crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 05:40:33 AM
I'm just tickled pink that there are more millionaires in the U.S.!!!
How many children in the United States live in low-income families?
There are approximately 70 million children in the United States.
38%—almost 27 million—live in low-income families.
17%—more than 11 million—live in poor families.
Percentage of children by family income, 2003
Have these numbers changed over time?
After a decade of decline, the proportion of children living in low-income families is rising again, a trend that began in 2000.
Percentage of children living in low-income families, 1990-2003
What are the family characteristics of low-income children?
Parental Employment
55% of all children in low-income families—14.7 million—have at least one parent who works full-time, year-round.
28% of all children in low-income families—7.6 million—have at least one parent who works part-time or full-time, part-year.
17% of all children in low-income families—4.6 million—do not have an employed parent.
Parental Education
26% of children in low-income families—6.9 million—live with parents who have less than a high school education.
36% of children in low-income families—9.6 million—live with parents who have only a high school diploma.
******39% of children in low-income families—10.4 million—live with parents who have more than a high school education.********
Percentage of children living in low-income families, by parent’s education level, 2003
Family Structure
50% of children in low-income families—13.4 million—are headed by a single parent.
50% of children in low-income families—13.5 million—are headed by married parents.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 06:57:31 AM
Why did these people have children they couldn't afford?
It is not anyone's responsibility but the parents.
Hardwork and willingness to do the job made most of these millionares.
I am very happy the ranks of millionares has expanded.
Should give these poor people something to ascribe to, instead of playing the victim.
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 07:00:53 AM
""Hardwork and willingness to do the job made most of these millionares.""
Boy, Ron, you and I must be lazy slobs!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 08:11:25 AM
Not me, I just wasn't willing to do what it took. If I had invested and started saving in my early twenties, moved to better jobs, took risks to excel, I would be a millionare today.
I have no one to blame but myself for not doing those things, then. I am doing them now, so we shall see.
People have lost ambition and to do what it takes, if I can't find the job I want here, I will move to where the job is. People won't do that today. Our forefathers had the spirit to keep moving for a better life.
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 08:30:06 AM
Oh, I get it, Ron...the old neocon..."if I do it , it's OK, if someone else does it it's not OK"
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 08:37:29 AM
Oh, I get it, Ron...the old neocon..."if I do it , it's OK, if someone else does it it's not OK"
?? Makes no sense.
Are you blaming someone besides yourself that you're not a millionare?
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 08:39:51 AM
No, Ron, I'm not. I'm saying clearly that you place one standard on yourself and another on other people.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 09:47:09 AM
How do you place yourstandards on other people? wouldn't they have to decide their own standards?
But seems to me that you are saying that people should blame somone other than themselves for their place in life?
How is that possible? We actually all have the same possibilities in life, it just most people won't do what they need to do to succeed.
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 09:50:21 AM
No, Ron, I never said that people should blame others for their own actions....and you know I never did.
I think you are deliberately mis-interpreting my statements and going on another "fishing " trip.
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Helenjw
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posted on May 29, 2005 10:25:04 AM
"We actually all have the same possibilities in life."
The problem is that for some the "possibilites" are so remote that they can only be called impossible. So your statement is meaningless. We are born and raised in different cultures and circumstances that have a direct impact on how successful we may be. Some disadvantaged people are able to overcome obstacles of poverty and oppression but it's not the norm.
I was just reading a story, "The Shawl" by Cynthia Ozick that illustrates this idea so well.... about a child born to a starving mother in a German concentration camp.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 10:27:22 AM
I believe you are the one that said something about "standards"
My standard is not to blame others for what hasn't happend in my life, by disagreeing you must be saying that it is ok to blame others.
If you are agreeing with my previous statements then that is ok to.
Ron
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stonecold613
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posted on May 29, 2005 10:48:09 AM
Cowfarm is completely clueless when it comes to finances. Ron got it right when he states It is not anyone's responsibility but the parents but the Demomorons feel they need to stick their collective noses into everyone elses business when it really don't belong there.
Then they cry that the rich aren't taxed enough. So which is it Demomorons, Not rich enough or not taxed enough? You can't have it both ways.
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Alive in 2005
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Libra63
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posted on May 29, 2005 10:49:24 AM
Ron I think the statemen is.
Someone owes me a living......
Let's take the family of the Johnson Wax corporation.
The first Mr. Johnson started the company and made money and made that family wealthy. Then he retires and has his son become head of the Johnson Corporation and instead of sitting on his butt decided he needed to improve the company. Then He died and left his son and daughter to run the company and like the father and the grandfather decided that he could make the company better. Instead of sitting on their butts they made the company better. Now the 2nd Mr. Johnson could have just sat around with all his money lived comfortablly and left the wealth to the children but wealth makes ambition. Ambition to become better than the last person.
Anyone has the chance to do this but it all depends on who owes who a living.
The only person that owes me a living is myself and if I sluff off nobody is at fault except me.
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 10:49:30 AM
Crowfarm, the same attitude is perpetuated by many people - no matter what your situation is, you've made your bed and deserve to live in it. But when one of these well-off people lose their jobs or go bankrupt because of medical bills, it's a w-a-y different story. You won't find compassion for the poor here. They don't care if it doesn't affect them.
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:18:25 AM
Ya, Kraft, you're right, and it's futile to discuss anything with those that are safe in their little coccoon and care nothing for anyone else.
The "Love Thy Neighbor" commandment (for them) only applies if your neighbor is rich.
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:28:03 AM
Right Crowfarm. I know Near hates the word karma, but I really believe if you dish out distain for your fellow man, you'll get the same back when you least expect it. But then, religious people are exempt from karma because God takes care of them in a special way.
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classicrock000
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:37:02 AM
"Boy, Ron, you and I must be lazy slobs!"
well one of you is anyway
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Baseball season has started,but they have it all wrong.3 strikes and you're out,4 balls you walk.I can tell you right now a man with 4 balls could not possibly walk
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dblfugger9
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:38:15 AM
ROFL! Like any one of you sitting at home with an Internet connection (a cell phone, cable tv, a tivo, mp3 player) complains to the others of the poor tragic life of stark poverty and has the slightest clue who they are pointy pointy wiggle wiggling and taxing that index finger to?
Oh Mirror Mirrow on the wall, who is the most judgemental hypocrite of them all?
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dblfugger9
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:41:00 AM
You won't find compassion for the poor here.
and nobody should be coddling anybody with cancer they brought on themselves!
Is that the kind of distain you speak of, kraft?
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classicrock000
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:43:38 AM
"The "Love Thy Neighbor" commandment (for them) only applies if your neighbor is rich"
Thats not entirely true crow.My neighbor is rich....and he still sucks
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Baseball season has started,but they have it all wrong.3 strikes and you're out,4 balls you walk.I can tell you right now a man with 4 balls could not possibly walk
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dblfugger9
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posted on May 29, 2005 11:44:32 AM
You won't find compassion for the poor here.
and nobody should be coddling anybody with cancer they brought on themselves! Lets not coddle anybody! poor! sick! (what are the other charitable virtues the christians are supposed to bestow and dont, but the goodie-goodie unbelievers do???)
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:18:18 PM
Are you stalking me, Double? 
Again Double, I said I have no sympathy (not to be confused with compassion) for people who make themselves sick by living a certain lifestyle that they know doesn't lead to good health. I asked you before, if there's something you don't understand about that thread, tell me what it is so we can talk about it.
And regarding your implications that I think I'm real blunt on this board, again, you're wrong. I said I was blunt with real life friends that ask me questions. Blunt is Fenix and Helen and Kiara. I admire those qualities about them.
If there's anything you still don't understand, ask away!
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dblfugger9
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:22:14 PM
Yes I am stalking you kraft.
Waiting in the woods to ask you what the hell'z wrong with you? Is there a problem with that? If so, let me know and we can talk about it. Love you to death. kiss kiss smoochie smoochies.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:26:54 PM
How can it be compassionate for the poor if we "give" them everything in life?
Where is their responsibility to improve themselves?
If you are living in tenement in Chicago and have an opportunity to make a real living by moving to Texas, they should stay in Chicago?
Helen, I am sure that is a good book, however it is in Germany and 60 years ago.
People today have more options than ever before to help themselves and don't. Why is that?
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:44:47 PM
"""People today have more options than ever before to help themselves and don't. Why is that? """
I don't know, Ron, why didn't you?
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kraftdinner
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:47:47 PM
LMHO Double!
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dblfugger9
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posted on May 29, 2005 12:58:35 PM
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Bear1949
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posted on May 29, 2005 01:03:13 PM
Yes I am stalking you kraft.
Craw's getting jealous
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on May 29, 2005 01:12:34 PM
I have answered that question before crowfarm, when will you answer?
I have said I do not blame others, do you?
Ron
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crowfarm
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posted on May 29, 2005 02:53:26 PM
posted on May 29, 2005 09:50:21 AM edit
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No, Ron, I never said that people should blame others for their own actions....and you know I never did.
I think you are deliberately mis-interpreting my statements and going on another "fishing " trip.
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