mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:09:33 AM new
27 people were killed in Iraq yesterday, most of them children who had gathered around U.S. troops who were handing out candy as a good will gesture.
This is the SECOND time I'm aware of that children have been killed this way in Iraq.
WHY do they keep making children a target by having them gather in large groups? When will they learn?
Can't they show "good will" by fixing the power plants so they have electricity 24/7 or have water on a regular basis.?
Handing out candy is dandy but it's killing children. This is "goodwill"??
WHO IS their commander? What IS he or she NOT thinking?
I support the troops and realize most are very competant but not the people who plan this.
[ edited by mingotree on Jul 15, 2005 06:53 AM ]
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fenix03
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:10:32 AM new
Mingo - this is the second time this has happened but how many times are these kind of give aways done every week and nothing negative happens. It's one thing to be against a war, it's another to blame soldiers trying to do something nice for the acts SOB with a bomb in his car.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:17:19 AM new
fenix, I see your point but handing out candy is NOT necessary and I still see this act as creating a target. To blame or not to blame is not the question, the fact is it kills more children.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:17:36 AM new
Oh my so we are not doing anything nice in Iraq and then when we do, because some whack job drives a vehicle into a crowd of children it is our fault. You claim to support the troops? LOL
mingotree you are way out of line on this, our soldiers were doing something good; WHY can't you see that?
That whack job seen those children, could of waited until they left but chose not to.
Notice how Al Queda is back peddling on this.
Ron
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Linda_K
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:24:56 AM new
Yep....another case of how mingotree "supports our troops". [wrong]
How sad. Blame them for doing a good deed, while not placing one bit of blame on who is doing these terrible acts of murder. So typical.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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Bear1949
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:57:45 AM new
Ol. mingo is sure starting to sound like craw.
And in case it has to be pointed out to you, the terrorists are targeting "soft" targets, ones they know cannot defend themselves. They know to target American troops at check points is futile.
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
[ edited by Bear1949 on Jul 15, 2005 08:10 AM ]
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 08:08:49 AM new
Sorry you guys but you should get some ant-acid for all those brain farts.
Sorry, too, that I used such big words so let's try again
--To blame or not to blame is not the question, the fact is it kills more children.--
I just couldn't find shorter words, sorry.
Dear LindaK you won't answer this question but it helps point out what an idiot you are
--where did I say I didn't blame the bombers?
Nowhere.
I expect our troops to act responsibly and not put children in worse circumstances than they are already in. Why is that so hard for you to understand?????
ButLindaK I DO understand why YOU would prefer having children killed just to prove a point.
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Linda_K
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posted on July 15, 2005 08:58:41 AM new
Yep....mingotree IS crowfarm. The only one who blames our troops for what the terrorists have done....and continues to make false statements about me.
Couldn't be anyone else....crowfarm is the only one whose ever done that here. It's her, alright. Sick!!!
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 09:53:18 AM new
So if they didn't hand out candy or be nice to children, then you could accuse them of being mean to the Iraqi's?
Children are naturally inqusitive, our soldiers are not responsible for some whack job that just wants to drive into a crowd.
Where is your concern that the insurgents are killing children? Stop blamining the soldiers and/or their leaders and put the blame where it belongs, on the insurgents.
How do you know this was "planned" other than they were told to stop when they seen an opportunity to spread goodwill?
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 12:10:25 PM new
LindaK says --Yep....mingotree IS crowfarm. The only one who blames our troops for what the terrorists have done....and continues to make false statements about me.--
Doesn't have any proof to back up any of that statement but that doesn't stop the Poison Keyboard from vomiting on. Saw a blurb in the newspaper referring to Jason Lewis but it applies so well to LindaK
--Often wrong but seldom in doubt--
Here's another LindaK "golden moment"
--and continues to make false statements about me.
Couldn't be anyone else....crowfarm is the only one whose ever done that here. It's her, alright. Sick!!! --
Done what ? According to you just about everybody has made false statements about you.
Ron, I have seen your level of compassion, it's none existent.
So you probably would take your children, if you had any, and leave them on a street corner in the worst part of town just to see what would happen. You KNOW what would happen but that's OK because YOU haven't harmed them, the criminal who picks them up , rapes and murders them has. So YOU didn't do anything wrong?Well the law would see it quite differently.
Putting children in harm's way is frowned upon by decent people.
Remember this incident in Iraq is not the first time.
But like true righties you just "keep to the course", work harder and keep making the same bloody mistakes over and over again in the name of steadfastness(stubborness with no thought).
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 12:10:27 PM new
LindaK says --Yep....mingotree IS crowfarm. The only one who blames our troops for what the terrorists have done....and continues to make false statements about me.--
Doesn't have any proof to back up any of that statement but that doesn't stop the Poison Keyboard from vomiting on. Saw a blurb in the newspaper referring to Jason Lewis but it applies so well to LindaK
--Often wrong but seldom in doubt--
Here's another LindaK "golden moment"
--and continues to make false statements about me.
Couldn't be anyone else....crowfarm is the only one whose ever done that here. It's her, alright. Sick!!! --
Done what ? According to you just about everybody has made false statements about you.
Ron, I have seen your level of compassion, it's none existent.
So you probably would take your children, if you had any, and leave them on a street corner in the worst part of town just to see what would happen. You KNOW what would happen but that's OK because YOU haven't harmed them, the criminal who picks them up , rapes and murders them has. So YOU didn't do anything wrong?Well the law would see it quite differently.
Putting children in harm's way is frowned upon by decent people.
Remember this incident in Iraq is not the first time.
But like true righties you just "keep to the course", work harder and keep making the same bloody mistakes over and over again in the name of steadfastness(stubborness with no thought).
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 12:50:29 PM new
You have yet to lay the blame where it belongs. On the insurgents, you don't know that it was a planned thing or just some nice soldiers passing out goodwill, why is it so hard for you to support our troops?
You can't rationally answer so now you attempt to attack me?
I haven't seen anyone here say this was not tragic and as you have neglected to point out a US soldier died also.
I wanted to add that our soldiers in no way placed those children in harms way, but your hatred won't allow you to see that.
That I do KNOW.
Ron
[ edited by WashingtoneBayer on Jul 15, 2005 01:01 PM ]
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 05:05:38 PM new
OK Ron, then, according to you and LindaK (who hasn't been back since I asked for proof ), it's a really good idea to gather large groups of children around soldiers in Iraq to promote goodwill even when it makes these children great targets, I suppose it's OK to you two because they aren't American kids and if it shows Americans handing out candy and goodwill their deaths mean nothing...what a barbaric attitude. You'd both make great terrorists
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 05:19:46 PM new
Once again you can't rationally discuss the topic and resort to name calling. Fair warning I don't tolerate that.
I am still wondering why you refuse to place the blame where it acutally belongs.
I do support my troops spreading goodwill and if that means handing out sweets to children then so be it, if you haven't noticed Iraqi people are upset with the insurgents over this not the US Soldiers.
It comes across where you do not hold the insurgents responsible at all. BTW do you actually know how many soldiers where there?
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 05:31:13 PM new
Where have I refused to place the blame on the terrorists? Can't find it can you?
Again, if you don't care about children being blown to bits then you will never understand my view. Terrorists also don't care about blowing children to bits, there is that delicate enough for your tender, sensitve, nature.
Must be a rough life you have if being called a name hurts you so deeply
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bigpeepa
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:12:52 PM new
I agree with both sides on this issue. Now if wacko religious freaks keep blowing up kids. The practice of soldiers standing around giving out candy should stop. There must be safer ways like throwing candy out of moving trucks. If this continues than we must find a safer way to be nice guys, or quit trying to be nice guys when it puts troops and kids at risk. Lets not give wacko religious rag heads easy targets.
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:16:03 PM new
Thank you Bigpeepa!, it shows how a person can understand a message when they apply logic and keep their tender feelings out of it.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:53:47 PM new
You don't like it mingotree you don't need to address me.
I do care about children I also care about spreading goodwill and if this is the price we have to pay, then let it be paid and lets see how the insurgents fair.
Ron
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bigpeepa
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:15:22 PM new
Ron I also would like to think that America can still spread good will. Spreading good will reminds me of some signs in bars in Puerto Rico. The signs I saw were in red,white and blue with American Flags in the corners. They said "THANKS AMERICA BILLIONS OF TIMES". Of course the sign was thanking America for the billions of dollars we send there. Then when a vote comes up on the Island to become a state they always turn us down. LOL
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:58:31 PM new
You don't like it Ron, you don't need to read it.
Ron says--I do care about children I also care about spreading goodwill and if this is the price
we
have to pay, then let it be paid and --
WE?
WE?
What WE is this Ron. Seems to me those CHILDREN pay the price NOT "WE".
You are ever so casual about others lives and then say you care????????
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 08:46:55 PM new
WE is the people who actually support the troops, not some great pretender while secretly smiling at the thought that America "caused" the deaths of innocent children. Which has no grain of truth.
Insurgents caused those deaths, Insurgents drove that car into that crowd, Insurgents, Insurgents Insurgents. Do you understand now or are you still wrong in your thinking that the US caused those deaths?
Bigpeepa war is not pleasant or it would be done more often.
The insurgents again miscalculated the consequences of their actions.
Ron
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 15, 2005 08:48:41 PM new
BTW I read it because I was mistaken I was dealing with adults here, mingotree are you saying that you cannot behave like an adult?
Ron
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 15, 2005 08:58:41 PM new
Mingo.. I understand what you are saying.
Although our troops only had the best of intentions while handing out treats to the children..they must realize that the murdering terrorists will use any opportunity that is available to them to continue their terrorist acts..and if they are putting at risk, the very lives of those they are trying to protect and or show kindness to by continuing these public acts of goodwill...then they must stop.
All Men Are Animal's; Some Just Make Better Pets
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 09:30:08 PM new
How, Ron, is your "we" paying the price ??
What price?
These children are paying with their lives !
WHAT price is your "WE" paying? Have YOU paid with your life?
Who is "secretly smiling at the thought that America caused the death of these children"?
Who?
No one I know.
Sounds like you can't get the point and are firing blanks.
Wrong? Just start whining about name calling...it's been done before
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etexbill
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posted on July 15, 2005 09:46:12 PM new
mingo, so far you have condemned the troop's commander, the troops for handing out candy to children and said that Ron would probably leave his children on a street corner in the worst part of town. Not a word of condemnation toward the people who would blow up children to kill an American or two. I thought you were way down there, but I guess I didn't realize just
how low you could get.
"--where did I say I didn't blame the bombers?
Nowhere."
That's just it, where did you say you DID blame the bombers. Nowhere.
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Linda_K
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posted on July 15, 2005 09:48:12 PM new
I took Ron's "WE" as us....U.S. citizens....us....our soldiers that are killed right along side of those these terrorists are murdering.
Our soldiers are NOT to blame....the terrorsists are....they are the one's using the car bombs to kill innocent children....NOT our soldiers {US}.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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etexbill
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posted on July 15, 2005 09:50:59 PM new
Now, try to reply without name calling.
That's really impossible for you isn't it.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 15, 2005 10:00:31 PM new
Whoa! You guys..I believe Mingodingo said in his/her first post :I support the troops and realize most are very competant but not the people who plan this.
I understood his/her meaning..it is being irresponsible even if the troops had all good intentions in this act of goodwill..it still puts at risk the very one's they are trying to protect..I don't see anywhere where Mingo is blaming our troops..that's just silly..
All Men Are Animal's; Some Just Make Better Pets
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Helenjw
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posted on July 15, 2005 10:01:33 PM new
Linda writes,"I took Ron's "WE" as us....U.S. citizens....us....our soldiers that are killed right along side of those these terrorists are murdering."
Then etexbill cautions, "Now, try to reply without name calling"
Pitiful.
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 15, 2005 10:02 PM ]
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 10:18:38 PM new
For the "mouse challenged", I scrolled up and reposted the OP. It's in English. Try again.
--27 people were killed in Iraq yesterday, most of them children who had gathered around U.S. troops who were handing out candy as a good will gesture.
This is the SECOND time I'm aware of that children have been killed this way in Iraq.
WHY do they keep making children a target by having them gather in large groups? When will they learn?
Can't they show "good will" by fixing the power plants so they have electricity 24/7 or have water on a regular basis.?
Handing out candy is dandy but it's killing children. This is "goodwill"?? --
Now where did I say Terrorists are not responsible?
Here's the post LindaK avoided--
LindaK says --Yep....mingotree IS crowfarm. The only one who blames our troops for what the terrorists have done....and continues to make false statements about me.--
Doesn't have any proof to back up any of that statement but that doesn't stop the Poison Keyboard from vomiting on. Saw a blurb in the newspaper referring to Jason Lewis but it applies so well to LindaK
--Often wrong but seldom in doubt--
Here's another LindaK "golden moment"
--and continues to make false statements about me.
Couldn't be anyone else....crowfarm is the only one whose ever done that here. It's her, alright. Sick!!! --
Done what ? According to you just about everybody has made false statements about you. --
LindaK has provided NO proof of her FALSE charges.
Etex, Ron, LindaK, it's nice to know that you don't believe in protecting children, but normal people do. Normal people care more about saving the lives of children than if they are called a name.
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