To expiate the pain of losing her firstborn son in the Iraq war, Cindy Sheehan decided to cheer herself up by engaging in Stalinist agitprop outside President Bush's Crawford ranch. It's the strangest method of grieving I've seen since Paul Wellstone's funeral. Someone needs to teach these liberals how to mourn.
Call me old-fashioned, but a grief-stricken war mother shouldn't have her own full-time PR flack. After your third profile on "Entertainment Tonight," you're no longer a grieving mom; you're a C-list celebrity trolling for a book deal or a reality show.
We're sorry about Ms. Sheehan's son, but the entire nation was attacked on 9-11. This isn't about her personal loss. America has been under relentless attack from Islamic terrorists for 20 years, culminating in a devastating attack on U.S. soil on 9-11. It's not going to stop unless we fight back, annihilate Muslim fanatics, destroy their bases, eliminate their sponsors and end all their hope. A lot more mothers will be grieving if our military policy is: No one gets hurt!
Fortunately, the Constitution vests authority to make foreign policy with the president of the United States, not with this week's sad story. But liberals think that since they have been able to produce a grieving mother, the commander in chief should step aside and let Cindy Sheehan make foreign policy for the nation. As Maureen Dowd said, it's "inhumane" for Bush not "to understand that the moral authority of parents who bury children killed in Iraq is absolute."
I'm not sure what "moral authority" is supposed to mean in that sentence, but if it has anything to do with Cindy Sheehan dictating America's foreign policy, then no, it is not "absolute." It's not even conditional, provisional, fleeting, theoretical or ephemeral.
The logical, intellectual and ethical shortcomings of such a statement are staggering. If one dead son means no one can win an argument with you, how about two dead sons? What if the person arguing with you is a mother who also lost a son in Iraq and she's pro-war? Do we decide the winner with a coin toss? Or do we see if there's a woman out there who lost two children in Iraq and see what she thinks about the war?
Dowd's "absolute" moral authority column demonstrates, once again, what can happen when liberals start tossing around terms they don't understand like "absolute" and "moral." It seems that the inspiration for Dowd's column was also absolute. On the rocks.
Liberals demand that we listen with rapt attention to Sheehan, but she has nothing new to say about the war. At least nothing we haven't heard from Michael Moore since approximately 11 a.m., Sept. 11, 2001. It's a neocon war; we're fighting for Israel; it's a war for oil; Bush lied, kids died; there is no connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. Turn on MSNBC's "Hardball" and you can hear it right now. At this point, Cindy Sheehan is like a touring company of Air America radio: Same old script and it's not even the original cast.
These arguments didn't persuade Hillary Clinton or John McCain to vote against the war. They didn't persuade Democratic primary voters, who unceremoniously dumped anti-war candidate Howard Dean in favor of John Kerry, who voted for the war before he voted against it. They certainly didn't persuade a majority of American voters who re-upped George Bush's tenure as the nation's commander in chief last November.
But now liberals demand that we listen to the same old arguments all over again, not because Sheehan has any new insights, but because she has the ability to repel dissent by citing her grief.
On the bright side, Sheehan shows us what Democrats would say if they thought they were immunized from disagreement. Sheehan has called President Bush "that filth-spewer and warmonger." She says "America has been killing people on this continent since it was started" and "the killing has gone on unabated for over 200 years." She calls the U.S. government a "morally repugnant system" and says, "This country is not worth dying for." I have a feeling every time this gal opens her trap, Michael Moore gets a residuals check.
Evidently, however, there are some things worth killing for. Sheehan recently said she only seemed calm "because if I started hitting something, I wouldn't stop 'til it was dead." It's a wonder Bush won't meet with her.
"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best for the cause by editing a newspaper." --Robert E. Lee
posted on August 18, 2005 11:28:48 AM new
Fascist Point no. 3
""3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.""
So Annie Fannie "supports the troops" by bad mouthing a mother of one of the MANY dead....it's to be expected from the whore of Washington...
posted on August 18, 2005 01:29:24 PM newIdentification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
The mantra of the left, call everyone that is anti Cindy a fascist....
"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best for the cause by editing a newspaper." --Robert E. Lee
""3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.""
So all Liberals that blame President Bush are fascists. Works for me.
posted on August 18, 2005 06:34:47 PM new
good post Ron
NTS-you were right-the liberal wacko posted as predicted LOL
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posted on August 18, 2005 11:36:45 PM new
I don't know Ronnie, does labeling Liberals as fascist based on a few words make YOU feel better?
"""So all Liberals that blame President Bush are fascists. Works for me."""
posted on August 19, 2005 06:38:02 AM new
Yep I made my point. I can go through each and every point and make the allusion they match up with liberals.
Just as your feeble attempt to make them match some people who post here.
Being 50+ I guess you have visted an actual fascist country and have some actual experience with the people of that country? Franco is the last one that comes to mind, so when were you in Spain?
posted on August 19, 2005 01:17:45 PM new
Once again, Ann gets it just soooo perfect.
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And I too agree with Ron's statement.
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Once Cindy made her statement that this country isn't worth dying for....she pretty much turned off ALL American patriots, imo.
I'm glad her son doesn't have to listen to all this. He too would be ashamed. He believed America WAS worth fighting and dying for....and sadly, his life was taken, doing just what he chose to do for HIS country.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 02:37:56 PM newShe calls the U.S. government a "morally repugnant system" and says, "This country is not worth dying for." I have a feeling every time this gal opens her trap, Michael Moore gets a residuals check.
That coming from Ann Coulter who blamed a diabled veteran on TV for loosing the war. How un-American of her.
Another great quote by Ann: God says, "Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours."
A lot more mothers will be grieving if our military policy is: No one gets hurt!
So Ann's solution to all this is :"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
After your third profile on "Entertainment Tonight," you're no longer a grieving mom; you're a C-list celebrity trolling for a book deal or a reality show.
I think Ann is just jealous now because Cindy is getting more TV time than she is.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 20, 2005 05:07:30 PM new
LindaTwelveK, the queen of "Don't Speak For Me, I'll Speak For Myself", ASSUMES she knows just what Sheehan's son thought.
Well, LindaK does NOT know what he thought, she has NO way of knowing and to presume she does, or know more about him then his own mother is sheer hypocritical stupidity .
Linda's buddy, Rush Limbaugh's thinking is just as faulty. Limbaugh said, "Her story is nothing more than forged documents. There's nothing about it that's real, including the mainstream media's glomming onto it. It's not real. It's nothing more than an attempt. It's the latest effort made by the coordinated left."
It's no wonder that the right is so misinformed if they are being indoctrinated by fools like Limbaugh.
posted on August 20, 2005 08:23:17 PM new
Oh the old grunting "Duh Ya didn't be in da military so ya don't know nuttin'"
But I see you're another god-like creature who can read Casey's mind(hey and he's dead, you're GOOD!), and his mother's !
Uh, you're chickenshit Commander-in-Cheif was too scared to fight and he , knowing nothing about war, gleefully sends others to do something he was to yellow-bellied to do. So don't talk about HAVING to know abpout the military to comment on it. YOU REPUGS STILL haven't taken away our right to free speech Haha!
You could've been a high ranking general in the armed forces and you STILL wouldn't be able to read anyone's mind .
posted on August 20, 2005 08:40:50 PM new
Yea, Ron, all the bright intellectual people know that if you didn't like serving your country....you just re-enlist. What's the matter with you?
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She proves just how stupid can one person be.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 08:42:24 PM new
LindaTwelveK, the queen of "Don't Speak For Me, I'll Speak For Myself", ASSUMES she knows just what Sheehan's son thought.
Well, LindaK does NOT know what he thought, she has NO way of knowing and to presume she does, or know more about him then his own mother is sheer hypocritical stupidity .
posted on August 20, 2005 08:46:26 PM new
Where did I say she didn't have a right to speak? I have just stated my opinon as she did.
She can spew all the embarrassing statements she wants, she cannot expect people to comment on them.
You don't have to be a mind reader to know that people reenlist in our armed forces because they do enjoy the things they are doing, believe in what they are doing and are committed to their respective branch.
Being 50+ you may not realize this is now an All Volunteer Force and no one is forced to join as when there was a draft.
posted on August 20, 2005 08:48:47 PM new
Not assuming anything.
Any IDIOT would be able to comprehend that if a soldiers didn't like what he/she was doing, didn't agree with what their mission was all about - and didn't support it one tiny bit - they would LEAVE the service.....[b]NOT RE-ENLIST.
Except you, obviously who can't even grasp that much....sadly.
It's called having 'common sense' which you apparently haven't a DROP of.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 08:52:41 PM new
What you and many other fascistneocons don't realize is that many re-listed or enlisted thinking, and being lead to believe, they were fighting the people responsible for 9/11...they were lied to.
They were, instead, slaughtered in the bush administration's phony war in Iraq. THAT is what Cindy said her son thought. I didn't read it anywhere, I heard her say it in her own words.
Not everyone in the armed forces are mindless killers like you would like people to believe.
posted on August 20, 2005 08:55:19 PM new
LindaTwelveK, I'm aware that you're a bloodthirsty, kill crazy fascist but YOU have NEVER heard ONE WORD Cindy Sheehan has uttered and yet you stupidly keep commenting on a subject of which you nothing. You know nothing but the rotting garbage in your own mind.
posted on August 20, 2005 09:12:43 PM new
Hey, Linda Blair, catch up with current technology would ya?
I HAVE heard her speak....she's been on TV a lot of times. Are you trying to say that wasn't her and that they had someone else speaking for her? Yep, you can get more and more stupid.
And then again, theirs been newspaper that quote her every word. Maybe YOU believe they've misquoted her own statements.....
...but unlike YOU, I live in reality.
She and her son DID NOT agree, from the beginning NOR when he re-enlisted. PERIOD....those ARE THE FACTS.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 20, 2005 09:26:41 PM new
Hey you two, go easy on poor gotree. She thinks Sheehan's protest is being held in Crawfarm Texas. She doesn't know that it's Crawford Texas.
posted on August 20, 2005 09:53:09 PM new
There's a ton of things Linda Blair doesn't know....
She really could gain some additional insight by reading what ALL the OTHER members of Casey's family have said about him, not ony his mother, who he disagreed with words. His desire to make the military a career, his love of his country, etc. etc.
THEN LB would get a much different picture than she has now of the situation.......IF her brain could absorb what THEY'RE saying too.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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