realize that some of my posts will not be to the liking of some readers. If those readers feel I posted incorrectly then PROVE IT.
I often say take the time to get truly informed and then trust yourself.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 08:02:18 AM new
There's no need for worry about a 'poll' from AOL users. Weren't their polls very wrong on just who would win this election? I believe they were.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 10, 2005 08:43:27 AM new
Remember when some people were led to believe that the Iraq war would lead to lower gas prices? The truth of course is that the war is essentially corporate welfare paid for by American and Brittish taxpayers.
Pre war propaganda....
"The world's biggest oil bonanza in recent memory
may be just around the corner, giving U.S. oil
companies huge profits and American consumers
cheap gasoline for decades to come.
"There already is a stampede, with the Russians,
French and Italians already lined up," said Lawrence
Goldstein, president of the Petroleum Industry
Research Foundation, a New York think tank funded
by large oil companies.
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kiara
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posted on March 10, 2005 08:57:32 AM new
And the profe accuses Libra of a cheap shot....but I haven't seen him accuse peepa of the same all the times he's done the same. It's that double standard the left allows.
Just because someone comments on an occasional 'cheap shot' as they see it, why should anyone else expect them to monitor and comment on what others perceive as 'cheap shots' also? That's silly.
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Libra63
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posted on March 10, 2005 09:06:35 AM new
Why single me out Bigpeepa is it because you like to type my name?
and yes Helen I am waiting for crowfarm to do that...
Even with the high gas prices people will not stay home. While watching a TV news article they interviewed 3 or 4 people who said raising gas prices doesn't bother them.
What I see is the prices going up earlier and earlier in the year. Last year it wasn't until Memorial day. Now it is almost 2 months earlier. Evidently the oil companies need the money more than I do, because they are the only one that benefits from it.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 10, 2005 09:23:06 AM new
"and yes Helen I am waiting for crowfarm to do that..."
Libra, I've only seen the right cushion themselves with pity parties before they tackle a topic. So relax your anticipation.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 09:23:28 AM new
kiara - I'll repeat my POINT just for you:
It's that double standard the left allows.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 09:43:19 AM new
helen - That's the pot calling the kettle black....since YOU have done the exact same thing. No denying that. How foolish you look blaming others for something you too have done.
Take YOUR own blinders off.
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Libra is correct in that usage is increasing - analysts do know that US demand for oil is rising, probably about 2% this year or 400,000 barrels per day.
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kiara
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posted on March 10, 2005 09:54:37 AM new
It's that double standard the left allows.
What's this 'allows' crap? My point is that no one here should be held responsible for what is 'allowed' here.
If anyone chooses to comment on what they see as a cheap shot they should have every right to do so without any conditions put on them.
Just because someone comments on one cheap shot do you expect them to comment on ALL cheap shots as others see them too? That would be silly.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 10:14:44 AM new
kiara - If anyone chooses to comment on what they see as a cheap shot they should have every right to do so without any conditions put on them.
Just as I said....and that includes my commenting on anything.
Now if you're looking to get into another pissing contest, kiara....go play with someone else. I'm not in the mood to play with your pettiness and one-sided bias today.
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crowfarm
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posted on March 10, 2005 10:23:40 AM new
libra says, "and yes Helen I am waiting for crowfarm to do that..."
Ha! She goes from "ignoring" me to anticipating my posts so I guess I'll oblige her.
Now, what the hell is she talking about?
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kiara
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posted on March 10, 2005 10:26:31 AM new
No pissing contest with me, Linda_K. You were the one that felt the need to come back and address me and make the point twice about the silly "allows" and "double standard" crap.
In reality it goes both ways and no one should be held reponsible for what they think should be 'allowed' here.
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Libra63
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:00:05 AM new
Well crowfarm helenjw posted this
Such a cheap shot is one of their few pitiful defences left when their repertoire of lies fails. Soon, one may come bebopping out of nowhere with a sob story to divert attention from the topic. Do they need to be wounded to make a point
and I answered this. "and yes Helen I am waiting for crowfarm to do that"...
Don't you read the thread before you post crowfarm or do you come racing in and just post. Read crowfarm read....
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bigpeepa
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:20:11 AM new
Hello Libra63, you asked why I replied to you directly? Its because of your DIRECT reply to me about my AOL Poll post.
Libra63 said in reply to my AOL Poll post these words. "See I knew YOU would be the 2nd to post high gas prices. I had YOU beat by a couple of days and predicted that YOU could come in and complain." Sorry Libra, I just posted the poll question and voting results nothing more or less.
Libra63 went on in her reply to try to EXPLAIN something to me about the poll results. Libra said this. "Well let me explain something. Polls have nothing to do with what you posted because each state has their own gas tax." Again Libra, I only posted the poll question and voting results nothing more or less.
Simply put Libra if you don't want direct replies to your comments don't address those comments to another person directly.
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crowfarm
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:28:28 AM new
libra Helen's previous post was >>>"Remember when some people were led to believe that the Iraq war would lead to lower gas prices? The truth of course is that the war is essentially corporate welfare paid for by American and Brittish taxpayers.
Pre war propaganda....
"The world's biggest oil bonanza in recent memory
may be just around the corner, giving U.S. oil
companies huge profits and American consumers
cheap gasoline for decades to come.
"There already is a stampede, with the Russians,
French and Italians already lined up," said Lawrence
Goldstein, president of the Petroleum Industry
Research Foundation, a New York think tank funded
by large oil companies."""
Then YOU say you're waiting for crowfarm to do just that.
What, stampede with the Russians?.....
See, libra, you have to try and do something in a LOGICAL sequence if you want the proper response.
Sorry, to tax your limited resources.
And, because YOU can't read, on a list of people who use sob stories to get out of answering questions I rank well below the champions in here.
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profe51
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:30:40 AM new
And the profe accuses Libra of a cheap shot....but I haven't seen him accuse peepa of the same all the times he's done the same. It's that double standard the left allows.
That's BS Linda, we all do it and if you were honest you'd admit that you do it too, as it suits your needs. I don't recall seeing you take twelvepole to task for any of his nastiness. Get over your "double standard the left allows" nonsense, nobody buys it, and everyone knows you do it as much as any of us.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:40:27 AM new
ibra says, "and yes Helen I am waiting for crowfarm to do that..."
Ha! She goes from "ignoring" me to anticipating my posts so I guess I'll oblige her.
Now, what the hell is she talking about?
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bigpeepa
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posted on March 10, 2005 11:42:55 AM new
Linda K, it seems you are upset about AOl's Poll question and the voting results. Or are you upset that the American people are taking a closer look at what this White House is doing to them. Now you are trying to change the subject plus blow smoke screens again to cloud the issue.
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fenix03
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posted on March 10, 2005 12:05:47 PM new
Peepa - I'm wondering, and since you seem to agree maybe you can help me out with this....
What is the line of reason which starts with rising gas prices and ends with the White House.
Since you did not answer the questions I posed to you in the last thread, maybe you would be willing to in this one.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 10, 2005 12:28:50 PM new
very simple, profe. I acknowledged that you, a member of the left here, did what we on the right are called on all the time, by the lefties. I was doing the same thing.
I don't believe I've EVER stated I have never done so either - nor that no 'rightie' has done the same thing.
I only called you on YOUR actions and made MY point.
You usually don't act that way....but recently you've surprised me three times. Just not like how you normally are with posting with the 'opposition', imo.
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