cherishedclutter
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posted on September 6, 2005 04:35:37 PM new
I've noticed in the last couple of days that the networks are showing more pictures of dead bodies. At first it was the occasional picture of a body covered by a blanket or sheet, etc. Now they are showing bodies that are still in the water or by the side of a road that haven't been covered.
I think it's unnecessary and disrespectful.
What do you think?
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 6, 2005 04:37:51 PM new
Nope, no reason to, some of the families probably haven't even been notified.
Ron
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carolinetyler
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posted on September 6, 2005 04:53:31 PM new
I wish they would not do it - not only disrespectful, but may be upsetting to those watching.
I believe Fox News has a policy of not showing that type of picture. This came about after a guy holding a gun to his own head blew his brains out on live TV while many cable and other news were following the story.
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bigpeepa
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posted on September 6, 2005 04:55:28 PM new
We are pushing 2,000 dead in Iraq with how many wounded? Now in New Orleans no one knows how many died yet but we do know hundreds of thousands of Americans have been wounded. Why not show America what poor planing from our Government does both here and Iraq.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 6, 2005 05:02:09 PM new
peepa, Iraq is different, I am sure the families know when their loved one has been killed in a short amount of time.
Those deaths in the hurricane path most likely have not been identified and why have the family learn about it by seeing the dead body on TV? Sounds heartless to me.
Ron
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cherishedclutter
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posted on September 6, 2005 05:02:12 PM new
I've been watching Anderson Cooper on CNN who keeps mentioning dignity in death. That'a concept I believe in. I don't however, believe that CNN is living up to that concept.
The bodies probably aren't recognizable - but I still think it would be very upsetting to anyone who has family missing.
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dblfugger9
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posted on September 6, 2005 05:07:24 PM new
Why not show America what poor planing from our Government does both here and Iraq.
Yes, peepa, keep showing it and let us Americans continue the de-sensitizing process. -death? dead? floating bodies? What is that? Shrug! We'll soon all start to think it's as normal as a graphic on a video game.
Cherished, I think its disrespectful, too.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Sep 6, 2005 05:19 PM ]
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fenix03
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posted on September 6, 2005 05:37:04 PM new
I don't think it should be done fotr publicity or to further a political finger pointing game and I don't think faces should be shown but I don't think there should be a conscious decision not to show bodies since that is the reality of what happened and sometimes it's what's needed to make things real.
I think the most powerful piece I saw last week was the first version of Sheppard Smiths piece in front of the body of an elderly man left dead on a bridge. He filmed two pieces and the second was the one aired most of the day. It was more poetic and homogenized. The first airing was probably the first take in which Smiths delivery was more raw and emotionally honest and I think told the story much better.
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fenix03
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posted on September 6, 2005 05:38:38 PM new
Caroline - I have to wonder - why is it that you feel that news should not be disturbing?
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bunnicula
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posted on September 6, 2005 06:51:34 PM new
I think it's unnecessary and disrespectful. What do you think?
I can't imagine how showing the bodies is disrespectful. As to necessary...in a way it is necessary. We whitewash & sanitize everything in this country, and people should be aware of length and breadth of this disaster. There is a difference between "knowing" it and knowing it. In fact, as I consider the matter, I think that the real disrespect would be to hide away the existence of the bodies to protect the "sensitivities" of news viewers.
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bigpeepa
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posted on September 6, 2005 07:17:03 PM new
I didn't see any recognizable dead bodies on T.V. except the heads of FIMA and Homeland Security.
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piinthesky
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posted on September 6, 2005 08:30:25 PM new
Well then maybe we should start calling you Beegpipa.
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dblfugger9
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posted on September 6, 2005 08:35:20 PM new
..or bagpipPa' 
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carolinetyler
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posted on September 7, 2005 05:22:19 AM new
Fenix - I did not say the News should not be disturbing - I said showing bodies may be upsetting to those watching and it is disrespectful to the families of those who died.
And by those watching, I was referring to not only the survivors, but children - along with everyone else in the world.
The news IS disturbing on its own, it does not need those pictures to make its point, particularly in this case. I think the devastation in NO makes just as much of a statement as showing the bodies.
Would you want your loved one shown bloated and floating around New Orleans?
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fenix03
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posted on September 7, 2005 06:21:08 AM new
Caroline - We see things much differently. I'm of the school that I am a adult and I own a remote and therefor if I find something that is disturbing, I can change the channel. I also apply this basic belief to all other individuals. I do not need, nor do I desire, to have my information feed edited and homogenized to please the lowest common denominator. Those that have children need to take the responsibility to know what is right for them to see, those that are too sensitive to see the reality of the world today should crawl back into their holes and keep their remotes tuned to less offending channels but the news is supposed to INFORM not protect.
As to your direct question...considering that even the new organizations don't show the faces of the dead, honestly it would not bother me. Maybe those are the visuals that people need to see in order to take the steps needed to make sure this never happens again.
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fenix03
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posted on September 7, 2005 06:35:05 AM new
[ edited by fenix03 on Sep 7, 2005 06:35 AM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on September 7, 2005 06:51:24 AM new
Caroline asks,"Would you want your loved one shown bloated and floating around New Orleans?
In order to see the extent of this disaster and prepare for the next disaster EVERYTHING should be shown. No one "wants" or desires to see the body of their loved ones or anyone else foating in New Orleans. But such disturbing truth should not be censored in an effort to sanitize the news.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 7, 2005 06:51:52 AM new
What steps would that be fenix? People had warnings, people knew the hurricane was coming directly at them. People will do what people want to do and it comes from the "Won't happen to me." syndrome.
If the bodies are unrecognizable, then shouldn't be a problem. Dead is Dead, you want to people to really think about it, they should have smellivision along with it.
Ron
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fenix03
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posted on September 7, 2005 08:07:29 AM new
::What steps would that be fenix? People had warnings, people knew the hurricane was coming directly at them. People will do what people want to do and it comes from the "Won't happen to me." syndrome.::
Why do you think it's only about people. Some of those steps would be a comprehensive evacuation plan and the actual implementation of it when needed. The use of federal resources from the first step because even if you don't give a damn about human life, i9t would have saved a lot of money down the line. Also. do you really believe that people that see images of the dead lying in the street as water levels go down are not going to remember them next time? Some are aslways going to stay but I'll be tyou that the necxt time there is a hurricane warning along coastal Louisiana and Mississippi, people are going to get the hell out and if busses are not there to help evacuate the elderly and the poor those people are going to be on the phone to their local media outlets to put the pressure on city officials.
Not everyone learns from tragedy no matter what you do, but no one learns if you hide the scope of the tragedy.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 7, 2005 09:04:36 AM new
Sorry, I happen to believe my federal dollars should not be wasted as "What if". If you think that equates for not caring about human life you have that privledge.
City Officials failed, State Officails Failed and FEMA failed. That I can agree with. This is not the first hurricane to pass through here and won't be the last. People will not learn from this.
Most cities have plans, but actually getting people to follow them are a different story. Plans should be practiced, just like the old duck and cover. Complancency and as I said before "Won't happen to me" did most of this.
Children were not thought, Elderly were not thought of, animals were not thought of. What a great city government New Orleans must of had.
But then again New Orleans is just one area hit. I am sure other areas are having just as hard time.
The one good thing that could of come of this would of been for people to come together and support the people that have been displaced. ( I hate the word refugee also) But seems like an element of society just wouldn't allow it. So as per thier desire we are a country once again divided.
Ron
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fenix03
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posted on September 7, 2005 09:16:17 AM new
Ron - your tax dolars are wasted on "what if" every day. Every time alert levels are elevated, your tax dollars are spent on the additional police and security that is required based on a "what if" and so many other situations.
How about if we don't fund a rain forest in Iowa or research into the uses of wood in five states and instead use that money help potentially save the lives of tax payers?
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Helenjw
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posted on September 7, 2005 09:17:06 AM new
"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
Barbara Bush
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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stopwhining
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posted on September 7, 2005 10:18:42 AM new
911 Episode-they stopped showing people jumping out of the windows of the twin towers,some were flapping their arms as if they were going to fly??
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 7, 2005 11:25:25 AM new
Sorry I am not into free handouts to people, let them begin saving their own lives.
People in this country have stopped taking responsibiity for themselves. Some how that has go to change.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on September 7, 2005 11:59:04 AM new
Spoken like a true neocon:
WashingtoneBayer
posted on September 7, 2005 11:25:25 AM
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Sorry I am not into free handouts to people, let them begin saving their own lives."""
But, of course, Iraq is a different story???
So I guess this means YOU won't be donating to the victims of the hurricane
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on September 7, 2005 02:17:11 PM new
Duh, can you even remember reading posts mingotree?
I have already stated I have donated $100 along with toothbrushes, deodorant and soap.
Of course that is the thread you were making a big joke out of this and was afraid to state that you haven't donated.
Ron
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bigpeepa
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posted on September 7, 2005 03:07:37 PM new
Ron said, "Sorry I am not into free handouts to people, let them begin saving their own lives."
Read his above statement again people. This is what we are getting of the right wing wacko CON-servatives.
We can end this kind of mindset in the 2006 elections. Just vote the CON-servatives out for a BETTER AMERICA!!!!
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colin
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posted on September 7, 2005 03:24:43 PM new
bigpeeep, Are you collecting any public assistance? If so just what?
Somehow I have the feeling you're at the mail box on the 1st of every month. Am I wrong?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I do think it's being over used. Welfare was to help people get back on there feet not to sustain them for several generations.
Should they show the bloated floating bodies. Yes I think they should. I think this should be etched in everyones memory, just as 9/11 was.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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rustygumbo
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posted on September 8, 2005 08:36:28 AM new
it is better for the neochristiancons to only think of death as a concept rather than a major part of the story. i bet GW made sure he didn't see any of the carnage either. it is the only way to seperate their agenda from humanity in order for them to preach without the realities of death.
sorry folks, but the reality of this disaster is death and lots of it. if a news broadcast wants to show the reality, then they should show it. you don't have to watch it and i know most people wouldn't want to watch it, but to censor the truth for some people to hide from the reality is wrong.
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davebraun
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posted on September 8, 2005 08:42:50 AM new
I get the feeling you are duping the members of your congregation (if any) in the name of religion reverend colon. collecting any $$$ to support your misistry of hate?
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