posted on February 7, 2006 05:58:14 PM new
Carter proves again why he was the worse American President by using King's funeralk for hus own political gain.
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Bush Praises King for Changing the Country
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer Tue Feb 7, 5:10 PM ET
LITHONIA, Ga. -
President Bush, leading the nation in celebrating the life of Coretta Scott King, praised the civil rights leader for enduring extraordinary pain and loss to give generations of people "a better, more welcoming country."
We knew Mrs. King in all the seasons, and there was grace and beauty in every season," Bush said at a New Birth Missionary Baptist Church service Tuesday that was attended by four presidents and a crowd of thousands.
"As a great movement of history took shape," Bush said, "her dignity was a daily rebuke to the pettiness and cruelty of segregation."
Bush noted that Mrs. King and the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., her husband who was assassinated nearly 40 years ago, confronted vicious taunts, threatening phone calls and even the bombing of their home because of their early work for equal rights for blacks. Even after her husband's slaying and in the years since, she never gave up, he said.
"Coretta had every right to count the costs and step back from the struggle," the president said. "But she decided that her children needed more than a safe home — they needed an America that upheld their equality and wrote their rights into law. And because this young mother and father were not intimidated, millions of children they would never meet are now living in a better more welcoming country."
The funeral took on political overtones as former President Carter said of the Kings: "It was difficult for them then personally with the civil liberties of both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret government wiretaps." Later, he said that Hurricane Katrina showed that all are not yet equal in America.
And both Bush and his father winced as they sat behind the pulpit and heard the Rev. Joseph Lowery, who co-founded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King Jr., take several jabs at foreign and domestic policies.
"We know there were no weapons of mass destruction over there, but Coretta knew and we knew there are weapons of misdirection right down here," Lowery said, complaining that were far too many in the U.S. are living in poverty and without health care insurance.
"For war, billions more, but no more for the poor," Lowery continued, a take-off of a lyric from the song "A Time to Love" which drew a roaring standing ovation.
Bush's father tried to defuse any political tension by joking that Lowery used to challenge him when he was president, too.
"I kept score in the Oval Office desk — Lowery 21, Bush 3," former President George H.W. Bush said. "It wasn't a fair fight."
The audience showed where its allegiance lay when former
President Clinton and his wife, Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, came to the podium to wild cheers and a long standing ovation. He opened by saying that he was honored to be with the other former presidents. Someone in the crowd yelled out, "Future president!" in reference to his wife's possible 2008 bid.
"We can honor Dr. King's sacrifice,"
Bill Clinton said. "We can help his children fulfill their legacy. ... Every one of us are in a way the children of Martin Luther and Coretta Scott King."
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
posted on February 7, 2006 08:15:10 PM new
Mrs. King would never have shied from expression of political opinion. This was a private funeral, not a state one. the speakers had every right to say exactly what they thought. The President had to sit and squirm through his toasting....Jimmy Carter did something for "his political good"?? What, he's running for office? He gives a crap what the body politic thinks? Why????
An uncontrolled speaking engagement with the President actually present and forced to squirm through the whole thing. I for one, LOVED IT.
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posted on February 8, 2006 12:39:09 AM new
"""The audience showed where its allegiance lay when former
President Clinton and his wife, Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton, came to the podium to wild cheers and a long standing ovation."""
posted on February 8, 2006 03:15:23 PM new
Rev.Joseph Lowery NOT CARTER said
“We know there were no weapons of mass destruction over there/ But Coretta knew and we knew that there are weapons of misdirection right down here / Millions without health insurance, poverty abounds/ For war, billions more, but no more for the poor.”
HEY BEAR DO YA WANT MORE REMARKS DIRECTED AT YOUR PRESIDENT THAT FOR ONCE WAS OUT OF HIS PROTECTED BUBBLE?
posted on February 8, 2006 09:12:21 PM new
Carter needs to take his bag of peanuts and go home. That old fart don't have a clue, he is as bad as Pat Roberson.
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Two men sit behind bars,one sees mud the other sees stars.
posted on February 8, 2006 10:05:15 PM newCarter proves again why he was the worse American President by using King's funeralk for hus own political gain.
He forgot that clinton did the same thing [the wiretapping]. Funny how they don't mention that.
But the others dems made fools of themselves too, imo. Only the two clinton presidents LOL kept their speech focused, imo.
It was a funeral for crying-out-loud. But I'm beginning to see a pattern here with the dems....funerals are really political events for them....they did almost the same thing at [what was his name?] Wellington's??, Wellstone's funeral...the radical who died in that plane crash.
Very low class imo. Honor the dead...don't USE them for your own political purposes.
posted on February 9, 2006 01:19:30 AM new
Ha hahahahahaaaaa! The Democrats made political comments at the funeral of a POLITICAL EQUAL RIGHTS activist !
The Repugs made a political issue out of Terry Schiavo...not exactly a political anything!
Hahahahahha!
Hey, I bet that HUGE ovation for the Clinton's really burned your collective BUTTS!HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Well, they DID it ..without bush, nor YOU, in control !
It WAS a big POWERFUL political statement AGAINST bush
Hahahaa!
Hope the Democrats keep it up ...irritating the repugs!
[ edited by mingotree on Feb 9, 2006 01:19 AM ]
posted on February 9, 2006 10:18:12 AM new
Sheepa, your idols showed just how little respect they have for Mrs King by using her funeral as a political stepping stone.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
posted on February 9, 2006 02:04:24 PM new
"Only you would consider Mrs Kings funeral ceremony an appropriate forum for political discourse." - Bear
"It was a funeral for crying-out-loud. But I'm beginning to see a pattern here with the dems....funerals are really political events for them...." Lindumb@ss
So, what exactly should they talk about? King didn't support Bush, they simply expressed similar beliefs at her funeral. A funeral doesn't have rules, as you idiots seem to think there should be. And it is only you stupid neocons who support Bush that seem to think it was inappropriate. Those in attendance didn't seem to mind, in fact, they applauded. It was only GW who was squirming, and rightfully so.
"they did almost the same thing at [what was his name?] Wellington's??, Wellstone's funeral...the radical who died in that plane crash."
Lindumb@ss' assesment that Paul Wellstone was a radical is laughable.
"It's a good thing that Billy Carter wasn't there.....with his own beer!"
Wasn't that the Conservative mantra during the late 70's??? If that is the best you can come up with again Carter, then Piin is nothing more than a pinhead.
"Sheepa, your idols showed just how little respect they have for Mrs King by using her funeral as a political stepping stone."
I highly doubt that Coretta was disappointed in the speakers. It was pretty evident that those who were present supported the words of President Carter, Rev. Lowery. etc. Only you neocons, the right winged nutcase talking heads, and the Bush's were offended.
Your feeble attempts to smear Democrats and Progressives are shortsighted and weak.
It's not who Colin chooses to love, but rather that he found someone willing to accept him for who he is...
posted on February 9, 2006 02:08:59 PM new
Oh yes lets admire a woman whose husband had many affairs right in front of her and she just took it.
I am surprised someone like you mingotree would be "proud" of a woman who knew her place behind her man.
Ron
"I'm so depressed. My doctor refused to write me a
prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting
a new flagpole on a condemned building."
posted on February 9, 2006 02:10:30 PM new
Rusty, glad to see you and your new husband are still together.
On subject:
The truth about Jimmy Carter http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41079
by Joseph Farah
Jimmy Carter says President Bush is exploiting the suffering of Sept. 11 and has turned back decades of efforts to make the world a safer place.
Let me say this: If I had any doubts about Bush's efforts in Iraq, they would be gone the minute Jimmy Carter attacked them.
Jimmy Carter has, to my knowledge, never been right about any foreign policy moves in his long political life – and certainly not as president.
Let me tell you about what Jimmy Carter knows first-hand about political exploitation of suffering and making the world a safer place.
A new documentary, "In the Face of Evil," shows just how Carter himself, as president, tried to exploit the power of his office and the suffering of hundreds of millions living under the iron hand of Soviet oppression to undercut his challenger in 1980 – Ronald Reagan.
Carter, according to the movie's Soviet sources, tried to get Leonid Brezhnev to help him defeat Reagan. He sought the help of this foreign totalitarian – a murderer and a tyrant – because he feared the loss of the White House.
He told Brezhnev that Reagan was a risk to begin a nuclear war if he won the presidency – an irresponsible, treasonous statement that surely brought the world closer to nuclear war.
It's a shocking story – and just one of the explosive revelations of this magnificent movie now playing in select theaters in New York and Washington.
Carter was an appeaser unlike any previous U.S. president.
He signed one agreement after another with the Soviet Union that served only to diminish U.S. power in the world because we lived up to the agreements and the other side didn't.
He had no problem destroying the ability of the U.S. military to fight because he didn't trust American arrogance.
He told us we had to co-exist with what his successor would call "The Evil Empire" and accept that those under its dominion would be slaves for the rest of their lives.
He told Americans they had an unwarranted fear of communism.
And that's why he served one disastrous term.
Carter was bad for the economy. He was bad for the military. He was bad for America. He left the country in a shambles – demoralized, broke, directionless.
Carter must be hoping the majority of Americans have forgotten what life was like under his presidency. For those of you who don't remember, life was not good by any measure. We waited in gas lines for fuel. America was on the retreat around the world. The Soviet Union was advancing on all fronts.
Even Carter seemed to grasp that something was wrong toward the end of his first term. So he famously blamed Americans rather than himself. He told us we were living in a "malaise." He didn't understand that he was the primary cause of that malaise.
Nor has his understanding of politics improved any in the last 24 years.
Someone once said charitably that Carter was a great "ex-president." But that was a long time ago. That was when he was building homes for the poor through Habitat for Humanity. Lately, he has joined the chorus of the most radical wing of his shameless, treacherous, un-American party.
The truth is, Carter is no better as an "ex-president" than he was as a president.
He's an embarrassment. He's a clown. He's a joke.
It's almost difficult for some of us who survived his presidency to believe we once elected this Georgia peanut farmer to the highest office in the land. I was one of the idiots who voted for him – twice. Believe me, it's not easy to admit it.
But Carter's advice does, perhaps, serve a useful purpose: We should listen carefully to what he says – and always do the opposite
posted on February 9, 2006 02:14:22 PM new
Ohhh Mr Gumbo, (Dblf ) didn't I see your friends, the eco terrorists, in the news again here sometime in the recent past? Has the FBI gotten in contact with you yet to discuss your personal friendships and support of them?
posted on February 9, 2006 02:19:37 PM new
If that is adressed to me who the hell is twelve? Oh yeah I forgot that is part of your little game that you can't understand the conversation you call the other party someone else.
So little imagination but dope use does that.
Woman was a lady such cannot be said about you.
Ron
"I'm so depressed. My doctor refused to write me a
prescription for Viagra. He said it would be like putting
a new flagpole on a condemned building."
posted on February 9, 2006 02:26:01 PM new
I don't know Ron, I think I kinda have to agree with Kraft on this one. Sorry buddy but you can't blame a woman for her husbands affairs and how do you know that she just took it? You have no way possible of knowing what they spoke of in private or if they discussed his affairs between each other.
posted on February 9, 2006 02:33:19 PM new
Craw, this is how much you care about King & her allies:
Your fellow demos were the first to wire tap MLK & Coretta.
After the good reverend finished equating U.S. troops with terrorists – a section that drew a two-minute-long standing ovation at a funeral – Jimmy Carter tried his hand at it. Crying crocodile tears, Carter said everyday life became “difficult for them then personally with the civil liberties of both husband and wife violated as they became the target of secret government wiretaps.” That, too, drew applause. (Later, the same crowd heartily cheered Ted Kennedy, whose brother, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, approved the secret government wiretapping that made the Kings’ lives so “difficult.”)
In addition to co-founding the SCLC with Martin Luther King Jr. in the 1950s, Rev. Joseph Lowery served as that organization’s president for two decades (1977-97).
And the good Rev Lowery?
Shortly after assuming leadership of the organization, Lowery chose to embrace two of the world’s foremost terrorists: Yasser Arafat and Moammar Qaddafi. In September 1979, Lowery, NAACP President Benjamin Hooks, and future NAACP President Julian Bond went on a whirlwind trip of the Muslim Street. As part of their festivities, the trio bestowed Libya’s terrorist-in-chief with “The Decoration of Martin Luther King.” Lowery also met with Yasser Arafat in Lebanon. When an American interviewer asked Lowery, “Do you accept the popular image of the PLO as a bunch of terrorists?” he responded in pre-Clinton fashion:
Well, that depends on how you define terrorists…I don't mind calling them terrorists. I don't mind because I also call Begin a terrorist…the PLO is not just a bunch of terrorists.
Responding to backlash from Jewish members of the civil rights community, he called on Jews to engage in a “less paternalistic relationship” with blacks. “We didn't need the Jewish community, the State Department, or even President Carter to give us permission” to buss Muslim genocidalists. Asked “What do you think motivates U.S. policy on the Mideast?” he responded, “The administration is responding to a very strong Jewish lobby.”
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
posted on February 9, 2006 02:36:25 PM new
Yeah I forgot the divorce said she disagreed and would not stand for it.
She was typical of the real ladies of that era and stood by her man for better or worse. I am surprised that the supposed stong willed women of this board would support someone like that.
Not blaming her, but to think she would of been any signifigance if Dr. King had lived is relevent.
She took advantage of an opportunity thrust upon her at the time but actually did little after his death.
Ron
"If you can't refute the words, accuse the poster of being someone else."
posted on February 9, 2006 02:57:51 PM new
Bear's,Ron's,Colin's along with LIAR_K's only problem is their BUBBLE BOY got caught OUTSIDE of his 100% protective bubble.
I SAY WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD BUBBLE BOY.
How CHEAP can Bush and the Conservative Lawmakers get? They are trying to do away with the FINAL S.S. CHECK of only $255.00 that is a final death benefit to a surviving spouse. That is beyond greed its sick.
These creeps will do anything to the poor and middle class. They have no SHAME in their effort to FEED THE RICH AND INDUSTRY.
posted on February 9, 2006 03:21:02 PM new
The best thing that the neocons do is push their "opinions" upon everybody else, to the point where it suffocates everything in sight. That will be the unfortunate everlasting imprint of Conservatism.... Selfish, Greedy, and Self-righteousness.
Case in point... Every single neocon here claiming that it was disgraceful to Coretta Scott King's funeral. Just curious, but what give you dirtbags the right to claim what is disgraceful during a private funeral? What gives you neocons the right to harrass, break the law, etc. during a woman's last days of life (Terri Shiavo)? You people are pathetic to think that your beliefs are solely what is appropriate, especially when it involves the lives of someone else. You have absolutely no respect for anyone in this world. You are more interested in ramming your agenda down the throats of everybody else, even if they don't want to accept it, their religious beliefs don't buy into it, or whatever other reason they have. You have no respect for an individuals choice, only your own. It is sick, sad, and self-righteous.
It's not who Colin chooses to love, but rather that he found someone willing to accept him for who he is...
[ edited by rustygumbo on Feb 9, 2006 03:22 PM ]
posted on February 9, 2006 03:29:15 PM new
Hey rusty, why don't you go back to the other board and quit sneeking back here just to stir the pot. What name do you post with over there? You don't even have the decency to use the same user id, you have to use subterfuge with a different name on each board. How utterly pathetic you are.
