posted on November 30, 2005 08:18:29 PM new
In Bush's speech today it took him 27 seconds to say the word terrorist. Good old George is always trying to tie his Iraq War to 9/11.
SO WHAT'S NEW George,we already know after Iraq elections a few thousand troops will come home "if conditions permit".
We already know "if conditions permit" several more thousand will come home sometime in 2006.
With these already planed withdrawals America will still have 100,000 or more troops in Iraq.
posted on December 1, 2005 10:02:47 AM new
Well....MY good news seems to have sent peepa's blood pressure soaring up about 80 points. lol
Yep, peepa, the President reminded YOU once again....as kerry and h. clinton have also stated....we will stay there until they can defend their own country....as long as HE is our CIC.
Get used to it.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on December 1, 2005 10:29:21 AM new
You got 'em pretty defensive, Bigpeepa! Ron even has to attack your penis
Pretty funny coming from a guy sooooo sensitive about name calling
Oh, and BTW, many Republicans are starting to turn against bushy, too but I'm glad to see linda agreeing more and more with Democrats like Clinton and Kerry
posted on December 1, 2005 10:35:53 AM new
Didn't attack anything, merely posted a comment from the EO
If you think it applies to peepa that is your business, but then you won't take credit for any comments you make.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 1, 2005 10:42:39 AM new
What issue? The one where peepa can't understand a simple presidential speech? His seemingly compulsive/obsessive behavior toward President Bush? His lacking a knowledge of actual world events and national policies? His continuous mundane knee jerk reactions with no substance?
Which issue are you talking about? Or your issues?
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 1, 2005 11:48:41 AM new
From human events online:
"Indeed, the case for significant progress in Iraq is compelling and has proven the naysayers wrong each step of the way."
Three years ago, the possibility of Iraqis going to the polls to vote for a provisional, unified government to begin writing a new constitution was dismissed by critics as highly unlikely. Iraq was too divided and too fearful of the terrorist death squads to conduct a credible election.
But Iraqis turned out in droves at the polls despite the dangers, bravely dipping their finger into the purple ink to show they voted, and a tenuous provisional government was born.
Then we heard new predictions from the chattering class that Iraq was too divided to agree on a governing constitution and that the country was plunging toward civil war. Wrong again. The major parties, Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis, defying all odds, agreed on a document that was not perfect, but, like our own founding fathers, used murky language to paper over disputes while preserving a sense of unity that was pivotal to the emerging national government.
That was followed by a litany of pessimistic predictions and fears that the constitution would be voted down by a majority vote in at least three provinces. But that didn't happen, either. In fact, the constitution won a fairly strong vote of approval, despite terrorist death threats against anyone who voted for it.
Now the Iraqis are approaching the third and critical step in the creation of a permanent government with the elections of a national legislature and new leadership on Dec. 15. Yet again, we hear the familiar voices of what Spiro Agnew once called the "nattering nabobs of negativism" who say that Iraq is still too divided and inexperienced to overcome the terrorists in its midst.
Yet thousands of candidates are running for several hundred seats in the new parliament, and some will be assassinated as a result as the death squads step up their suicide bombings as the election draws near. Many of those at risk of assassination are Sunnis who spurned the elections earlier but are now joining in for fear of being left out of the power struggle.
Whatever happens between now and then, the election will take place, a legislature will be chosen, and the terrorists will suffer yet another severe defeat in the political arena.
The election's message to the terrorists: you can kill some of us, even many of us, but you can't kill all of us, and you cannot defeat the movement toward an independent, free and democratic government.
We've all heard the polling questions that tell us a strong majority of Americans now think that Bush's decision to go into Iraq was a mistake. In light of the climbing toll of U.S. casualties, that view is an understandable one. But some polls ask a related question that suggests another view.
One poll, conducted last month by the bipartisan RT Strategies, asked Americans if the immediate withdrawal of U.S. forces in Iraq would help or hurt troop morale. A stunning 70 percent said a precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces would hurt morale over there while 14 percent said it would help.
This strongly suggests that Americans want to finish what we've started, that they want to give the Iraqi government every chance to show they're capable of taking over their own security. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice thinks that day will come "fairly soon."
We've counted the Iraqis people out too many times, only to see them face down the terrorists in election after election to achieve representative government. That's reason enough to be optimistic about the challenge we face there just as the Iraqis are poised to hold the most important election in their country's history.
[HUMAN EVENTS]
So....old peepa, just because our liberal media refuses to write about our successes in Iraq....doesn't mean they aren't happening. They are....and will continue to do so under the GREAT leadership of this President.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on December 1, 2005 12:01:35 PM new
"Most reporting is not designed to lead Americans to this conclusion, and you have to admire the steadfastness of the 30 percent to 40 percent of Americans still supporting our presence in Iraq in the face of a daily barrage of bad news, and calls from Democrats like Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania that Americans troops should be brought home with all due dispatch.
From most media you would not know that the uprising of crazed fundamentalists under Abu Musab al Zarqawi along with elements of the former Saddam Hussein regime is focused in four of Iraq's 18 provinces. What happens in the other 14 is not news, of course.
Today in Annapolis, President Bush will be giving yet another major speech on progress and U.S. strategy in Iraq. Americans are thirsty for good news from Iraq about accomplishments they know are taking place, from friends and family who are serving there, but never see reported. Speaking at the Heritage Foundation on Monday, for instance, Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt spoke about the promise shown by the 200,000 Iraqi police and military, who have now been trained and who are fighting hard alongside American troops. A big element in future success is that Iraqi troops can now be left behind to guard villages where insurgents have been defeated, which wipes out rebel strongholds methodically one after the other.
Now, the president's critics will dismiss any good news as propaganda.
In yet another blast at the president, veteran Bush-basher Sy Hersh writes in the New Yorker, "Many of the military's most senior generals are deeply frustrated, but they say nothing in public, because they don't want to jeopardize their careers." He quotes — anonymously, of course — a former defense official as saying that the administration has "so terrified the generals that they know they won't go public."
Which is why one has to give thanks for the courage of Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who often stands out as one of the few honest men in Washington. On Monday, Mr. Lieberman broke ranks with the Democratic Party to speak publicly of what he witnessed during his fourth visit to Iraq, over Thanksgiving. "The country is now going from Saddam Hussein to self-government and, I'd add, self-protection," Mr. Lieberman said. "About two-thirds of the country is in really pretty good shape." Signs of life returning to normal are the profusion of satellite dishes on rooftops and cell phones everywhere. "Overall, I came back encouraged."
Furthermore, in a long article yesterday in the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Lieberman warned about the consequences of withdrawing U.S. troops too soon. "More work needs to be done of course, but the Iraqi people are in reach of a watershed transformation from the primitive, killing tyranny of Saddam to modern, self-governing, self-securing nationhood — unless the great American military that has given them and us this unexpected opportunity is prematurely withdrawn."
Spot on, Mr. Lieberman.
Let us not snatch defeat in Iraq from the jaws of victory.
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Helle Dale is director of the Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign Policy Studies at the Heritage Foundation.
First appeared in The Washington Times
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on December 1, 2005 12:09:41 PM new
from Acuracy in Media website:
Traitors in the Media
By Cliff Kincaid | December 1, 2005
My visit to a local gun show found one booth full of photos from Iraq that were described as being censored by the U.S. news media. They show American soldiers assisting the Iraqi people, especially children. Listen to the radio version Send this page to a friend Format this page for printing
Congressman John Murtha, the veteran who turned against the Iraq War, has become a household name.
But odds are you haven't heard of Thomas L. Bock. He's a veteran who is critical of media coverage of the war. He says controversial things like "Today's media-hungry war-protest movement is an anti-freedom movement."
Actually, Bock is more than a veteran; he's National Commander of the American Legion, the largest veterans organization. Bock is also a Blue Star dad. His son, Adam, is an Army CH-47 helicopter pilot currently serving in Iraq.
In an editorial appearing in the December issue of the American Legion magazine, Bock writes that "The call to prematurely withdraw U.S. troops from the war on terrorism will quite likely—as public opposition to the Vietnam War showed us—have the unintended consequence of prolonging the fight. Ho Chi Minh described the antiwar movement in the 1960s as a second front in his march to relieve South Vietnam of its freedoms."
Last summer, Bock noted, the Legion adopted Resolution 169, urging veterans to speak out for freedom and "counter a movement that discredits those now serving in harm's way."
A strong voice against the Murtha position comes from Col. Brett Wyrick, a surgeon deployed in Iraq. He says, "I wish there was not a war, and I wish our young people did not have to fight and die.
But I cannot wish away evil men like bin Laden and al-Zarqawi…The last thing we need here in Iraq is an exit strategy or some damn time table for withdrawal. Thank God there was no timetable for withdrawal after the Battle of the Bulge or Iwo Jima. Thank God there was no exit strategy at Valley Forge. Freedom is not easy, and it comes with a terrible price."
Our media enjoy that freedom. They use it to run phony Koran-in-the-toilet stories that kill people and make it harder for our troops to win.
My visit to a local gun show found one booth full of photos from Iraq that were described as being censored by the U.S. news media. They show American soldiers assisting the Iraqi people, especially children. You can view them at the site of KCEN-TV of central Texas. http://www.kcentv.com/1stcav-arch.html
The sponsor of the booth said he had five members of his family in the Armed Forces, including two sons in Iraq. The sign over the photos said, "The traitors in the media and Congress want to repeat Vietnam. Don't allow it."
Judging by the number of people viewing the exhibit, there is public interest in what the media are not telling us.
Another message posted on the exhibit said, "The media want Hillary elected. They want you to think the war is bad so you will turn against President Bush."
I purchased a bumper sticker at the booth. It said, "Freedom of the press does not mean the right to lie." Perhaps the public can help stop the lies.
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Cliff Kincaid is the Editor of the AIM Report
Traitors in the Media
By Cliff Kincaid
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 1, 2005 12:14 PM ]
posted on December 1, 2005 12:32:58 PM new
LIAR-LINDA_K,
Again, WHAT'S NEW? We already know what members of the right and right wing web sites have said over and over again. I ASKED YOU. WHAT'S NEW IN BUSH'S SPEECH???
His speech and your posts sounds like the same old stuff. I didn't find one word in your post that we haven't all heard time after time.
Liar-Linda_K, Your post mentioned Spiro Agnew, President Nixon's V.P. This is what happened to that pair of crooks.
On August 9, 1974, Richard Nixon joined Spiro Agnew in making theirs the first presidential and vice-presidential team in history to resign from office.
FYI Liar-Linda_K, Here is just a couple new facts about Bush's Iraq War. America now has 2100 DEAD TROOPS and still counting plus Bush needs MORE MONEY to support his and Cheney's war.
posted on December 1, 2005 01:07:38 PM new
So what's fairly new is the VOTE where 403-3 voted for us to REMAIN in Iraq...no early withdrawal/no admitting defeat that you would have liked to see go differently. Too bad...so sad...for you and all who would like to give a win to our enemies.
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Ron - He'll never see that in himself. He IS a broken record.
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"To all who wear the uniform, I make you this pledge: America will not run in the face of car bombers and assassins so long as I am your commander in chief," Mr. Bush said. "We will stay as long as necessary to complete the mission."
The speech was interrupted by applause two dozen times by thousands of cadets in Navy blue and gold uniforms who packed into Alumni Hall to hear the president.
"Some are calling for a deadline for withdrawal," Mr. Bush said. "Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a message across the world that America is a weak and an unreliable ally.
"Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would send a signal to our enemies -- that if they wait long enough, America will cut and run and abandon its friends," he added. "Setting an artificial deadline to withdraw would vindicate the terrorists' tactics of beheadings and suicide bombings and mass murder -- and invite new attacks on America."
The president was responding to a call by Rep. John P. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, for a pullout of all U.S. forces to start immediately and end within six months. The proposal was endorsed yesterday by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, although a similar House measure was recently defeated 403-3.
Also opposing the Murtha proposal are Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who jointly delivered the Democratic response to the president's speech.
"Neither Jack nor I agree with the particular choice he made," Mr. Kerry said of Mr. Murtha.
Nor does Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut Democrat, whose opposition to a pullout was praised by the president yesterday.
"Senator Lieberman is right," Mr. Bush said. "Pulling our troops out before they've achieved their purpose is not a plan for victory."
White House strategists are pleased to see so many Democrats opposing the Murtha proposal because it leaves the Democratic Party split over a pullout, which in recent weeks has emerged as the most hotly debated aspect of the war.
By contrast, Republicans remain united against a withdrawal.
Mr. Bush pointed out that U.S. troop levels have recently been increased from 137,000 to 160,000 in preparation for Dec. 15 elections in Iraq. But he hinted that those numbers would soon come back down and gave his most detailed progress report on the training of Iraqi forces to take up the slack.
The president became visibly emotional yesterday when telling the story of Marine Cpl. Jeff Starr,
the story the NYT did a great job of totally distorting his message in the event of his own death [/i]shame on the NYT once again[/i].
..."who was killed while fighting terrorists in Ramadi earlier this year. The president read from a letter that was found on the dead Marine's laptop computer.
"If you're reading this, then I've died in Iraq," Cpl. Starr wrote. "I don't regret going. Everybody dies, but few get to do it for something as important as freedom."
"It may seem confusing why we are in Iraq," he added. "It's not to me. I'm here helping these people, so they can live the way we live -- not to have to worry about tyrants or vicious dictators."
"Others have died for my freedom," he concluded. "Now this is my mark."
And that he did....brave young man....with obvious character older than his young years
After reciting this passage, Mr. Bush said: "There is only one way to honor the sacrifice of Cpl. Starr and his fallen comrades -- and that is to take up their mantle, carry on their fight, and complete their mission."
[taken from the WA Times]
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on December 1, 2005 01:10:14 PM new
When you become president mingotree, you can do things your way.
Until that time, the man in charge is doing things his way and actually it hasn't turned out all that badly. Better than if some other person had won the election I am betting.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 1, 2005 03:44:43 PM new
Reading the replies from Liar-Linda_K and Mr.Washington its easy to see how Bush has reduced his supporters to a bunch of babbling neocons.
So babble on Bush supporters just like the Babylonians babbled on. YES!!!
YOUR ONLY PROBLEM IS LESS AND LESS AMERICANS ARE BELIEVING YOUR AND BUSH'S WORDS.
lol
[/i]shame on the NYT once again[/i].