mingotree
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posted on July 10, 2005 08:16:44 PM new
Why didn't this news story receive the same attention the bombing in England got ?-
Suicide Attacks Kill at Least 48 in Iraq
Updated 6:55 PM ET July 10, 2005
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By FRANK GRIFFITHS
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A man strapped with explosives blew himself up Sunday at an Iraqi military recruiting center in Baghdad, one of a series of suicide attacks that killed at least 48 people and ended a relative lull in violence in recent days.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 10, 2005 08:54:28 PM new
Good question, since what happened in London is happening every day in Iraq. Bush will use the emotion related to this tragedy just as he used the 9/11 tragedy to fuel his agenda...in Iraq, Iran and Syria. The corporate controlled media helps Bush in this pursuit by broadcasting non-stop coverage.
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mingotree
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posted on July 10, 2005 09:17:18 PM new
Maybe it's because the news coming from Iraq, that new "democracy", is very tightly controlled by the Bush administration which means it's no democracy at all, surprise!
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fenix03
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posted on July 10, 2005 11:03:19 PM new
you know someday someone is going to have to decide just who it is that controls the media on here. Make up your minds ppeople... is it liberal controled, is it corporate controled. I lost my score card.
By the way ladies, everything got kicked off the news for the past two days... it's been all huricane all day and all night.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 06:07:31 AM new
LOL fenix, I was thinking the same thing.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 06:42:08 AM new
It's obvious the news coming out of Iraq is tightly controlled to the point of our troops shooting journalists to Bush not allowing photos of returning caskets. Where have you two been?
Fenix, do you really think that if Dennis coincided with the bombings in London we wouldn't have heard about them ?
Fenix Iraq and London are of interst to the WHOLE WORLD ...despite the overblown ego of Americans Hurricane Dennis wasn't.
I think you and Ron are trying to dance around the point.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 07:06:29 AM new
What point?
Americans care about America way it will always be.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 08:11:46 AM new
--someone is going to have to decide just who it is that controls the media --
I just did.
--Americans care about America way it will always be.--
Then why do some of them get so upset when the French care about France, the British care about themselves, and so on....
Besides I DO care about America and that's WHY I want fair coverage.
If we're fighting a war in Iraq the deaths over there should be front page news. That's about America.
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etexbill
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posted on July 11, 2005 08:37:28 AM new
Front page news in America is whatever the daily titilation is:
Girl still missing in Aruba, Hurricane hits Gulf Coast, Bride flees before wedding, Is Britney having twins, Price of gasoline goes through the roof. Deaths in Iraq happen every day so American readers get bored. Sad but true, American news readers are easily bored and Iraq just isn't important to lots of people. If you don't believe it, look at the people reading "The Inquirer" in the supermarket.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 11, 2005 08:39 AM ]
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:06:11 AM new
etexbill, I think you have finally made the point.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:18:27 AM new
Unfortunately true and sure doesn't speak well for Americans, who must think patriotism is singing the national anthem at sporting events and waving a flag.
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desquirrel
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:28:59 AM new
Simply put, 2 reasons.
1) Dog bites man is not very newsworthy.
2) Since the left wing harpies who beat the boards with this stuff wouldn't get that much attention because no Americans were involved, why get the pain if it has no gain?
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:29:13 AM new
What population of the US is directly affected by Iraq? I am guess less than 20%
Why should the other 80% really get excited about it? Will having 100% of the US worrying about Iraq actually change anything?
Ron
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fenix03
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:42:22 AM new
::It's obvious the news coming out of Iraq is tightly controlled to the point of our troops shooting journalists to Bush not allowing photos of returning caskets. Where have you two been?::
I don't know Mingo, I was wondering where you and Helen have been. I saw the news reports on TV about the attack and noticed that it was the top story on Netscape News all day yesterday so I don't quite get why you think it was not reported.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:43:56 AM new
What population of the US is directly affected by Iraq?
Just the ones who pay taxes.
Will having 100% of the US worrying about Iraq actually change anything?
Not with the present administration.
And I'm not saying they should worry about it, but is being aware of why Americans are dying too much to ask? Guess it is despite all the flag waving and stupid "Made in China" ribbon stickers on cars.
Why should the other 80% really get excited about it?
Maybe to "support the troops" ?
Maybe to back up that stupid saying, America, the Greatest country in the World?
Maybe to support the families who have lost loved ones fighting in Iraq to protect them from terrorism(ya, right).?
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 09:48:29 AM new
fenix, not all of us have cable, I go with TV news, and two, three newspapers. The internet is good but most times the number of dead is buried in an article about somethng else. No where did , or do, the deaths in Iraq get covered enough.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 10:26:40 AM new
My taxes will also have to pay for the clean of Dennis.
So you think being supportive of American troops and being proud to be American can only be accomplished by worrying that some story about Iraq gets front page news?
Ron
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Helenjw
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posted on July 11, 2005 10:29:35 AM new
A very good, comprehensive daily coverage of the Iraq battle can be found here....Juan cole is a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian history at the University of Michigan. His curriculum vitae is posted here.
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 11, 2005 10:31 AM ]
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 11:27:30 AM new
--So you think being supportive of American troops and being proud to be American can only be accomplished by worrying that some story about Iraq gets front page news? --
No, I never said the word worry, I think being informed , interested is important. Sorry but I believe being ignorant and uninformed is stupid and Un American(or should be considered so).
yes, you will ALSO pay for Dennis EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT DIRECTLY AFFECTED, so does that mean we shouldn't know what's going on in Iraq?
No.
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etexbill
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posted on July 11, 2005 11:29:37 AM new
"My taxes will also have to pay for the clean of Dennis."
One of my pet peeves. I saw a woman in Florida interviewed on TV saying that she was still waiting for the government to fix her home that was damaged last year. Why should the government fix her home! If she can't afford to fix a hurricane damaged home, stop building in hurricane alley.
The government doesn't fix my home if it is damaged in a tornado.
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 11:32:12 AM new
I think etexbill that that may have to do with being declared a Federal disaster area.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 11:36:28 AM new
Each person has their own interests and knowledge, just because they may not be interested in Iraq doesn't make them UnAmerican or ignorant.
I am sure those in Florida could care less about Iraq right now.
Those people livng on the streets, they should care? Is that more important than getting that next dollar so they can have a meal?
Your intersts are just that, yours.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 01:00:35 PM new
--I am sure those in Florida could care less about Iraq right now.
Those people livng on the streets, they should care? Is that more important than getting that next dollar so they can have a meal? --
And those are the only people in America??????
Everyone has problems and no , in the world's greatest country I don't expect that people who are so poor that they have to worry about getting enough food to eat(doesn't THAT say a lot about America!)to have to worry about Iraq. No, when your house blows away you do have more immediate concerns but that's not what I'm talking about and you know it.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 01:07:51 PM new
I guess I made my point
Ron
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etexbill
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posted on July 11, 2005 01:48:04 PM new
"I think etexbill that that may have to do with being declared a Federal disaster area.
You are right, not an easy thing to do in tornado alley. That is why I pay out the kazoo for homeowner's insurance. At one time State Farm stopped insuring any more homes in Texas. Guess I'd better move to Florida.
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 03:43:28 PM new
What point was that, Ron?
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 03:58:05 PM new
That depending on the person Iraq is not the most important thing in their life and "needing to know" is subjective.
That is one answer as to why it didn't receive the coverage you expected
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 06:06:20 PM new
I wasn't comparing events in their lives anyway, I was comparing that coverage compared to the attention the bombing in London got.
I should've seen the deaths in Iraq covered just like the deaths in England.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 11, 2005 07:03:25 PM new
Newspapers are in the business to sell, they probably had to make a decision that would make them the most money.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 11, 2005 11:46:36 PM new
Ron, THAT'S a point.
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