posted on January 21, 2007 07:21:41 PM new
Chavez to U.S.: 'Go to Hell, Gringos!'
Updated 8:46 PM ET January 21, 2007
By CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez told U.S. officials to "Go to hell, gringos!" and called Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice "missy" on his weekly radio and TV show Sunday, lashing out at Washington for what he called unacceptable meddling in Venezuelan affairs.
The tirade came after Washington raised concerns about a measure to grant the fiery leftist leader broad lawmaking powers. The National Assembly, which is controlled by the president's political allies, is expected to give final approval this week to what it calls the "enabling law," which would give Chavez the authority to pass a series of laws by decree during an 18-month period.
On Friday, U.S. State Department deputy spokesman Tom Casey said Chavez's plans under the law "have caused us some concern."
Chavez rejected Casey's statement in his broadcast, saying: "Go to hell, gringos! Go home!"
He also attacked U.S. actions in the Middle East.
"What does the empire want? Condoleezza said it. How are you? You've forgotten me, missy ... Condoleezza said it clearly, it's about creating a new geopolitical" map in the Middle East, Chavez said.
In typical style, Chavez spoke for hours Sunday during his first appearance on the weekly program in five months. He sent his best wishes to the ailing Cuban leader Fidel Castro, his close ally and friend who has been sidelined since intestinal surgery last summer.
Other comments ranged from watching dancing Brazilian girls wearing string bikinis at a recent presidential summit to Washington's alleged role in the hanging of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
"They took out Saddam Hussein and they hung him, for good or worse. It's not up to me to judge any government, but that gentleman was the president of that country."
Holding up a newspaper with a photograph of him gazing at a string bikini-clad Brazilian dancing samba during a summit last week in Rio de Janeiro, Chavez laughed and said: "I didn't know where to look ... It was truly a thing of beauty."
Chavez, who was re-elected by a wide margin last month, has said he will enact sweeping reforms to remake Venezuela into a socialist state. Among his plans are nationalizing the main telecommunications company and the electricity and natural gas sectors.
The president's opponents accuse him of using his political strength to expand his powers.
Relations between Caracas and Washington have been tense since Chavez was briefly ousted in a 2002 coup that he claimed the U.S. played a role in. The Bush administration has repeatedly denied being involved, although it recognized an interim government established by coup leaders.
Since then, Chavez has consistently accused the U.S. of conspiring to oust him and often asserts the CIA is working to destabilize his government. U.S. officials have denied trying to overthrow Chavez, but they have labeled him a threat to democracy.
Criticizing excessive consumption and self-indulgence, Chavez also announced plans in his broadcast to raise domestic gasoline prices and approve a new tax on luxury goods such as private yachts, second homes and extravagant automobiles.
He did not give details on the gas price hike, which he said would not affect bus drivers who provide public transportation, or the luxury tax. He said revenue from the new measures would be put toward government social programs.
Venezuela is one of the world's leading petroleum exporters and gasoline now costs as little as 12 cents a gallon due to government subsidies.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
posted on January 21, 2007 08:41:54 PM new
Mingotree,
We surely need another President that knows something about foreign policy besides threats and bombing. After 9/11 this President had most of the world behind America and of course blew 90% of that good will and help with his policies.
Understand I am not sticking up for Hugo Chavez, but even he has said several times its not the American people that is the problem its the our government's leadership.
Chavez even called BUSHY the Devil in the U.N. Chavez and had several countries applauding his Devil speech. I remember being shocked seeing that many countries agreeing with Chavez calling BUSHY the Devil.
I remember thinking before I saw the Devil Chavez speech that most leaders from other countries would understand that BUSHY is be just a comma in time,a mistake made by the American people, a mistake the American people wouldn't make again.
I thought that once BUSHY was out of power another U.S. President could start repairing the damage to U.S. foreign policy BUSHY did. Now I worry if BUSHY has caused permanent damage to foreign policy. I sure hope not but time will tell.
I can remember several American Presidents that where ever they went people were in the streets cheering for them. With BUSHY and his gang they have to sneak him in and out of anywhere he goes. He doesn't dare being exposed to the public.
I have also noticed the Chinese step right in behind BUSHY's policy failures in oil rich countries and sign these countries up to long term oil deals. That is a real long term problems for the U.S. that can be attributed to BUSHY's failed policies.
posted on January 22, 2007 10:09:21 AM new
Leave it to Blowhard BaBaSheepa, to side with Chavez.
A message to Chavez...tu madre!
"When I talk to liberals, I don't expect them to understand my positions on various issues. I spend most of my time trying to help them understand their own." —Mike Adams
posted on January 22, 2007 10:32:59 AM new
Excuse me, bear, I read Bigpeepa's entire post and didn't see a single word that would imply that he sides with Chavez.
Could you point it out to back up your accusation?
The lies never stop for delusional people like Bear and Liar_k.
I have watched both get caught in lie after lie then both lie several times more trying to lie out of their original lie. And that's a whole lot of lying LOL
Bear and LIAR_K are both a couple sad sacks too delusional and in love with themselves to be taken seriously. I guess its O.K. for the posters here to tee off and GOOF on them they seem to enjoy taking the punishment.
posted on January 22, 2007 02:13:29 PM new
Craw, BaBaSheepa continues with his BushBashing just like Chavez. That is siding with Chavez.
Sheepa, we all KNOW when YOU are lying, not only are your lips moving, but you handle appears on all these postings..
Your only defense to those who oppose your "opinion?" to to label them liars,
"When I talk to liberals, I don't expect them to understand my positions on various issues. I spend most of my time trying to help them understand their own." —Mike Adams
[ edited by Bear1949 on Jan 22, 2007 02:30 PM ]
posted on January 22, 2007 07:35:51 PM new
bear, Chavez is a dangerous idiot and so is Bush. The difference is, Chavez is only just starting his reign, which makes him MORE dangerous, Bush's is all but over. Bashing one does not imply siding with the other.
posted on January 23, 2007 07:11:32 AM new
Hey Bear,
So with you its "either your with us or against us". Fine I will match your ways.
I will always tell people like you I AM AGAINST YOU. I believe new-cons are bad for America.
Face reality Bear. People of your mindset are now the minority with less and less political power everyday and we plan to keep it that way.
We are all around you watching every move you new-cons are making.
Check out how we just killed the new-con lie about Obama from the get go. New-cons are not going to be able to get away with crap like that this time around. We made them out to be what they are LIARS.
You don't need to go to your bunker and pout you can join us for a better America all around.
posted on January 23, 2007 03:32:04 PM new
I agree. Just because we don't agree with MOST all 'waco'peepa's positions/statements...because they're USUALLY WRONG - AND because he's SOOOoooo misinformed....doesn't make anyone a liar.
But he continues to lie about us. So lying doesn't REALLY bother him as much as he claims.
I mean just look at his most recent LIE.....tsk tsk sk..... either he's lying AGAIN or he is crazy enough to believe hillary clinton is a neo-con
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'waco'peepa stated: "Check out how we just killed the new-con lie about Obama from the get go. New-cons are not going to be able to get away with crap like that this time around. We made them out to be what they are LIARS."
When the UPI reports:
Obama school allegations said false
Jan. 23, 2007 at 12:37PM
An investigation into allegations that U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., attended a radical Muslim school in Indonesia has found the claims are false. Insight magazine reported last week on its Web site that researchers connected to U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., had found evidence that Obama, an expected 2008 presidential candidate, attended a radical Muslim school known as a "madrassa" during his childhood, CNN said.
However, a CNN investigation found that the school Obama attended in the country, where he lived from 1967 to 1971, was not a madrassa.
"This is a public school. We don't focus on religion," said Hardi Priyono, deputy headmaster of the Basuki school, where Obama was educated as a child. "In our daily lives, we try to respect religion but we don't give preferential treatment."
"It's not (an) Islamic school. It's general," said Bandug Winadijant, who attended the school with Obama.
"There is a lot of Christians, Buddhists, also Confucian... So that's a mixed school."
"I've been to those madrassas in Pakistan," said CNN correspondent John Vause. "This school is nothing like that."
Insight magazine is owned by News World Communications, which also owns United Press International.
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SO....once again 'waco'peepa DOESN'T have his FACTS straight
posted on January 23, 2007 05:27:29 PM new
BaBaSeepa, the liar....Cant prove any point,
"When I talk to liberals, I don't expect them to understand my positions on various issues. I spend most of my time trying to help them understand their own." —Mike Adams
posted on January 23, 2007 08:36:59 PM new
Point is your right wing smear BULL ROAR about Obama got smashed like a fly see below. Insight Magazine another rag not fit for a hole in an outhouse. This proves like I say we are all around the LIAR new-cons watching every move they make.
Ya get it now LIAR_K and Bear you new-cons can't even get away whit your sh*t SMEAR any longer?
Obama 'Muslim' Charge Found to Be -- Unfounded
By E&P Staff
Published: January 23, 2007 7:50 AM ET
NEW YORK Right-wing freelancer Mark Steyn had repeated an unfounded "smear" -- debunked by CNN on Monday -- in the Chicago Sun-Times, so Lynn Sweet, a columnist there, felt the need to "set the record straight" today.
Barack Obama's week-old presidential campaign has been hit with a smear. Hillary Clinton's White House bid, launched Saturday, has been attacked with an unfounded accusation.
Contrary to what was reported in Insight magazine and then repeated on Fox News and in other news outlets, including a column that ran in the Sun-Times by free-lancer Mark Steyn, Obama was not educated in a radical Islamic school when he was an elementary student in Jakarta.
And there is no evidence whatsoever that Clinton's campaign had anything to do with spreading the damaging rumor that Obama hid a Muslim background.
The source for both slurs started in a report posted on the Web site of Insight, a conservative magazine published by the Washington Times. The article with no named sourcing alleged that researchers connected to Clinton dug up information about Obama as part of a "background check."
Over the past few days the story bounced around the blogosphere and then spilled over to other conservative outlets.....
Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said the episode was not damaging to Obama's campaign but was "a black eye on journalism" because it "shakes people's faith in the truth."
posted on January 24, 2007 01:48:32 AM new
Tell you what, old 'waco'peepa.....I'll believe the UPI over whomever your columnist, Sweet and E&P are. LOL LOL
Looks to me like she's some blogger....with an opinion. lol
Here's her blog site...."Get the SCOOP from Lynn Sweet" LOL LOL LOL
The SCOOP???? From a liberal writer??? LOL
Yep....I'll stick with the UPI. No wonder you didn't provide a link...lol lol lol
PLUS it's going to get VERY NASTY between hillary and obama....not coming from HIS side....but from hers.
She has good reason to start 'rumors' about him, his background, etc....as he's AHEAD of her in the polls.
And I'm SURE she's going to work to change that - knowing her past underhanded actions - she'll stop at nothing.
She's QUITE aware of whom her worst competition is. It's obama. He's getting 'rock star' attention right now. I can see the steam coming out her ears right now.
posted on January 24, 2007 06:27:57 AM new
CNN, isnt that a MAJOR left wing news source that is also a major source of into for muslim terrorists?
"When I talk to liberals, I don't expect them to understand my positions on various issues. I spend most of my time trying to help them understand their own." —Mike Adams
Now since in this one post I again proved Bear to be a flat out LIAR in his words about me.
Plus I was able to show how LIAR_K is upset about the new-cons being caught in the Obama/Clinton smear campaign and tries to spin the truth with false information.
posted on January 24, 2007 07:58:23 AM new
LOL...I'd run too if I were embarrassed like you should be.
CNN and Fox News are having a little pissing contest right now. CNN is upset that Fox News has more viewers than they do.
That's a separate issue altogether. lol
As of last night, Insight is still defending their version of hillary's 'war team' searching out this information on obama.
And on using anonymous sources...that the left is whining about so loudly....lol...lol...well the NEW YORK TIMES does it all the time...even though they've been called on the carpet about doing so...over and over again. And even though the NYT has promised to do it much less than they have. LOL [That was a joke - they're STILL using them all the time]
And them doing just what Insight has done....is just another one of the lefts 'double standards'.
This is only the beginning of the MUDfest that's going to come down as these candidates start back stabbing each other in the back to narrow the dem field down.
The '08 season has started early. One only has to remember back to '04 and how the dem contenders tore each other apart. Well...it appears to be happening again.
Lastly obama is going to face much worse than this. He DOES carry a muslim name, given him from his muslim father. AND in his two books he has admitted to being sent to a muslim grade school....as he was to a Catholic one.
Those are FACTS...straight from the 'horses mouth' as they say.
And while CNN sent a reporter to that muslim school...and they're trying to downplay/make it appear someone lied... saying that it's now a mixed religion school. lol Well...problem is obama attended it close to 40 years ago. Things change. People KNOW things change in 40 years. lol
People are going to want to know his background before they even THINK about making him our next President.
He's going to have MUCH more to contend with before all this is over...I have NO DOUBT. Up to this point he hasn't been put 'through the process/the wringer', the nasty part of the political process where the other side looks for every bit of dirt they can find against their opposition...and USES it.
hillary most certainly isn't above doing JUST that.
Here's the original article that mentioned obama and hillary's involvement.
posted on January 24, 2007 08:26:20 AM newNow since in this one post I again proved Bear to be a flat out LIAR in his words about me.
You havent proved anything but the fact that you cant back up your lies.
"When I talk to liberals, I don't expect them to understand my positions on various issues. I spend most of my time trying to help them understand their own." —Mike Adams
posted on January 24, 2007 08:58:01 AM new
"""People are going to want to know his background before they even THINK about making him our next President. """
WHO are these people YOU ARE SPEAKING FOR, linduh ??????
So sorry to disappoint you linduh, but there seems to be LOTS of people who want to see Obama as president no matter what his middle name is
THAT's how YOU judge a presidential candidate ...by his name?
Hahaha there's those straws you're grasping at !!!!
Wanna go back to what the reps did to John McCain ????????
posted on January 24, 2007 09:04:06 AM new
We're NOT discussing what the reps did or didn't do to McCain.
We're NOW talking about hillary digging up the 'dirt' on obama.
And yes, I DO believe since obama had a muslim father...carries a muslim name...that WILL mean something to many Americans.
They'll want to learn more about that issue. Could very well become a problem for him.
As do all the issues brought up about ANY politician, especially running for the WH.
I'm sure most are aware of the muslim law regarding changing from the muslim religion TO another one. His life could even be in danger from some nutcase, radical, terrorist, muslim who isn't pleased obama decided to go to the Catholic religion.
posted on January 24, 2007 09:25:55 AM new
from this mornings Assoc. Press
Obama: Name Not an Advantage in Campaign
Jan 24 7:40 AM US/Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. Barack Obama doesn't think name recognition is necessarily a plus as he seeks the Democratic Party presidential nomination in 2008.
"When your name is Barack Obama, you're always an underdog in political races. That's how it was when I ran for the United States Senate," Obama said Wednesday.
"That's how it will be this time," he said on ABC's "Good Morning America."
But Obama, who has formed a presidential exploratory committee, also said he believes "I've got something unique to offer."
Appearing on CNN, Obama, D-Ill., said that when he was running for the Senate, "there was an image of me superimposed over a picture of (al- Qaida terrorist leader Osama) bin Laden. I think people like to play with my name."
On CBS's "The Early Show," Obama said he wouldn't be surprised if he is the victim of "scurrilous attacks."
But he also said he believes "people are smarter than that. They're going to judge you on what is your vision for the country. If I do that in a presidential race, then I'm sure I'll do fine."
"Should I decide to go forward with this presidential race," he told CNN, "we will get put through the paces ... and then the American people are going to make a good judgment about it. I'm pretty confident that they'll have a discerning eye."
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So....it appears at least obama's being realistic about his name issue....even though YOU can't be, mingo.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on January 24, 2007 09:33:54 AM new
Obama had better be squeaky clean. The Clinton machine's dirty tricks division make the CIA look like a church choir.
posted on January 24, 2007 10:35:18 AM new
linduh, you're bossy neocon woman side is showing...also your DOUBLE standards, trying to tell everyone what we're discussing !!!
I WILL discuss anything I care tobecause I'm an independent LIBERAL woman
McCain is an issue if you want to talk about people in the same party slinging dirt in their own direction.
Then linduh pulls this out of her butt, ""So....it appears at least obama's being realistic about his name issue....even though YOU can't be, mingo."""
I WAS being realistic about his name but you can't read very well. I also agree with HIM when he says, (from YOUR post),
""But he also said he believes "people are smarter than that. They're going to judge you on what is your vision for the country. If I do that in a presidential race, then I'm sure I'll do fine." """
posted on January 24, 2007 10:44:19 AM new
LOL....that's because the hillary 'war team' has only JUST begun. You haven't seen NOTHING yet.
And I never said you couldn't discuss whatever you wish to. I mentioned that because you always tend to go off on so many different paths as you mumble.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on January 24, 2007 11:12:31 AM new
LIAR_K,
said "LOL...I'd run too if I were embarrassed like you should be."
Since you posted your words above I will reword one last time why I am leaving this post. If I proved you and Bear wrong a 1,000 times you would lie about it 1,001 times. You and Bear have no shame.
posted on January 24, 2007 11:25:16 AM new
'waco'peepa......you haven't proven EITHER bear or I have lied.
THAT is the problem...you can't PROVE we've lied.
You've just got this little phrase in your head and you continue singing it over and over.
Not reality based...not true.
We understand....you see things that don't exsist. That's been noted by others also....on other boards. They LAUGH at your stupity.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
, but there seems to be LOTS of people who want to see Obama as president no matter what his middle name is 