WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:16:30 AM
We have the democrats, with only 3 years before the next presidential election, wasting time on trials and indictments that will account to nothing and not building a candidate that can actually win.
If they plan on even making a decent showing, then now is the time to start building that winner they want to see.
I know I will vote my own party if we have someone running, but will not vote Democrat if they throw someone like Kerry up there again.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:27:43 AM
Prosecuting law breakers is a waste of time?
Great CONSERVATIVE NON-morals 
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:32:20 AM
Alleged law breakers or have you forgotten Innocent until proven Guilty?
But I think you know deep down none will be convicted.
So in reality it will have been a waste of time.
Ron
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chimpchamp
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:36:32 AM
Ron is the libertarian party organized enough to have a potential candidate in mind for 2008?
I agree about the democratic party needing to get organized. A few know they need to start re-building but the extreme left has taken over. The momentum needed doesn't seem to be able to take hold because of bickering within the party.
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mingotree
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:39:59 AM
Ya, they may get off...they have the power to commit crimes and get away with it.
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty not just the highest ranking Republicans
So with your reasoning(?) you think no one should ever be prosecuted..hmmm...great plan...
Waste of time to investigate allegations of treason, money laundering, etc.,etc.....?????
and it WASN'T a waste of time (and taxpayer's money) to investigate someone's private sex life ?
Republicans...what will we do about their skewed morals...tsk, tsk ...
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:51:58 AM
At this time we don't have candidate either 
I am saying have some definite proof for a conviction, then proceed. Not some skewed idea they did something wrong.
Ron
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mingotree
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:54:45 AM
"""I am saying have some definite proof for a conviction, then proceed."""
Ron, dear, that's exactly how it works (and IS working.)
OOOps! Almost forgot my tagline...
3 MORE YEARS!
of indictments!
for no reason at all
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kraftdinner
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posted on October 25, 2005 10:59:22 AM
I don't think it matters at this point. Bush & Co have totally ruined the U.S. since taking office, so what now? Would you want to be in charge of a "peace-loving" country that's at war with everyone and is hated more and more each day by other countries because of the hypocrisy? It looks like a no-win situation to me in 2008.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:01:48 PM
Agreed Ron....wasting taxpayers time and dollars.....only to attempt to at LEAST have this administion experience SOME indictments....since their party had SO MANY IT SET ALL KINDS OF RECORDS. 
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Clinton Scandal Index
RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate.
47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself.
There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges.
14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.
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Oh yes, let's listen to the totally ignorant CLAIM it was all about sex. LOL LOL
Sure it was.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:05:34 PM
Like Clock-work..when you have no defense... blame Clinton!! hee hee hee
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:07:30 PM
And there's more:
STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION
- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
CRIME STATS
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES
FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS
HAVE BEEN OBTAINED
Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4),
tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2),
fraud (12),
conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5),
money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.
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But to those who wish to re-write history it's all about sex. Yeah, right. Sure....
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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mingotree
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:08:14 PM
Clinton isn't in office now.
(for the dense who haven't caught on yet)
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:09:53 PM
maggie - While you Bush haters continue to drool over all this....he's innocent UNTIL proven guilty. Read the lists above....makes this administration look like Snow White....
Can't totally ignore the facts....no matter how you wish to.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:10:03 PM
Blame Clinton.. if all else fails...blame Clinton....ROFLMAO@LINDAk
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:14:19 PM
magge - At least try to pretend you can figure out who brought up clinton FIRST in this thread. Go slow and try....
The truth must hurt.
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chimpchamp - The momentum needed doesn't seem to be able to take hold because of bickering within the party. LOL....it's not bickering that's going on in their party....it's out-an-out war.
Will be interesting to see if the radical ultra liberals win out....or the pretending moderates like h. clinton.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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dblfugger9
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:15:52 PM
LOL nice groovey list there, linda!
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:19:45 PM
dbl - lol
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:36:51 PM
Linda...don't worry you only have another 3 years of utter humiliation..you're a big girl you can take it.. Lovin every minute of it...what's if feel like having a mouth full of feathers..do you like eating crow?
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:40:02 PM
He who laughs last....laughs BEST old maggie....I'm sure you've heard that one.
We'll have the final laugh at this bogus charge.
And on eating crow....ugh...I wouldn't come anywhere near any part of your friends body. Keep her [crow] for your own laughs.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61 Long, long way to go.
[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 25, 2005 01:42 PM ]
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 01:48:37 PM
Okay.. LOL.. I'll stay with Crow, while you continue to stroke...scuzziefugger...oh..wait..no..that won't work, you're white and she says that's not her color of choice..hee hee
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 02:04:45 PM
Maggie....dbl puts you to shame each time you two go at it. No doubt about that.
And with your continued mention of race in three different posts now, black to be specific, are you trying to show everyone here just how prejudiced you really are against black men? IF so....SHAME on you.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 02:17:34 PM
omg.. being put to shame by the Fugger...
I'm going to eat some worms and die..of humiliation right now...
oh and btw.. I am not prejudice against black men..I just don't want one in my bed.. if that's okay with you.. but go ahead if that's what you aspire to..have at it!
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Oct 25, 2005 02:20 PM ]
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 02:42:28 PM
LOL....not a good enough answer old maggie....though you did TRY to get out of it. Backpeddling isn't attractive on you.
Your own post/comment shows you were stereotyping black men as pimps. Your words maggie....racist and prejudiced, without a doubt.
And if you were on the 'right' helen would be attacking you for those statements right about now. But she only does that when it's a rightie. Shows her true character...along with your own.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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maggiemuggins
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posted on October 25, 2005 03:08:31 PM
No..not back peddling at all Linda...how did you come up with that conclusion.????
Because I choose not to have a black man in my bed in your mind that makes me prejudice and a person of bad character!!!??
ROFLMAO...
Well, if that's the case.. yep..I sure must be prejudiced and one bad MF then.. cause that will never happen!
Pimp your ride is a TEEVEE show..didn't you know that? So you see it is you're prejudice that took it the wrong way.. ha ha
And this infantile thing you have with Helen is what is embarrassing here on the RT... she really gets to you, doesn't she.. she is light years ahead of you in intelligence and you just can't deal with everyone knowing that, can you.. hee hee...
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 25, 2005 03:23:44 PM
Yes Clinton and if a Democrat wins the next election and things start to go down, we will see all the democrats come and talk about how bad Bush was. LOL
Ron
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 03:27:29 PM
LOL maggie - Still trying to backpeddle....but it's not working.
My close to 5 year relationship with helen....hasn't changed over the years. She is more educated than I am....but that hasn't helped her win many debates/battles with me though. I speak the truth....she hasn't agreed with anything the US has done since we started posting together. I'M the flag waving Republican who is on OUR side....not everyother country in this world who opposes the US.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 03:31:55 PM
That's just NOT going to happen, Ron. They have no platform....except complaining and bitching. They won't win on that.
PLUS - The majority of American's will NEVER elected a democrat who they believe won't defend this country. And even though hillary says she supports staying in Iraq until they can cover themselves.....we all know how she's lied about everything. I doubt she'll get the party nominiation.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on October 25, 2005 03:37:01 PM
Linda,
If the democrats would quit wasting time on windmills and found a candidate that was not John Kerry, then they do have a chance to win the next election.
We need at the very least a time line for leaving. Healthcare will still be a sore point in this next election. Economy is getting stronger but will it be enough?
Ron
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Linda_K
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posted on October 25, 2005 04:11:30 PM
I don't think so Ron. Again...being against everything is NOT a platform.
And who has the media been talking about running for the dem nomination....hillary, gore , kerry and who else? Other names no one's even heard of.
I think IF McCain runs for the Republican ticket...many moderate dems, Independents AND those who make up their mind at the last minute....would chose HIM over any dem. As they wanted him to be VP of THEIR party in 2004.
That's how desperate they are/were....even then.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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colin
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posted on October 25, 2005 06:00:49 PM
I maybe wrong with this but I foresee (in my crystal ball) the mating of Clinton and Sharpton.
(Hold everything... I wasn't making a derogatory remark with the mating. I met running mates.)
I think they will have a strong "FOR THE PEOPLE" platform. with offers of huge benefit packages for the poor and homeless. The middle class will be thanked for taking care of the poor for all these years and asked to do the same under the new government. The rich will be hated for being rich as always.
They will offer a national wage hike to $15.00 per hour so all that aren't working now won't want to work when they are elected. They will say "I ain't workin for mimujuan wage"
The war in Iraq will be shut down and all military brought home so they can fight the terrorist over here...Why? because the boarders will be opened up so all can enjoy and bomb America.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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