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 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 08:04:48 AM new
Nagen's latest ploy for reelection...

New Orleans Mayor Blocks FEMA Trailer Park

NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Mayor Ray Nagin suspended the construction of FEMA trailer parks in the city after a confrontation between federal workers and homeowners who were outraged that a government trailer park was being built inside their gated community.

With an election three weeks away, Nagin sided with the residents of Lakewood Estates, a community of spacious homes in the city's Algiers section, and suspended the nearly completed trailer project there and similar projects elsewhere in New Orleans.

The Lakewood Estates trailer park was meant to house 34 single women and their children who were left homeless by Hurricane Katrina, but area residents complained it was too close to their homes. The neighborhood association also sued the Federal Emergency Management Agency seeking a permanent injunction against the project.

[b]FEMA officials said they were surprised by Nagin's decision, especially since he had approved the Algiers trailer site months earlier, FEMA spokesman Darryl Madden told The New York Times. All the necessary building permits had been obtained, Madden said.[/b[


The city may have to reimburse the federal government $1.6 million if FEMA is not allowed to finish building the trailer site, Madden said Tuesday.

Fights over where to put trailers for displaced residents have been a persistent problem. Disputes have erupted over whether trailers should be put on playgrounds, in parks and in historic areas, and Nagin decided that council members would be able to veto trailer locations in their districts. In December, Nagin backed away from a list of proposed sites because of protests.

The mayor said Monday he might use the impasse to push FEMA to abandon its trailer plan in favor of modular housing or investments in existing apartment buildings.

The Lakewood Estates protest Saturday started with a human and vehicular chain to block federal workers. When federal security officials threatened to arrest them, New Orleans police were called in and threatened to arrest the federal workers, residents said.

The trailers are separated from homes only by a low concrete wall, and some trailers are only a few yards from the existing homes.

"You've got a thousand locations that are better," protest leader Edward Markle told the New York Times. "I won't be able to take a bath without them seeing me."


http://tinyurl.com/qbt55


"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno". [ edited by Bear1949 on Apr 5, 2006 10:42 AM ]
 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 5, 2006 08:30:28 AM new
Nagin is an ass kissing, foot in his mouth, politico idiot. I can't think of anyone off hand that has had anything positive to say about him.

The people in the community are just rude. They should negotiate a specific time period in which the trailers with be there which allows for the rebuilding of full time residential structures in the area. Be glad that you did not lose everything, show a little grace and compassion towards those that did while they are trying to recoup. It's not as if the short term (12-18 months) existance of these trailers is going to affect property values. New Orleans is not exactly a hot housing market right now.

As for this guy...
"You've got a thousand locations that are better," protest leader Edward Markle told the New York Times. "I won't be able to take a bath without them seeing me."

I'm sure we can get Oprah or the Extreme Home Makeover team to donate some curtains to this concerned citizen. Idiot!


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 bebeboom
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:20:13 AM new
Listen, I can understand them not wanting a freakin trailer camp next door.. have you heard about the drug dealing, child molesters, low life that find their way to these places. These are people imo that don't want to look for work or a place to live.. like the guy said on an interview yesterday..he's in Houston, and is crying that they don't like N.Orleans people in Houston and are treated badly.. he's in his 30's and then says, when are "THEY" going to put us back in N.O where we came from..What the hell!! 30 years old spent all his life on welfare and in the projects and wants to be put back nice and comfortable like... I say don't build the projects and let them stay in Houston! They sat for 8 months waiting for another hand out in motels or cruise ships, just waiting for "SOMEONE" to fix it for them and put them back on the welfare ticket..

Nagin is for Nagin and nobody else.

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:41:13 AM new
But Maggie dont you know, Nagin OKed the construction of those facilities knowing who would be moving into them regardless of the fact the facility was intended for women & children.




"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:41:37 AM new


New Orleans may have to reimburse the federal government $1.6 million if FEMA is forced to terminate the installation of a group trailer site in Algiers, a spokesman for the Federal Emergency Management Agency said Tuesday.

Tuesday, the New Orleans branch of the NAACP announced its opposition to Nagin's move to suspend the citywide installation of FEMA group trailer sites.

New Orleans NAACP President Danatus King said displaced residents are "receiving mixed signals from our city" that are "causing them to make their permanent residences elsewhere."

King said he can't help but wonder if politics played a part in the decision because it came after complaints from residents who "will most likely vote" in the upcoming mayor's race.

http://www.nola.com/frontpage/t-p/index.ssf?/base/news-5/114421665299410.xml

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:49:12 AM new
Helen, you KNOW the residents of those communities that oppose the construction will be voting against Nagen, anyway.

(Edited to correct spelling of AGAINS(T)/


"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno". [ edited by Bear1949 on Apr 5, 2006 01:51 PM ]
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:54:18 AM new

Of course they will. Where did you get the idea that I support Nagin?

I support the poor people of New Orleans...unlike most people here it appears.



 
 DrArcane
 
posted on April 5, 2006 10:57:22 AM new
Are there any kind of approval polls available for Nagin? I can't imagine ANYONE, rich or poor, voting for him.


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 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:04:36 AM new

How can you expect a politician to support the poor people of New Orleans who have lost their homes and possessions? They would lose the vote of "outstanding" citizens such as bebeboom who want those MF'n welfare users out of their territory.





 
 irked
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:07:42 AM new
My sources in N.O. says Nagin will be re-elected when pigs Fly.

I feel bad for the poor of NO but it keeps getting harder to feel sorry for some that are not willing to at least try and help themselves a little to anything but free aid
**************

Some minds are like concrete,
thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
 
 bebeboom
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:11:15 AM new
Helen, I support helping the poor too, but I get sick to death of seeing generation after generation who feel entitled to being cared for by government hand out. When healthy young men and women don't choose to help themselves and look for work.. that's when I lose my compassion. When my husband who is over 65 years old works a 10 hour day and never missed a step during the hurricane or afterward, is still out there working, it galls me to hear the young people on welfare complaining that the government isn't handing them enough money or lodging...

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:41:46 AM new

Please excuse my obvious revulsion to your stereotypical description of New Orleans poverty...after Katrina. I suppose it reminded me of something composed by linda and I was frankly shocked.




 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:47:16 AM new
maggie you have to overlook helen's remarks, she yells it but sure as hell wouldn't live it.

It is easy for her to decide how others are supposed to live and be supported when I am betting the closest she gets to a welfare person is when she goes downtown and tries not to look one in the face as she is shopping.


Best thing that could of happend to NO was Katrina, it floated the scum out of town and now real citizens can continue to rebuild.




Ron
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:53:03 AM new


Now, in the absence of the regular work force, Mexican and Salvadoran immigrants are camped out in city parks and derelict shopping centers trying to survive on poverty wages while engineering firms such as KBR and the Shaw Group wallow in profits.







 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 11:58:51 AM new

Ron, most people don't need to be on welfare in order to have compassion for those who are living in poverty...especially for those who have lost their homes and can't return.





 
 bebeboom
 
posted on April 5, 2006 12:06:04 PM new
Helen, those who lost their own homes have moved on or are rebuilding.. Those who lived in government ghettos await another ghetto to move into rent free. Those who are healthy and able to work need to get off of the welfare train,those who can't work or are elders should still be helped. I am not heartless, far from it..I gavemy old Taurus to a black man who works as a cook on one of the rigs. It was in perfect running condition and will give him years of use. He needed transportation to get him to and from work.. I help those who help themselves.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 12:26:30 PM new

" it floated the scum out of town "

Ron, that statement tells me more about your bigotry than about the people who were victims of a hurricane.

bebeboom, I don't believe that MOST of those people displaced by Katrina are deadbeats and welfare cheats. Many are victims of the prevailing economy which depended on cheap labor. Of course among every group there are a few who abuse the system but it's wrong to label the entire group with such a broad brush.



 
 bebeboom
 
posted on April 5, 2006 12:34:08 PM new
I apologize if I sounded like an inconsiderate jerk.. I do have a lot of compassion for those who are in less fortunate circumstances.

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 02:05:40 PM new
trying to survive on poverty wages


That I believe to be total BS. hose firms cleaning up NO are hurting for able working people and are paying better than normal wages to entice them into the area.

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Jobs are so plentiful and paying so well that some residents are slowly returning after fleeing from Hurricane Katrina. Many are stymied, though, because there are few places to live and rental rates for undamaged apartments have doubled.

[b]Ship builders, fast-food restaurants and construction companies are desperate to find workers, enticing job seekers with free laundry service and signing bonuses.[/b[

It's like that everywhere along the Gulf Coast.

"People are begging you to come to work," said Charles Dupre of Baton Rouge, a former salesman [b]who said he was willing to make a two-hour commute each way because the wages are so high.[/b[ He spoke with recruiters from a shipbuilding yard and from Home Depot about a sales job.

"I can go blue-collar, or I can go white-collar," he said. "Before Katrina, you couldn't find a job."

Guinchard, whose family is living in a trailer, said she should be able to make $300 a night waiting tables. "People in Alaska thought I would be going to a wasteland."

http://tinyurl.com/e62bb


"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 02:12:38 PM new

New Orleans is lovely....just like Iraq.



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 5, 2006 02:23:31 PM new

This is an interesting report about the economy and political situation in New Orleans today.

Who is Killing New Orleans?




 
 classicrock000
 
posted on April 5, 2006 03:14:33 PM new
Well, way down yonder in New Orleans
In the land of the dreamy scenes
There's a garden of Eden
Ah-you know what I mean

Yeah, Creole babies with flashin' eyes
Softly whisper with tender sighs
And then you stop
Oh won't you give your lady fair
A little smile
And then you stop
You bet your life
You'll linger there
A little while

Yeah, there is heaven right here on earth
With those beautiful queens
Yeah, way down yonder in New Orleans
Whoo

Way down yonder in New Orleans, whoo
In the land of the dreamy scenes
There's a garden of Eden
Well you know what I mean

Well, Creole babies with flashin' eyes
Softly whisper with tender sighs
And then you stop
Oh won't you give your lady fair
A little smile
And then you stop
You bet your life
You'll linger there
A little while

Yeah, there is heaven right here on earth
With those beautiful queens
Well, way down yonder in New Orleans
Yeah
Whoo


Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon-1960





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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on April 5, 2006 04:36:04 PM new
helen you are sadly mistaken if you think I care if someone of your ilk thinks I am a bigot.

You and yours have done nothing but keep those people in poverty. Don't blame those of us who want to see people working.


Ron
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 04:54:57 PM new
In 1814 we took a little trip
Along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans
And we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans

We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

We looked down the river and we seed the British come
And there must have been a hundred of 'em beatin' on the drum
They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring
We stood behind our cotton bales and didn't say a thing

We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Old Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise
If we didn't fire our muskets till we looked 'em in the eyes
We held our fire till we seed their faces well
Then we opened up our squirrel guns and gave 'em..
Well... we...

Fired our guns and the British kept a'comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Yeah they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

We fired our cannon till the barrel melted down
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round
We filled his head with cannonballs 'n' powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind

We fired our guns and the British kept a'comin'
There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago
We fired once more and they began to runnin'
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Yeah they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

Hut, hut, three, four
Sound off, three, four
Hut, hut, three, four
Sound off, three, four
Hut, hut, three, four

Johnny Horton, 1959

"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
 
 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 04:55:41 PM new
[ edited by Bear1949 on Apr 5, 2006 04:57 PM ]
 
 stonecold613
 
posted on April 5, 2006 05:03:19 PM new
It is truely sad what happened in N.O. What is even more sad is what the hurricane exposed. It exposed what the Demomoron policies have done to many areas of our country. They have created a class of people that will not help themselves do anything except commit crimes. It has exposed a class of people that expect free hand outs and will not lift a finger to care for themselves.

Katrina has shown us two very different classes of people. First of course is what we see everyday in N.O. Then there is a very different class of people. The news media seems to have forgotten that Mississppi also got hit very hard by Katrina. And yet, Mississippi is much, much further to being rebuilt. Why? Because they haven't had the class of people that expect free hand outs. In turn this class of people is out repairing their own areas instead of waiting for someone else to do it for them.

Without question, the Demomorons have hurt this area of the United States in more ways than anyone could have imagined.


And Helen,

Pull your head out. Why don't you and cowfarm go to Marine on St. Croix to the mormon coffee shop and........
.
.
.
Many misleading tricks in 2006. The new Demomoron slogan.
 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 5, 2006 06:08:10 PM new
I'm sorry but I'm geting sick and tired of these idiot posts where lazieness, lack of desire, lack of motivation, lack of determination and lack of action on the part of individuals is blamed on a political party. If we want to play that game how do you like this one...

The republican party has turned the the poor of this nation into whining pack of mewling children that don't have to take responsibility for their lazinessand oh poor me attitudes by telling them that it's not their fault that they don't make the effort to do things for themselves... It's democrats fault.

Think that is a #*!@ arguement? Why?

The reality is, it's the individuals responsibility to know the difference between accepting assistance to get their lives on track as opposed to depending on assistance to subsidize their lives, not a political party.

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 Bear1949
 
posted on April 5, 2006 06:22:17 PM new
It's democrats fault.

In fact, that is a true statement. LBJ's "Great Society" program is what created the welfare state once known as New Orleans.

"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 5, 2006 06:47:36 PM new
Bear - abuse created problems such as what became so widespread in New Orleans. Not a political party. I've never seen you as someone that does not believe in assigning and accepting personal responsibility.


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 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on April 5, 2006 07:07:47 PM new
fenix the democratic party created the atmosphere for this to happen, that is a sad fact whether you want to believe that or not.
If you had a choice of sitting at home drawing a check for doing nothing or having to work, what would you do?
Then after a generation of this it is now become the norm instead of the exception. Bear is quite correct this is Johnson's legacy to America.

Yes these individuals should take responsibility for themselves but as long as the democratic party provides them an out they won't.


Ron
 
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