posted on November 14, 2005 02:56:48 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to review a ruling that the inscription "In God We Trust" on the front of a government building in North Carolina does not violate church-state separation.
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The justices rejected an appeal of the decision that dismissed a lawsuit by two attorneys who had challenged as unconstitutional the phrase over the main entrance to the county's government center in Lexington, North Carolina.
The phrase, written in 18-inch block letters, was more prominently displayed than the name of the building, which was the only other writing on the front facade, according to the lawsuit.
A U.S. appeals court ruled that the lawsuit failed to show that the display had no legitimate secular purpose, that it has the effect of endorsing religion or that it has resulted in an excessive entanglement of government and religion.
The appeals court said Congress first authorized the phrase "In God We Trust" on coins in 1865, and Congress made it the national motto in 1956. It is inscribed above the speaker's chair in the U.S. House of Representatives and above the main door of the U.S. Senate chamber.
Attorneys for the two lawyers asked the justices to set aside the appeals court's ruling and send the case back for reconsideration in view of the Supreme Court's decision in June that Kentucky courthouses violated church-state separation by putting copies of the Ten Commandments on display.
The high court rejected the appeal without any comment or recorded dissent.
posted on November 14, 2005 03:02:37 PM
CLAPPING.....clapping away. Glad they refused to hear it.
I'd bet that one of those lawyers might be Newdow....as I heard today that he's also going to take to court the "In God We Trust" on our coinage now too.
posted on November 14, 2005 04:25:57 PM
LOL....NO rusty....just the opposite is true and you know it.
Our coins had been that way since the 1800's.
Our pledge had included that too....for all these years.
Each state, as they became part of the Union....has the Lords name in their Constitutions.
GET REAL....for ONCE. It's you atheists that want to change what's been there since our Founding Fathers drew up our Constitution.....YOU are the one's now changing it all.
YOU are in the minority....as atheists....and I'm personally glad to see this exact same thing happen....each and every time it does.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on November 14, 2005 04:51:33 PMOur pledge had included that too....for all these years.
Wrong. The original pledge as it was written in 1892 is as follows:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
"Under God" was not added to the pledge until 1954 after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus.
In your old age Linda, 1954 does seem like 1800's to you.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on November 14, 2005 05:05:55 PM
Tonight on Fox News they were also mentioning this idiot...ONE IDIOT in N.M. who wants the town of Los Crusis to remove the three crosses from all they town/cities EVERYTHING.
For crying out loud....that's the name of their town. But his idiot is offended.
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logansdad...you're not telling me anything I haven't posted over and over on these topic discussions for the past 5 years.
But....the liberals want to claim that although there is no mention of abortion so-called-'right's in the Constitution nor bill of rights....that PRECIDENT has been set.
Well...if that's the case.....PRECIDENT on our coins was set about 20+ years BEFORE that.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on November 14, 2005 05:07:09 PMOur coins had been that way since the 1800's.
Um, not exactly Linda, it began in about 1837, but was very spotty until just 1938
Our pledge had included that too....for all these years.
You're mistaken there, too. "Under God" was added to the pledge in 1954. Within your lifetime, I'm bettin'.
The original pledge, written in 1882 by Rev. Francis Bellamy, an active Christian Socialist, read as follows:
I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
So let's see, 1954 minus 1882 is 72 years. 2005 minus 1954 is 51 years....huh...looks to me like the pledge spent about twenty years longer without God in it than it has with.
It's real easy to paint with a broad brush and make folks think that God has just always been a part of our pledge and our money, but it's just not so.
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posted on November 14, 2005 05:25:16 PM
"for all these years."
Nice Linda. Now, be honest because I know you know the truth... When was it changed, and for what reason? Come on... You can do it... Admit the truth.
"One Nation Under God" was added into the Pledge for one reason, and worse yet, it was based on a propagandist lie. It was added during the Cold War because, according to our government, the Communists were heathens without religious faith. But, of course... Linda wouldn't want to put that information out there.
posted on November 14, 2005 05:33:07 PM
"And being sporatic doesn't change a thing....my statement was correct....historically."
Linda, are you talking about the "historic document", the PDB that Bush ignored on August 10... You know the one... "Bin Laden determined to strike US"? The one that if he would have been doing his job, we may not have had 9/11 to commemorate.
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posted on November 14, 2005 06:08:07 PM
I personally don't give a rat's behind about any of this but it is fun to see linda go nuts over it...how anyone can get so worked up over it ?????
""The original pledge, written in 1882 by Rev. Francis Bellamy, an active Christian Socialist, ""
posted on November 14, 2005 06:18:42 PM
I feel comfortable with generic reference to God as in 'under God' and 'In God we trust', but feel there should be a halt to inclusion of sectarian religious symbols in governmental buildings, structures, and public lands. I also am uncomfortable with the cross as a symbol for chaplains in the military services and on emergency vehicles. How about the all seeing eye or somepin'?
I do not believe in double standards and I do not want the ragheads to have the right to say, "You do it." I want it to be understood that such items are there as a historical object rather than what we do today. In cases such as the crest for 'The City Of Angels' it is entirely appropriate to remove representations of religious significance to show our intent in separation of church and state.
This is important.
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The Islamofascist fig-puckers are fighting to spread their culture and religion, and to destroy ours
posted on November 14, 2005 07:34:52 PM
Well.....Maggie's back in town!!!
How nice....now everyone can see for themselves that the way kiara and helen tried to make everyone believe I had reported maggie for no reason.....can see them with EGG all over their BIG MOUTHS. LOL
posted on November 14, 2005 07:38:28 PM
LIAR-LINDA_K,
I have no idea why your clapping.
Ron's post said "The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to review a ruling that the inscription "In God We Trust" on the front of a government building in North Carolina does not violate church-state separation.
We can all see from your mindset,posts,words and LIES that you don't follow God's word or ways. So why are you being a hypocrite pretending this ruling is important to you?
WHERE YA GOING TO RUN TO,WHERE YA GOING TO HIDE LIAR-LINDA_K.
posted on November 14, 2005 07:46:03 PM
Geese Linda, I didn't know you cared!
I've had computer server problems up and down and then I caught the bloody bird flu or something and have been spewing from every orifice for the past 4 days..really unattractive, if I say so myself....
posted on November 14, 2005 07:50:55 PM
Well maggie...I've said many a time here that we all bring something of ourself to these threads.....you included.
Many here enjoy you...your posts.
It's just that cheryl, helen and kiara have a way [snotty way] of trying to put the blame on me when anyone isn't here for a short period of time. They have once again proved themselves to be liars....by insisting I answer TO THEM on whether or not you weren't here BECAUSE I reported you.....God only knows what they THOUGHT my reasons would be for having done so .....but doesn't matter now.
You returning has proved them to be the bissy bodies they truely are.
posted on November 14, 2005 08:00:21 PM
Well.. look at the bright side of it, Linda..
You were so sure that we all had formed a network to email each other to plot against you...now you know that isn't true.. or Helen and Kiara would have known I was on sick leave...!
As far as anyone thinking that you had thrown me under the bus...isn't such a stretch, after all, you have threatened others often and everyone knows how wonderfully fond you are of me..
posted on November 14, 2005 08:10:40 PM
OH.....LOL....going to stick up for the sh1t distrubers, huh? figures.
YOU and THEY don't have the ability to tell the difference between giving a poster a 'warning' and actually doing so...IF they continue AFTER being warned.
That probably comes as most liberals are that way....all talk/threats but no follow through. The right...follow through on their promises/threats.
One more difference between the two groups.
And on the email....you can pretend ALL you want that emails aren't going back and forth between SOME posters here.....I've been here WAY to long to believe that nonsense....plus some have admitted it themselves.
Dream on maggie.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
