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 Bear1949
 
posted on May 25, 2005 09:03:45 PM new
Truer words have never been written.
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Sandy Berger is caught cramming top-secret intelligence documents down the front of his pants. Dan Rather is caught using forged documents to try to influence a presidential election.



John Kerry slanders a million of his "band of brothers" in bogus testimony before Congress and then continues to lie for the next 30 years, claiming that in 1968 he was sent by Richard Nixon (who wasn’t president yet) to Cambodia on Christmas Eve (which never happened), hearing the Vietnamese "sing Christmas carols" (the Vietnamese are Buddhists and don't celebrate Christmas) and being fired upon by the Khmer Rouge (which didn't become a military force until a half decade later).

Howard Dean attempts to spread outrageous lies about President Bush about the events of 9/11, only admitting – after being caught in his dissembling – that he never believed the lies himself. Al Sharpton makes his name by helping to fake the rape of a young child. Ted Kennedy clings to his family name after leaving his "female companion" to drown while he swims to shore to sober up before calling the police.



And Bill Clinton – well, he “never had sex with that woman!”



Al Gore recognizes that if he is going to be of any future relevance, he must join the parade of liars. He quickly reinvents himself by morphing from a quiet, thoughtful policy wonk to a demagogue spewing the anti-American venom and propaganda that has become the coin of the realm in today's Democratic Party.



The leadership of the Democratic Party gives a standing ovation to Michael Moore’s fake documentary, which they know to be nothing more than a lie-filled, hate-filled, anti-American propaganda piece. And Ward Churchill's lies not only gain him tenured employment but elevate him to department head at the University of Colorado.



These are not odd zealots but the heart and soul of today's Democratic Party. From its most recent standard bearer to the newly-minted head of the DNC, to its leading voices in "civil rights" issues, to its top foreign policy advisors, to its House and Senate leadership and beyond, lying has become the party’s defining trait, while the few Democrats too decent to lie – the Joe Liebermans and Dick Gephardts, for example – find themselves with less support among the party faithful than did Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat.



It is dificult to take seriously charges that Republicans are "liars" when that accusation is leveled in books like Al Franken's "Lying Liars and the Lying Lies They Tell." After all, how much credence can be given Franken when he had to testify in a court of law – to save himself from a mountain of libel suits – that his book was never intended to be taken seriously? The court agreed that no reasonable person could read "Lying Liars" and think it factual and thus the book was published as a fictional joke book.



So why do Democrats lie? Well, for one thing, they have to. Democrats recognize that the vast majority of the American people reject their basic philosophy – as they did resoundingly in the last presidential and congressional elections – which says that all domestic problems can be solved with forced confiscation and redistribution of income, all social issues can be resolved by more and more government control over the citizenry, and all international questions can be answered by ceding American sovereignty to corrupt foreign powers like France and corrupt organizations like the United Nations.

Further they have to lie because their track record is one of utter failure. The Democrats had 40 years of uninterrupted social experimentation that yielded little-to-nothing that enhanced our democracy, either domestically or in terms of foreign affairs. Just like the failing regimes of socialist Europe and the failed regime of communist Russia, Democrats cannot point to a single time when leftism – including their own – hasn't brought despair.

After decades of Democrat-driven "affirmative action," "new math," and "multicultural" experiments, blacks are still disproportionately members of an underclass and our schools (unlike those of the past that created "The Greatest Generation" are now so dysfunctional that we have to outsource the simplest jobs to countries like India. Forty years of leftism has left America more divided, not less divided, as the left pursues its agenda of replacing a "melting pot" that worked with a "mosaic" of multiculturalism, multilingualism, and America bashing that clearly doesn’t.

These are the tactical reasons that make Democrats lie. Leftists are also liars for philosophical reasons and because, I believe, of psychological aberrations. In the words of former feminist leader Tammy Bruce, leftwing Democrats are "malignant narcissists." In their arrogance, modern liberals believe in nothing greater than themselves and that whatever they say – anything that advances their agenda – must be "the truth."

The flipside of this coin is that they believe that anyone who disagrees with them must be – can only be – stupid or liars or racists. In their self-serving, self-aggrandizing minds, they justify their lies in the name of doing the rest of us a favor, the better to get us to do what they believe is the "right" thing.



Believing in nothing but self doesn't just mean rejecting the obvious higher callings of God, freedom, family, and country, but even the smaller things that good people once respected and honored are rejected by today's Democrats.

In times past, a journalist might have had the same ideological bent as a Dan Rather, but his respect for his profession – what they used to call "journalistic integrity" – kept him from being an out-and-out liar. In the old days, Hollywood's love for the movies compelled them to award the best picture Oscar to what was really the best picture. Today, without regard to the quality of the film, the award is given to any movie that advances the leftists' agenda. This year it was the pro-euthanasia "Million Dollar Baby," in contention with a pro-abortion film and one that touted the work of that known pervert Alfred Kinsey.



In another age, a museum curator placed beauty ahead of personal ideology and thus filled the halls of great museums with exceptional works based on their aesthetic value. Today's "artists" do not believe in beauty and thus seeks only to advance their anti-God agenda by filling the space with crosses drenched in urine and pictures of the Virgin Mary smeared in elephant dung.

Democrats lie because, with nothing bigger than themselves to believe in – not God, not country, not democracy, not art, not facts, not history, not freedom – they believe they themselves to be gods, and thus their beliefs become their own “gospel truth." Which is no truth at all!



About the Writer: Evan Sayet is a writer, speaker and pundit in Los Angeles and former communications director for LA for President Bush. He has been a TV and movie writer with credits ranging from "Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher" to the cult classic "Win Ben Stein's Money" and the Discovery Channel documentary "The 70's: When Decades Attack." He is currently working on a book: "Regurgitating the Apple: How Modern Liberals `Think.” Evan’s blog is SayetRight.Blogspot.com.


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A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 25, 2005 09:24:51 PM new
And a more recent lie from the left is that they've been making false statements about there being an increase of abortions under this administration.



"Politicians from Hillary Clinton and John Kerry to Howard Dean have recently contended that abortions have increased since George W. Bush took office in 2001."


It's not true either.



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 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on May 26, 2005 04:40:13 AM new
They all lie, its just what lies are you willing to accept.


Ron
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 26, 2005 05:24:58 AM new

"Politicians from Hillary Clinton and John Kerry to Howard Dean have recently contended that abortions have increased since George W. Bush took office in 2001."


Ron, My tolerance for lies is ZERO.

Linda, Your statement, obviously made to incriminate Democrats, Clinton, Kerry and Dean is possibly not true....If you read the statement carefully you will see that it's deliberately ambiguous. For example, only one abortion would increase the number of abortions since 2001.

To verify your statement you need quotes with links and you need to learn the rate of abortion since 2001 as compared to the rate of abortion in previous years. Your unlinked quote is meaningless.





 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on May 26, 2005 05:26:02 AM new
How do you vote?


Ron
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 26, 2005 07:50:28 AM new
Ron, I don't agree about ALL politicians. You're too young to be so jaded.

And I don't know who you were addressing your question to.
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helen. FACTS are FACTS. hillary, dean and kerry have ALL made these statements trying to make it appear this increase is somehow this President's fault. BUT they're incorrect/lying about the issue. No surprise there for me.


You're splitting hairs once again....doesn't change the FACTS.
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 crowfarm
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:13:57 AM new
Ha! All you Fascists are so DEFENSIVE!

I wonder why...none of you have any

standards of decency and certainly no conscience....
so why don't you just sit back, relax and ENJOY where this country is headed.

You've gotten everything you want , your Fascist dictatorship is right around the corner ....what's your problem..../?

 
 Libra63
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:26:14 AM new
No name calling in here.....


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 Helenjw
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:27:04 AM new

You apparently failed to read my comment. I along with many others here, don't recognize annonomous statements that you consider "facts" as credible.

If you are able to post quotes with links along with figures of abortion rates since Bush took office and compare those rates with previous years then, you might not have such a flimsy case. As it stands, your quote is meaningless.

Frankly, I don't believe a word that you say without backup. I've learned from experience that your sources of information along with your conclusions are often if not always unreliable.





 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:43:32 AM new
LOL helen @ -

I don't recognize annonomous statements that you consider "facts" as credible.

sure you do...and have many times when lefties have posted parts of articles with no mention of where they came from.

Who you think you're fooling? Not me.

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 Helenjw
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:52:50 AM new

Linda...try again to read...I have bolded the words that you apparently missed.


You apparently failed to read my comment. I along with many others here, I don't recognize annonomous statements that you consider "facts" as credible.

If you are able to post quotes with links along with figures of abortion rates since Bush took office and compare those rates with previous years then, you might not have such a flimsy case. As it stands, your quote is meaningless.

Frankly, I don't believe a word that you say without backup. I've learned from experience that your sources of information along with your conclusions are often if not always unreliable.





[ edited by Helenjw on May 26, 2005 09:53 AM ]
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on May 26, 2005 09:54:58 AM new
OH BALDERDASH!!
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 desquirrel
 
posted on May 26, 2005 05:21:27 PM new
"I along with many others here, I don't recognize annonomous statements that you consider "facts" as credible."

Odd considering you consider commentary and news stories that agree with your agenda not only to be credible, but holy writ.

What was the death toll on Iraqi babies during the Food for Oil program, "according to Iraqi government figures" again???

It's too bad the UN doesn't do studies on internal US government politics. I guess the Syrians, Chinese, et al, are too busy trying to get on the Human Rights Committee.




 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on May 26, 2005 05:26:27 PM new
I was asking Helen, she said she has zero tolerance for lies.

But Linda, to me that is reality please name one president that hasn't told a lie in the last 25 years.

I also am not saying all lies are bad.
Ron
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 26, 2005 05:51:27 PM new
Washingtonebayer - Ron

After you've been here for a while, you might notice that helen uses anything and everything she can to link to. Op-ed pieces, conversations from left-winged blogs, even article from other countries who are 'slamming' our county.

It will take some time...but you will see for yourself, I'm sure.

Next I never said I believe no president has ever lied. I believe your mixing what I say with your own mind-set.


In this thread, bear has pointed out many lies the dem side has told.

My point to helen when I posted what kerry, clinton and dean have been saying is that IF she doesn't require proof from others here, links, etc. then she shouldn't be expecting them from me. She has too many double standards...and I don't play those games.

If any of our enemies say anything about our country, she and other ultra-lefties here hop right on it...believing ANY outlandish lie...before any proof is offered.


They don't need proof to be angry...they just are. It was a hard loss for them, imo...and they're struggling to get over it.
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 Helenjw
 
posted on May 26, 2005 06:04:26 PM new

"How do you vote?"

Very carefully...for honest candidates.



 
 
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