posted on February 13, 2007 12:14:22 PM new
Yep....more voters who THOUGHT the dem party would STOP THE WAR....WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS.....are STILL disappointed about the INACTION of THEIR Congress - both the HOUSE and the SENATE.
First the senate....now the house.
Just like I've stated over and over.....the NO GUTS dem party isn't giving them what they WANT.
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House initiates anti-war motion
By Charles Hurt and S.A. Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
February 13, 2007
House Democrats introduced a war resolution yesterday condemning President Bush's plan to send reinforcement troops to Iraq, but their anti-war supporters say it misses the point because it doesn't simply cut funding for the war.
"Congress disapproves of the decision" to send 21,500 more troops to the Middle East, states the resolution. It says Congress will "continue to support and protect" U.S. armed forces but doesn't address cutting war funds -- the only tool Congress has for ending the war.
The nonbinding statement of disapproval was drafted by two senior Democrats, Reps. Ike Skelton of Missouri and Tom Lantos of California, and a Republican, Rep. Walter B. Jones of North Carolina, who voted for the war in 2002 but have since turned against it.
House debate on it will begin today.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, said yesterday that at the end of the week, "we will vote on a straightforward position: Do you support the president's plan or oppose it?"
She said the vote "will herald whether the House understands the message the American people are sending about the policies used to implement this war."
But peace activists who voted overwhelmingly for Democratic candidates in the November elections say Mrs. Pelosi and Democrats in Congress have gotten the message all wrong.
"Congress is not listening to the voice of the people," said Gael Murphy, co-founder of the anti-war group Code Pink: Women for Peace.
"We are disappointed that Congress is not moving forward expeditiously and we are being distracted by this nonbinding resolution that holds no one accountable," she said. "From what we can tell, nobody is interested in debating a real exit strategy."
Ms. Murphy, who is leading daily protests at congressional hearings and a lobbying offensive on members' offices, said her group will keep pressing Democrats to stop the war.
"No one is putting pressure on Bush to come up with an exit strategy, which is what the people want," she said. "All we are talking about is an escalation of the war."
Kevin Martin, executive director of Peace Action, the country's largest anti-war group with about 100,000 members, said Democrats are failing to seize the "mandate for peace" from the election.
"The interests of the peace movement are not the same as that of the Democratic Party," he said. "I'm more concerned with ending the war than with re-election in '08. I don't think I can say that for some of the Democrats."
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
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posted on February 13, 2007 12:22:31 PM new
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Mr. Martin, who blames both parties for supporting the war in the first place, said, "Congress needs to use the power of the purse to cut off funding for the war." Of the nonbinding resolutions opposing reinforcements, he said they're "a worthless waste of time. Why bother?"
It's a narrow point on which Rep. John Carter, Texas Republican, agrees with the peace activists.
"These meaningless nonbinding resolutions are a distraction," he said. "This is just a political stunt by the Democrats that will not bring us any closer to ending the war. It only serves to weaken the morale of our fighting men and women and allows our enemy to claim victory."
House Minority Leader John A. Boehner, Ohio Republican, predicted that the resolution is "the first step in the Democrats' plan to cut off funding for American troops who are in harm's way." He also criticized Democratic leaders for denying Republicans the opportunity to amend the resolution.
"If Democrats are serious about supporting our troops, they will allow Republicans to offer a substantive alternative that binds the Congress to an unwavering and unambiguous commitment to fund the American men and women who wear our uniform," Mr. Boehner said.
Stacey Farnen Bernards, spokeswoman for House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer, Maryland Democrat, said Republicans "are trying to muddy the waters and avoid the question that is on the floor this week to support or oppose the president's escalation of the war in Iraq."
Whatever message Democrats hope to send Mr. Bush, he doesn't plan to get it. ROFLMHO
In an interview with C-SPAN yesterday, he said he probably won't watch the debate this week, saying he has a full schedule and already knows "what the debate is."
White House spokesman Tony Snow said Congress can "do whatever it thinks it needs to do in terms of resolutions," but he said Mr. Bush is proceeding anyway.
Asked if the resolution was harmful to the troops, Mr. Snow didn't answer directly, instead saying "the way you support the troops is help them complete their mission successfully."
Yesterday afternoon, Sen. John W. Warner, Virginia Republican, tried reviving his resolution condemning the troop increase by offering it to the major funding bill on the floor. Mr. Warner joined other Republicans last week in blocking a vote on his own measure because Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, would not permit certain other Republican proposals to be considered.
Sen. Susan Collins, Maine Republican and a co-author of that bill, said yesterday that "sending our troops to Baghdad would be a colossal error."
Reid spokesman Jim Manley said Mr. Warner's latest effort will not succeed since Mr. Reid has stopped allowing new amendments to the high-priority funding bill.
"Senator Reid offered Senator Warner and others a vote on their own proposal last week, but they decided to stop the Senate from debating their own resolution," Mr. Manley said.
• Stephen Dinan contributed to this report.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on February 20, 2007 07:32:21 PM new
quatermass, at the risk of proving myself wrong, have you ever noticed how nobody responds to your vile, hate filled spew? Your venomous posts are so insipidly mean spirited that even those here who agree with you in principle won't speak to support you. Your juvenile name calling would never have gotten past your own back yard before the invention of the internets. Aren't you happy somebody provided you with a forum for your childish nonsense?
posted on February 20, 2007 07:57:58 PM new
And somehow the profe sees 'waco'peepa's posts....and sybil's posts in a different manner?????
ROFLMHO.....you're bias is GLOWING profe. tsk tsk tsk
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on February 20, 2007 08:25:29 PM new
Linda, No one (dem or repub) on this board posts the vile, unproductive, stupid crap that quatermass does. He is like a little kid trying to shock the grownups. I have yet to read any post of his/hers that has anything useful or even entertaining. What a waste of oxygen.
posted on February 21, 2007 04:48:31 AM new
LIAR_K,
Your defense of a fool like quatermass makes you look like a jerk. Even I didn't think you would stoop this low.
"baby raping bastards" from quatermass is just low life stuff. You really don't need to defend those words unless you agree we are "BABY RAPING BASTARDS".
posted on February 21, 2007 06:46:43 AM new
Sorry, I don't see it as a double standard. Of the posters you mention, all post opinions, information, C & P's. They have valid points, whether you agree with them or not. There are posters who agree with your thinking who can be a little nasty too, but still post valid, informative or entertaining subjects. Quatermass is totally different--in a category by himself. He posts crap for the sake of posting crap. He comes in, drops his bombs, and leaves snickering. No other poster that I know, no matter what side they are on, does that. Even if he were liberal-minded, I would say the same thing. Sure wouldn't support his juvenile, troll-like posts.
posted on February 21, 2007 09:07:06 AM new
coincoach - Well we've found another area where we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Because although YOU and the profe see his posts in the same manner I see those whom I have mentioned...and while you overlook the vile posts of others....I see it as you not agreeing with what quartermass' message is also. Because you appear to be to be excusing their posted vulgarities while announcing that they bother you when they come from someone you don't agree with.
Take for example....what quartermass said:
"The Dem party is a gutless bunch of baby raping bastards who have never done anything in thier pathetic lives but take from productive people while they sit on their fat asses and watch tv."
I agree with the message, although it's not my style to present it in that manner.
The dem party supports the murder of babies....and wants no restrictions on abortion.
The dem party DOES believe, very strongly, in income redistribution.
And the dem party supports all sorts of 'ENTITLEMENT' programs for those who don't want to do for themselves.
So...in that way, I agree with quartermass' opinion....I just wouldn't have put it in the same manner he/she did.
Doesn't mean he/she's not entitled to share his/her opinion....as do all the vulgar posters on the left.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on February 21, 2007 09:32:39 AM new
linduh drools, """The Dem party is a gutless bunch of baby raping bastards who have never done anything in thier pathetic lives but take from productive people while they sit on their fat asses and watch tv."
I agree with the message, although it's not my style to present it in that manner."""
OH YES IT IS!
YOU have been just as vulgar in the past. AND YOU support posts like quartermess all the time.
Trying to seperate yourself from them while agreeing with them is not possible.
BTW, stupid, he said "baby raping" NOT baby murdering.
And I have noted that YOU think baby raping is just fine and dandy so why use it to slam Democrats?
posted on February 21, 2007 10:06:40 AM new
Linda, This is a typical Quatermass post: "The Dem party is a gutless bunch of baby raping bastards who have never done anything in thier pathetic lives but take from productive people while they sit on their fat asses and watch tv." Hyperbole at its finest. How does this post help or inform anyone---or even get his message out.
You will notice in my posts that I mention that no one else on EITHER side, dem or repub. posts like this. There have been Libs who say nasty things (including me from time to time ) There have been repubs who say nasty things. Even Stone, who can be quite vulgar and has said a few nasty things about me, can post informative or entertaining posts. I usually don't agree with him either, and he has a very abrasive style, but I would not criticize him the way I am Quatermass. Quatermass is a low-life who is trolling for a reaction. I certainly would not embrace someone who posts like he does, just because he happens to agree with me. As I said before, he is a total waste of oxygen.
posted on February 21, 2007 10:06:55 AM new
The one supporting quatermass is the same one that howled the loudest when the vile posting crowd from here went to Otwa and got booted for posting some of the same vulgar filth there, sometimes returning with different IDs to repeat it.
Remember this may be common, everyday, acceptable and enjoyable talk for her and she doesn't understand that for others in society it's not.
posted on February 21, 2007 10:07:17 AM new
coincoach,
Never will you get LIAR_K to admit a mistake. That is one reason I call her LIAR_K she is a very sick old woman.
posted on February 21, 2007 10:10:32 AM new
coincoach - You are free to hold your own opinion and to state it here.
I'm just saying that IMO I see those on the left ONLY bringing the matter up WHEN it's posted by someone they don't agree with.
And I also am saying those liberals/dems I have mentioned have done the SAME THING. But I still maintain the left has a double standard when it comes to pointing it out when it's from a 'rightie' or someone they don't agree with...but it's never mentioned when one of their own does the same thing.
posted on February 21, 2007 10:18:43 AM new
Oh I bet you want top get back to the topic
"""linduh drools, """The Dem party is a gutless bunch of baby raping bastards who have never done anything in thier pathetic lives but take from productive people while they sit on their fat asses and watch tv."
I agree with the message, although it's not my style to present it in that manner."""
OH YES IT IS!
YOU have been just as vulgar in the past. AND YOU support posts like quartermess all the time.
Trying to seperate yourself from them while agreeing with them is not possible.
BTW, stupid, he said "baby raping" NOT baby murdering.
And I have noted that YOU think baby raping is just fine and dandy so why use it to slam Democrats?"""
Ok, linduh , here's your chance....how would YOU say "baby raping" ?
Notice, murder and rape are TWO DIFFERENT things , linDUH.
posted on February 21, 2007 02:02:04 PM new Of the posters you mention, all post opinions, information, C & P's. They have valid points, whether you agree with them or not.
Coin,
Nothing is further from the truth. They rarely have valid points, and yet they spew crap all over these boards.
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"Unfortunately there are levels of Stupid that just can't be cured!!" The current Demomoron motto.
posted on February 21, 2007 02:30:35 PM new
murder and rape is all same in a twisted mind.
Just like her saying the Dems in Congress are cowards because they won't get tough on troop withdrawal.
Then 6 days later calls Hillary a (*itch) when Hillary starts to offer up a tough troop withdrawal plan. Your all watching the work of a twisted new-con mind. If it wasn't so important to get American troops out of BUSHY's failure called Iraq her words would be funny.
This WACKO old woman is so easy to expose these days its pathetic.
posted on February 21, 2007 04:40:25 PM new
I am glad the president really sticks up for the injured troops
It is now just more than 72 hours since a Washington Post expose' appeared both on NBC and online revealing horrific conditions at the out-patient facilities of Walter Reed Army Medical Center, where soldiers horrifically wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan are treated.
In that time, Democratic Senators Barbara Mikulski and Patty Murray have called for a Pentagon investigation, which is forthcoming, and Democratic Senators Claire McCaskill and Barrock Obama have written legislation to fix the problems, and stream-line the paperwork for wounded vets.
Missing in action in our fourth story tonight... the party that claims to support the troops.
Where is the president?
Responding today, White House press secretary Tony Snow.
"The president is somebody, again, whose passion for these forces should never, ever be a topic of doubt...when he looks these people in the eye there is a commitment, a strong, profound emotional commitment to the people who serve this country."
So, passion...and strong, profound, emotional commitment.
But is he as outraged as most Americans are? Is he outraged enough to say or do something? Anything?
No presidential order to make sure troops wounded in his war do not spend one more night in substandard facilities, with sub-standard care and substandard assistance.
In fact, although Mr. Snow implied the president knew about this problem prior to the Post report and, of course, he might have found out about it on any of his well-publicized trips to Walter Reed Hospital... the White House added a tiny footnote today to the transcript of the media briefing, saying,
"The president first learned of the troubling allegations regarding Walter Reed from the stories this weekend in the Washington Post."
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on February 21, 2007 04:43:43 PM new
Posted: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:01 PM by Countdown
It is hard to imagine what kind of American might have reason to want war... until you hear the kind of numbers Congress heard this week.
In tonight's fourth story, the government's top three auditors told Congress that a review of just $57 billion of the contracts in Iraq turned up more than 10-billion in overcharges or unaccounted spending.
That's one mysterious... or stolen dollar... for every six spent.
And who knows how that ratio will change when the remaining $300 billion in Iraq spending is audited.
Where is all this money going, that could be funding proper armor and supplies for our troops?
One company accounted for more of that $10.27 billion of it, than any other...
Halliburton, whose C-E-O David Lesar, took home more than $12 million in 2005, according to Forbes.
Lesar, of course, got where he is thanks to Halliburton's previous chief,
Vice President Dick Cheney, perhaps the single greatest proponent of the Iraq war.
Democrats are not only holding hearings to expose the problem;
Yesterday, they introduced legislation not only to stiffen penalties for war profiteers, but also to make more contracts competitive, and require actual qualifications for some of the contracting-oversight jobs now held by Republican political appointees.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on February 21, 2007 06:03:38 PM new
posted on February 21, 2007 12:52:21 PM edit
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"""Ok, linduh , here's your chance....how would YOU say "baby raping" ?
Notice, murder and rape are TWO DIFFERENT things , linDUH.""""
Haha! Whatsa matter linduh, can't find the dictionary ?
posted on February 21, 2007 06:08:29 PM new
It appears NO liberal or dem has the ability to answer simple questions.....they much prefer all the GRANDSTANDING that will accomplish NOTHING. tsk tsk tsk
Any liberal or dem here want to explain why your party ISN'T presenting a bill to be voted upon to STOP the war funding?
I believe most of you are aware that all this grandstanding the liberals have been doing will accomplish absolutely NOTHING.
The only way the liberals can stop this war is IF their party stops funding the war.
Why don't you think they have the backbone/courage of their convictions to do so?
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
) There have been repubs who say nasty things. Even Stone, who can be quite vulgar and has said a few nasty things about me, can post informative or entertaining posts. I usually don't agree with him either, and he has a very abrasive style, but I would not criticize him the way I am Quatermass. Quatermass is a low-life who is trolling for a reaction. I certainly would not embrace someone who posts like he does, just because he happens to agree with me. As I said before, he is a total waste of oxygen. 
Are YOU a Bunghole?