bigpeepa
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posted on May 27, 2005 07:44:39 PM new
I heard of a way to settle the issue of federal money going to stem cell research.
Make two check boxes on our income tax forms.
One box saying, I am for stem cell research and will gladly donate XXX number of dollars to the research. With the understanding by donating me and my offspring can take full advantage of medical advances that come from stem cell research.
The second check box would say. I am against stem cell research and will not donate my money to stem cell research.
I also understand because of my views me or my offspring will not be allowed to take advantage of any medical advances coming from stem cell research.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 27, 2005 07:51:33 PM new
Sounds perfectly fair to me....nobody forced to something they don't want to do.
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Libra63
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posted on May 27, 2005 09:43:51 PM new
Ya right bigpeepa who is going to keep track of who paid and who didn't?
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bigpeepa
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posted on May 28, 2005 04:12:39 AM new
Libra63, keeping track of who would get new treatments that comes from stem cell research is not a problem. Just assign the opposing peoples SS number to the family.
Example, if your SS number is 333-27-1212. Your daughter or sons SS would be 333-27-1212-1
The next child born to your family SS number would be 333-27-1212-2 etc.
Or if your government makes a law for National I.D. numbers like they want the same number coding could be used.
Computers could take care of the rest.
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CBlev65252
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posted on May 28, 2005 05:52:08 AM new
Libra
There's already a check box for donating $1 to political funds. There's already a check box for applying the excess you paid to next year's tax return. Who keeps track of those? What's one more box? Now, who's being negative when a good idea is posted here? Can't be anyone from the right. They're never negative. 
Good idea, bigpeepa.
Cheryl
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crowfarm
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posted on May 28, 2005 05:56:51 AM new
Seriously, Bigpeepa, write your congressperson. That really is an excellent idea!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:27:27 AM new
ROFLMAO
This should be in the joke thread.
Ron
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CBlev65252
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:31:14 AM new
Ron
For not wanting anyone to call you names or speak harshly to you, you sure do your bit to encourage it. Your comment deserves a smart azz answer.
Cheryl
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crowfarm
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:41:15 AM new
Gee, Ron, that was a great response...no name calling!
Of course it was meaningless, nasty, unnecessary, without any merit, and meant to insult....but that's just you being you.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:43:45 AM new
Stating an opinion about the thread deserves and attack against me?
Cheryl you should reevaluate your reasons for posting.
I am curious as to where I posted an insult against bigpeepa or anyone else in this thread?
Has been so long since people have kept thier opinions and thoughts on the subject matter and not the person, that you can't tell the difference?
Ron
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:45:09 AM new
Not in anyway crowfarm, please read my response to cheryl, seems to equally apply to you as well.
Ron
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CBlev65252
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:47:23 AM new
Ron
Instead of stating your reasons why you apparently don't agree with bigpeepa, you laugh and call the thread a "joke". A very childish response to a thread, IMO.
Cheryl
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:52:55 AM new
I feel that was the appropriate response to this thread, it is a joke.
Are you trying to censor my opinions on the subject matter of the thread?
Have I said the bigpeepa didn't have a right to post this?
I am curious as to why you feel to address me personally instead of confining your comments to the subject matter?
Ron
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CBlev65252
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posted on May 28, 2005 06:56:15 AM new
Ron
Just interested in knowing why you think it's a joke thread. Don't read more into it than there is.
Cheryl
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crowfarm
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posted on May 28, 2005 07:02:16 AM new
I think ronnie is on another "fishing" trip
""Stating an opinion about the thread deserves and attack against me? ""
Nobody was attacking you ...I was just stating my opinion.
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Libra63
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posted on May 28, 2005 07:04:54 AM new
Right Cheryl but they don't keep tract of who donates to political parties. Before you give him a big pat on the back, go back and read the stupid statements that he has made. Better yet I will post them again .
One box saying, I am for stem cell research and will gladly donate XXX number of dollars to the research. With the understanding by donating me and my offspring can take full advantage of medical advances that come from stem cell research.
The second check box would say. I am against stem cell research and will not donate my money to stem cell research.
I also understand because of my views me or my offspring will not be allowed to take advantage of any medical advances coming from stem cell research
Did you read it? Tell me how will they keep track of that. How many years will they keep track. So with his statement if I donate $1.00 I will be covered. Ya right. I think they call his statements discrimination and you know that when out long ago.
So now you want to change the SS numbers. Wow! that's quite a statement. What about the old ones, just flush them down the toilet. Before you post such nonsence think, just think of what you are going to say then reread it before you post. Right bigpeepa computers are safe. Another laugh. How many identity thefts are there?
How long did it take you to think of this stupid idea. In the state of Wisconsin alone, last year there was 9,000.
Ron I agree with you. I bet the original OP is on the juice or something. I wonder how long he took in thinking this idea up. Probably while driving through the countryside charging the republicans 3x the money. Or may be his highly educated son though of this idea.
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Libra63
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posted on May 28, 2005 07:13:26 AM new
Cheryl, This is what I found on the voluntary tax. It is not in our state.
Tax Add-On -- A provision in eleven states' tax laws that allows state taxpayers to add one or more additional dollars to their annual income tax bill in order to pay for the partial public financing of designated state elections. A voluntary tax surcharge.
Tax Check-Off -- A provision in federal and thirteen states' tax laws that allows taxpayers to earmark their income-tax dollars to pay for partial public financing of designated elections. Federal income-tax forms include a voluntary $3 check-off for the presidential public financing fund.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 28, 2005 07:15:01 AM new
C&Ping libra's "Ya right. I think they call his statements discrimination and you know that when out long ago."
It is in no way discrimination. WHO is it discriminating against?
Then"Right bigpeepa computers are safe. Another laugh"
You're right...they're what got bush elected.
Then:""Ron I agree with you. I bet the original OP is on the juice or something. I wonder how long he took in thinking this idea up. Probably while driving through the countryside charging the republicans 3x the money. Or may be his highly educated son though of this idea.""
How many times are you going to REPEAT the thing about what Bigpeepa charges Republicans....until the end of time? Can't you think up something new?
Nice to see the Repugs with all their constructive criticism of an IDEA .....yup, can't have them new-fangled IDEAS floating around .....
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Linda_K
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posted on May 28, 2005 01:42:19 PM new
Has been so long since people have kept thier opinions and thoughts on the subject matter and not the person, that you can't tell the difference? Ron
Yes...you hit the nail squarely on the head....
I feel that was the appropriate response to this thread, it is a joke.
And exactly what I have done before. That why you see kiara, et al accusing me of wanting children tortured, just LOVING the fact our soldiers are being killed...and other many horrendous statements they'll make. ALL because they'll make some off-the-wall statement which just the suggestion of made me laugh, and I found it funny/laughable.
Then TO THEM that automatically MEANS you
whatever twisted thing comes up in their own minds.  Then you get accused of it for months/years. Hysterical really. [their actions]
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Linda_K
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posted on May 28, 2005 01:48:16 PM new
make two check-off boxes on our income tax forms, etc
It appears SOME here think this is a grand idea. They obviously can't think ahead in that why would only one group of taxpayers want THEIR issue up there in that check-off box.
They wouldn't. So then others will cry foul and want THEIR special interest issue addressed up there too. Pretty soon we'll have 900 zillion questions there so everyone can check of 'yes' on their box.
Not only would it take days to go though all the 'voting' but then we'll need to quadruple our IRS employees to take the 'talley's' and keep track of them.
That's why we elect representatives to 'vote' our issues for us.
I can only laugh too, at the suggestion above and the total HAVIC it would create.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 28, 2005 01:56:11 PM new
linduh,""They obviously can't think ahead in that why would only one group of taxpayers want THEIR issue up there in that check-off box""
linduh, ignoring the fact that you meant that as an insult ......many of us are quite capable of thinking ahead but it was only a suggestion and did it ever occur to you that some of us just haven't sat around all day dwelling on it.
So with your superior knowledge you should be able to spell "havoc".
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:24:15 PM new
Bigpeepa, that's an excellent idea!!
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Libra63
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posted on May 29, 2005 01:49:53 PM new
kd-With you living in Canada how would it affect you?
Do you pay taxes in both countries? Even if you check the box, where will you go for this? Do you carry health insurance to cover you in the US? Because I am sure it would be very expensive even if someone has insurance.
When he wrote that I wonder what he was thinking or was he thinking. First changing SS numbers, next giving siblings the same number except put another number on the end. Oh and BTW whose SS number would they give the siblings the mothers or fathers. Your SS number is yours and yours only. That is a duplication of SS numbers.
The best part is put it on the computer. Identity theft happens all the time and through the computer. No matter how secure a site is, it is not safe.
Be realistic if they okay embro stem cell they cannot discriminate.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 02:05:17 PM new
"""Be realistic if they okay embro stem cell they cannot discriminate. """
I 'm not sure what "embro" stem cell is but if you mean embryo stem cell research YES, they SHOULD discriminate.
The people who are against it shouldn't benefit from it....it would be against their principles anyway and how COULD they accept the benefits in good conscience ????
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 02:55:20 PM new
Libra, you don't have to live in a country to have an opinion about a good idea.
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Libra63
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posted on May 29, 2005 03:55:58 PM new
Well it helps.
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 04:02:02 PM new
How would it help, Libra?
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Libra63
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posted on May 29, 2005 04:53:33 PM new
before you think like crowfarm, think of what he said. Change the SS numbers, A system that has been in place since 1937. So bigpeepa comes along and says just change the numbers. I am not going to figure it out for you. Sometime when you have time think about what needs to be done to change all the SS numbers. Not just the ones that donate but it would have to be everyone.
Spells Disaster
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 07:25:54 PM new
Libra, of course the idea wouldn't work because the people who complain the most about embryonic stem cell research would want to get in on all the benefits, which would compromise their sense of ethics, leaving the world more screwed up than it is.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 07:42:49 PM new
Libra says, "before you think like crowfarm, think of what he said."
I'm not a "he" Libra, and Bigpeepa's BASIC idea is a good one....why should anyone benefit from stem cell research if they are against it.
For example, if you develop Alzheimer's and through stem cell research they find a cure you shouldn't be allowed to make use of it because, as Kraft so aptly put it, you may compromise your sense of ethics,"
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