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 kraftdinner
 
posted on November 2, 2005 09:03:32 PM
To sum it up, he didn't have much good to say about the state of the world since Bush became President. It's on now if you want to watch it.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 3, 2005 02:21:04 AM
I'm sorry KD...but you have done an unforgiveable thing here....even though you might not even be aware you've done anything wrong.


But to mention a PAST President's name....like Jimmy Carter....is to break the new, unwritten law here. Which is NEVER EVER mention any past President's name....we are ONLY allowed to BASH the current President. NO comparison's about ANY OTHER PRESIDENTS are allowed anymore. lol



[Oh...and to stay on topic....WHO CARES what Carter thinks or says.....they didn't even want him for a second term. ]



"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on November 3, 2005 02:38:51 AM
he didnt happen to mention how he screwed up the Iran rescue did he??




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 Linda_K
 
posted on November 3, 2005 03:08:33 AM
LOL....again....I sure appreciate your good humor...and this early in the morning too.
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edited to add:

carter has HIS nerve... wasn't it during his administration we had those terrible LONG, long, long waits to buy our gas???


And wasn't it during HIS administration that housing mortgage rates were around 16% - 18%? And they've been how LOW under the five years of this administration? 4% 5% 6% 7%????


Yea, let's listen to what carter says THIS administration is doing wrong....right after he discusses what HIS own did that screwed up things so badly.




"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 3, 2005 04:16 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on November 3, 2005 06:46:25 AM
Here's some questions that linda is too cowardly to answer:

Isn't this president who has killed thousands of Americans based on lies?

Isn't it this administration where gas went over $3.00 a gallon and oil companies produced record earnings on American's backs?

Isn't it this president who's staff committed and act of treason by outing a CIA agaent?

Isn't it this president who gave Michael Moore and all the other super rich huge tax breaks?

Doesn't this administration have a high ranking senator who was arrested?

Doesn't the current administration have most of their staff under investigation?

The list goes on and cowards won't answer

 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on November 3, 2005 06:54:58 AM
Isn't this president who has killed thousands of Americans based on lies?

Unproven

Isn't it this administration where gas went over $3.00 a gallon and oil companies produced record earnings on American's backs?

Gas prices are not the responsibility of the government

Isn't it this president who's staff committed and act of treason by outing a CIA agaent?
I asked before, where are the treason charges?

Isn't it this president who gave Michael Moore and all the other super rich huge tax breaks?

Everyone got a tax break, I even got one.

Doesn't this administration have a high ranking senator who was arrested?

Yes and your point is?

Doesn't the current administration have most of their staff under investigation?

No Learn the difference between "most" and "some"
Ron
 
 mingotree
 
posted on November 3, 2005 07:46:50 AM
Oh Ron, how gallant of you to come to the aid of the cowering linda!
Silly answers but at least answers.
I'm sorry but I agree with linda...our president should have protected the American public from being raped at the gas pumps by his close friends in the oil business.

Oh, but your funniest was the "most" and "some" one ...now there's a great defense..."well, your honor, it wasn't the WHOLE staff"



And, Ron, the lies have been proven over and over again......and the world knows it (except for you, linda, and Rush)

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:01:26 AM
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 08:36 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:06:27 AM
From what you've said over time, maggie, it sounds like you've been married to almost everyone.



 
 mingotree
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:09:46 AM
"""wasn't it during his administration we had those terrible LONG, long, long waits to buy our gas???"""

Old "out of two sides of her mouth" linda says the current pres can't control gas prices but tries to lay blame for long lines at the pump on Carter!
Can't you ever make up your mind?



""From what you've said over time, maggie, it sounds like you've been married to almost everyone.""


Jealousy is sooo unbecoming linda OneOff.

[ edited by mingotree on Nov 3, 2005 08:11 AM ]
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:22:02 AM
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 08:36 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:34:23 AM
Hey....no one said you couldn't. Whatever floats your boat.

I could tell you were 'looking' for #5 this past week with the pic you posted.



"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on November 3, 2005 08:54:48 AM
Silly questions get silly answers.


Ron
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on November 3, 2005 09:00:52 AM
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 08:37 PM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 3, 2005 09:05:00 AM
lol good 4 u
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on November 3, 2005 10:09:00 AM
I'm not looking, I'm very happy with the present husband. He is a keeper!


Until he makes you go xmas shopping for him again?

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The real Jimmy Carter, our worse president ever:

Ever the Wonderboy

Mea Culpa: I was one of the pathetic dupes who voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. It seemed the right thing to do at the time, an angry reaction to the Nixon/Watergate mess and the dim-bulb succession of Veep Gerald Ford, a man seemingly better qualified to bolt bumpers on Fords in his native Michigan than to take pratfalls in the White House.

A quarter-century later that brief interlude in the voting booth haunts me while it produces endless amusement for my wife Pamela, who saw the peanut farmer from Plains Georgia for what he was, a nasty, egocentric Lilluput whose Cheshire-cat smile shielded a blurred, disjointed, hopelessly murky and marginally schizophrenic personality that prompted comedian Pat Paulsen to quip, "They wanted to put Carter on Mt. Rushmore, but they didn't have room for two faces."

Steven Hayward is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank populated by few, if any, fans of James Earle Carter, Jr. Yet Hayward the scholar assaults the ex-president not with the hyperbole of an arch-critic or political foe, but with the scalpel cuts of an academic surgeon, carefully dissecting the little man's political career and his more recent love-fests with every degenerate dictator on the planet. While the liberal media have elevated Carter to a position of "America's greatest ex-president" due to his hand-wringing, Chamberlain-like advocacy of peace at any price wrapped in a hopelessly hypocritical mantle of born-again Christianity, Hayward spikes this adoration with a prosecutor's indictment that reveals Carter as a petulant loser whose post-presidency actions often border on the treasonous.

This of course only adds to Carter's appeal among the U.S.-hating European left, who awarded him a Nobel Peace Prize for his Quisling-like behavior -- a display of Yankee baiting unequaled until the year's awarding of the Cannes Film Festival Palm to that fat, socialist crypto-slob Michael Moore for anti-Bush agitprop.

How else can one explain Carter's unconscionable efforts to sabotage the 1990 Gulf War or his cozy relationship with anti-American terrorists like Yasser Arafat, Danny Ortega, Hafez Assad, and the North Korean gangsters? But perhaps his anti-American behavior has nothing to do with politics, but more with jealousies directed at the Bush family and their connections to Ronald Reagan -- the man who squashed him like a hollow cashew in the 1980 presidential election.

One ongoing theme of Hayward's analysis centers on Carter's incredible pettiness and dark penchant for veiled hatred. It was during his failed 1980 presidential campaign that ABC's Barbara Walters noted in an interview, "Mr. President, in recent days you have been characterized as mean, vindictive, and hysterical to the point of desperation."


Hayward thankfully avoids lapses into psychoanalysis while carefully recounting Br'er Jimmy's dismal and often contradictory record as a public and private figure, but he cannot avoid describing a truly bizarre personality. One can not read about how Carter isolated himself from his Democratic cohorts in Congress, his demented selection of peaceniks like Secretary of State Cyrus Vance and arms control chief Paul Warnke, plus lefties like Anthony Lake, Richard Holbrooke, et al., without puzzling over his sanity.

For all his erratic behavior, Jimmy Carter is a fierce duplicitous warrior bent on his own form of success. During the run-up from his father's peanut farm to the governorship of Georgia, he simultaneously courted the axe-wielding racist Lester Maddox and Martin Luther King, Jr. -- a juggling act that deserves high marks for cleverness if not morality.[ Throughout his long career, his toothy smile and cuddly demeanor concealed a knife-edged ruthlessness and propensity to align himself with unsavory characters in behalf of his own glory. Moreover, this wily old fox never hesitated to bloat his résumé, claiming to be a "nuclear physicist" following his service on nuclear submarines.

Carter's Panama Canal giveaway, his obsession with "human rights," his instantly failed Camp David accords, his betrayal of the Shah of Iran, and his botched handling of the 1978 oil crisis all helped to plunge his approval rating to a dismal 25 percent even before he was assaulted by a "killer rabbit" while fishing in Georgia. That loony episode, coupled with his collapse from exhaustion during a 10-kilometer run in suburban Maryland, elevated him to stardom in most stand-up comedians' monologues, a hilarious distraction from his fumbled effort to solve the Iranian hostage mess that was the capstone to his failed presidency.


THE REAL JIMMY CARTER only goes part way in revealing what a hapless dunce (or "grinning dunce" as this magazine memorably labeled him) the subject truly was. Hayward stays the course in dealing with Carter's bungled policy decisions while essentially ignoring his even goofier private life. Almost unmentioned in his steely wife Rosalynn, who hated Washington society as much as it hated her, or his soused, redneck brother Billy and his scraggly daughter, Amy, who plunged into the counterculture at Brown and disappeared forever.

While the White House has sheltered a ragged parade of mountebanks, scoundrels, and poseurs over its two-century history, few have bordered as close to dementia as Jimmy Carter. His erratic behavior, which ranged from the saccharine to canine viciousness, is truly the subject not of Hayward's polite dissection but rather that of a learned psychiatrist. After reading The Real Jimmy Carter, one is led to wonder not only what is wrong with the man's mental state, but what form of dementia seized me and my fellow citizens who gave him 50.1 percent of the popular vote in 1976.

Six weeks before the election Carter admitted in a Playboy interview that he lusted in his heart after women. Most of the major media did not include in their coverage his additional remark, "Christ says, don't consider yourself better than someone else because one guy screws a bunch of woman while the other guy is loyal to his wife." That interview, plus his speech vilifying his fellow citizens for their alleged "malaise," stand as the only memorable remarks to come out of his presidency. Not exactly equal to the Gettysburg Address or Roosevelt's "day of infamy" speech, but branded trademarks of a tenure in the White House of a man who makes Warren G. Harding, U.S. Grant, and even Bill Clinton look like later-day Pericleses by comparison. H.L. Mencken once said that no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people. In my case, during the month of November 1976, he was dead right.



Brock Yates is author, most recently, of Against Death and Time: One Fatal Season in Racing's Glory Years (Thunder's Mouth Press). This review appears in the July-August issue of The American Spectator.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6983


I gave my liberal neighbors son a book for his birthday. He went crazy trying to find where to put the batteries.
 
 MAH645
 
posted on November 3, 2005 10:42:39 AM
I couldn't care less of what Jimmy or his wife think of anything. They were the worst thing other than Clinton to ever be in the White House.
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Two men sit behind bars,one sees mud the other sees stars.
 
 colin
 
posted on November 3, 2005 10:48:49 AM
Jimmy Carter is a great man, surely a real humanitarian.

I believe he may have been the worst President in modern history.

Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on November 3, 2005 11:05:17 AM
Thank-you Colin for being able to separate what Carter did as President and what he's doing now (although my vote for worst President would go to Reagan or Bush Jr.).



 
 mingotree
 
posted on November 3, 2005 11:07:49 AM
OK, let's have more unbiased critiques of past, VERY past, Democratic presidents
Don't forget:
Johnson
Kennedy
Truman
Roosevelt
Wilson
Cleveland
Andy Jackson
Van Buren

C'mon. let's see 'em!
ANYTHING to keep the subject off the CURRENT administration

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on November 3, 2005 11:21:40 AM
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Feb 9, 2006 08:37 PM ]
 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on November 3, 2005 11:43:47 AM
DUH the topic of this thread is Jimmy Carter on Larry King, do you have anything to offer on that subject mingotree?

So discussing Carter is in line with the topic.

I agree with you Colin, his work with Habitat for Humanity is to be commended.
Ron
 
 mingotree
 
posted on November 3, 2005 11:56:52 AM
"""DUH the topic of this thread is Jimmy Carter on Larry King, do you have anything to offer on that subject mingotree?

So discussing Carter is in line with the topic."""




DUH How'd ya figger dat out ron?
WOW! Brilliant observation!


NOW, who said it wasn't ?????

 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on November 3, 2005 12:47:15 PM
Do you have any comments about Carter?
Ron
 
 colin
 
posted on November 3, 2005 12:56:40 PM
I know this is a little off subject,

BUT

is mingotree (crowfart) on the same branch of the same famiy tree as Big (missyturd)???

I see a very similar logic used in their posts.

Of course I call it logic, for use of a better word.

Any suggestions? Forget illogical, unlogical, I’d thought about them but they are not useable in either’s fantasy mind set.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com [ edited by colin on Nov 3, 2005 12:57 PM ]
 
 piinthesky
 
posted on November 3, 2005 01:14:15 PM
I was married to a Carter once and they were fine people!

Maggie, was his name Billy??




 
 classicrock000
 
posted on November 3, 2005 01:49:19 PM
" Do you have any comments about Carter?"

Ron

she doesnt even know who the hell he is



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Beauty is only a light switch away
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on November 3, 2005 01:51:38 PM
"now, you are getting personal...
I was married to a Carter once"


sucks to be you <snicker>




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Beauty is only a light switch away
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 4, 2005 08:22:41 AM
speaking of 'it sucks to be you', classic....I have a questioned I'd like you to answer, if you'd be willing to do so. When you were on vacation and emailing maggie privately, did you ever say to her [about me] that it 'sucks to be her'? Maggie implied on this board you had....and it surprised me that you would say that about me. I really don't believe that you did....but would like to know if it was true or not please.

Thanks, Linda
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 4, 2005 08:24 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on November 4, 2005 08:32:42 AM
Showing a different side of ex-President Carter is this full article:


Something that both dems and KD might be interested in reading.

And a subject that also points out there are MANY democratic leaders who agree with the Republican positions on abortion....and restrictions.
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Carter condemns abortion culture

By Ralph Z. Hallow
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 4, 2005


Former President Jimmy Carter yesterday condemned all abortions and chastised his party for its intolerance of candidates and nominees who oppose abortion.



"I never have felt that any abortion should be committed -- I think each abortion is the result of a series of errors," he told reporters over breakfast at the Ritz-CarltonHotel, while across town Senate Democrats deliberated whether to filibuster the nomination of Judge Samuel A. Alito Jr. because he may share President Bush and Mr. Carter's abhorrence of abortion.


"These things impact other issues on which [Mr. Bush] and I basically agree," the Georgia Democrat said. "I've never been convinced, if you let me inject my Christianity into it, that Jesus Christ would approve abortion."
    


Mr. Carter said his party's congressional leadership only hurts Democrats by making a rigid pro-abortion rights stand the criterion for assessing judicial nominees.


"I have always thought it was not in the mainstream of the American public to be extremely liberal on many issues," Mr. Carter said. "I think our party's leaders -- some of them -- are overemphasizing the abortion issue."
    


While Mr. Carter has previously expressed ambivalence about abortion, his statements yesterday were "astonishing," said Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute at Concerned Women for America.
    

"He has long professed to be an evangelical Christian and yet he had embraced virtually all the liberal political agenda," said Mr. Knight. "Maybe with Jimmy Carter saying things he never uttered before, more liberals will rethink their worship of abortion as the high holy sacrament of liberalism."
    


Running for president in 1976 -- just three years after the Supreme Court's landmark Roe v. Wade decision -- Mr. Carter took a moderate stance. "I think abortion is wrong and that the government ought never do anything to encourage abortion," he said during that campaign. "But I do not favor a constitutional amendment which would prohibit all abortions, nor one that would give states [a] local option to ban abortions."
    


In Washington to promote his latest book, "Our Enduring Values," Mr. Carter acknowledged he made mistakes in office. "I can't deny I'm a better ex-president than I was a president," said Mr. Carter, who in recent years has traveled the globe with his wife Rosalyn, "trying to help hold 61 elections" in developing countries.
    


He has been outspoken in condemning Mr. Bush's policy toward Iraq. "I think all Christians -- and certainly all Baptists -- are different," Mr. Carter said yesterday. "I have a commitment to worship the Prince of Peace, not the Prince of Preemptive War."
    


But he praised Mr. Bush's policy toward war-torn Sudan, and declared that the best treatment he has received since leaving the Oval Office was from the first President Bush, and the second-best treatment he got was during the Reagan administration, especially from Secretary of State George P. Shultz.



The worst treatment he's received, the former president said, was from President Clinton.
    


Mr. Carter said his party lost the 2004 presidential elections and lost House and Senate seats because Democratic leaders failed "to demonstrate a compatibility with the deeply religious people in this country. I think that absence hurt a lot."
    


Democrats must "let the deeply religious people and the moderates on social issues like abortion feel that the Democratic party cares about them and understands them," he said, adding that many Democrats, like him, "have some concern about, say, late-term abortions, where you kill a baby as it's emerging from its mother's womb."

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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
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