posted on April 26, 2007 08:54:01 PM new
Riverbend and her family have decided to join other refugees leaving Iraq. She hadn't written in a couple of months but updated her blog today with the news. Here is part of it.
... I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can mend...
Thursday, April 26, 2007
I remember Baghdad before the war- one could live anywhere. We didn't know what our neighbors were- we didn't care. No one asked about religion or sect. No one bothered with what was considered a trivial topic: are you Sunni or Shia? You only asked something like that if you were uncouth and backward. Our lives revolve around it now. Our existence depends on hiding it or highlighting it- depending on the group of masked men who stop you or raid your home in the middle of the night.
On a personal note, we've finally decided to leave. I guess I've known we would be leaving for a while now. We discussed it as a family dozens of times. At first, someone would suggest it tentatively because, it was just a preposterous idea- leaving ones home and extended family- leaving ones country- and to what? To where?
Since last summer, we had been discussing it more and more. It was only a matter of time before what began as a suggestion- a last case scenario- soon took on solidity and developed into a plan. For the last couple of months, it has only been a matter of logistics. Plane or car? Jordan or Syria? Will we all leave together as a family? Or will it be only my brother and I at first?
After Jordan or Syria- where then? Obviously, either of those countries is going to be a transit to something else. They are both overflowing with Iraqi refugees, and every single Iraqi living in either country is complaining of the fact that work is difficult to come by, and getting a residency is even more difficult. There is also the little problem of being turned back at the border. Thousands of Iraqis aren't being let into Syria or Jordan- and there are no definite criteria for entry, the decision is based on the whim of the border patrol guard checking your passport.
An airplane isn't necessarily safer, as the trip to Baghdad International Airport is in itself risky and travelers are just as likely to be refused permission to enter the country (Syria and Jordan) if they arrive by airplane. And if you're wondering why Syria or Jordan, because they are the only two countries that will let Iraqis in without a visa. Following up visa issues with the few functioning embassies or consulates in Baghdad is next to impossible.
So we've been busy. Busy trying to decide what part of our lives to leave behind. Which memories are dispensable? We, like many Iraqis, are not the classic refugees- the ones with only the clothes on their backs and no choice. We are choosing to leave because the other option is simply a continuation of what has been one long nightmare- stay and wait and try to survive.
On the one hand, I know that leaving the country and starting a new life somewhere else- as yet unknown- is such a huge thing that it should dwarf every trivial concern. The funny thing is that it’s the trivial that seems to occupy our lives. We discuss whether to take photo albums or leave them behind. Can I bring along a stuffed animal I've had since the age of four? Is there room for E.'s guitar? What clothes do we take? Summer clothes? The winter clothes too? What about my books? What about the CDs, the baby pictures?
The problem is that we don't even know if we'll ever see this stuff again. We don't know if whatever we leave, including the house, will be available when and if we come back. There are moments when the injustice of having to leave your country, simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have to leave our home and what remains of family and friends… And to what?
It's difficult to decide which is more frightening- car bombs and militias, or having to leave everything you know and love, to some unspecified place for a future where nothing is certain.
posted on April 26, 2007 09:16:29 PM new
One persons experience.....there are 25 MILLION in Iraq. Many who left have been returning.
And why isn't her family willing to FIGHT for their 'freedom' rather than run away????
I think that's a fair question. Was her BROTHER fighting for liberty and freedom for all of Iraq? Or was he hiding out, waiting for the American soldiers to protect him and their family????
It's not America soldiers that are using the car bombs....killing the innocent Iraqi's.
It's those our soldiers and our country are eliminating.
GO US TROOPS.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 26, 2007 09:41:42 PM new
I've followed her writings for a few years and can't imagine being brave enough to live what she has been through or to witness the destruction around her or to see family or friends die because of the thoughtless actions of a few leaders in another country.
No one should judge her decision and I can only wish her and her family safety and hope she finds some peace in the future.
Today I was reading Spiegel International about the Iraqi refugees that have moved to Sweden and how they now want other countries to share the burden of taking so many in.
'Anything Is Better than Baghdad'
Many of the thousands of Iraqis fleeing their homeland want to go to Europe, and Stockholm is their port of entry. Now Sweden wants other European countries to share the burden. EU ministers are meeting this week to discuss how to cope with increasing numbers of Iraqi refugees.
According to estimates by the office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), about two million Iraqis have left their country since the war started in 2003, most going to neighboring Syria (1.2 million) and Jordan (750,000). Some return as soon conditions improve in their village or city.
At the same time, the flow of refugees to Europe is increasing. About 80,000 Iraqis already live in Sweden, where the government and municipalities provide generous financial support for language courses, job training, apartments and welfare benefits. Life is so good in Sweden that families are encouraging their relatives and friends to follow their example and move there.
posted on April 26, 2007 09:49:04 PM new
ALL Americans have EVERY right to question this very biased blogger.
AS I asked....why aren't HER family members willing to fight for their own freedom?
Why are the cowardly and running away...rather than fighting the terrorists?
Her extended family COULD be chosing to join the Iraq police force....join their Army.....use their guns to actually DO something to fight FOR THEMSELVES.
No, they're like you kiara....too chicken to fight for their own lives....well being. They'd rather RUN away.
None of those leaving Iraq have courage NOR the backbone to fight .....they'd rather run and hide....whine and complain...than actually do anything.
They and others like them are WHY more American soldiers are being killed fighting for THEIR liberty.
When they are too cowardly to do so themselves.
Maybe canada can take in those cowards. Make room for them in your country, kiara. You know, actually DO something instead of bashing a Nation that is fighting the terrorists they are RUNNING FROM.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 26, 2007 09:55:17 PM new
kiara writes, " ... to see family or friends die because of the thoughtless actions of a few leaders in another country."
I'm slightly confused. Who are those leaders? What country?
posted on April 26, 2007 10:05:31 PM new
Kozersky, it is my opinion that the war is due to the thoughtless actions of the Bush administration which caused this woman and her family the misery that they now experience.
I would never judge the decision of any family that is caught in the midst of war and I would never call them cowards.
posted on April 26, 2007 10:10:33 PM new
See....she too refuses to read the statements of the dem party in why this action needed to be taken....and read their support of this President TAKING action.
Nope...kiara joins the group of liberals, pacifists who NEVER can deal with the TRUTH....nor the reality of ANY situation.
They prefer living in total DENIAL.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 26, 2007 10:28:09 PM newNo, they're like you kiara....too chicken to fight for their own lives....well being. They'd rather RUN away.
Like me? And you have some documentation or knowledge to show where I didn't fight for my own life but chose to run away, Linda_K? Where? When? And how does it relate to this topic?
posted on April 26, 2007 11:43:31 PM new
Thank you for that OP Kiara! It's hard for us to imagine what those people face and go through every day. Death and uncertainty are an everyday occurence for them.
"" Busy trying to decide what part of our lives to leave behind. Which memories are dispensable? We, like many Iraqis, are not the classic refugees- the ones with only the clothes on their backs and no choice. We are choosing to leave because the other option is simply a continuation of what has been one long nightmare- stay and wait and try to survive.
On the one hand, I know that leaving the country and starting a new life somewhere else- as yet unknown- is such a huge thing that it should dwarf every trivial concern. The funny thing is that it’s the trivial that seems to occupy our lives. We discuss whether to take photo albums or leave them behind. Can I bring along a stuffed animal I've had since the age of four? Is there room for E.'s guitar? What clothes do we take? Summer clothes? The winter clothes too? What about my books? What about the CDs, the baby pictures?
The problem is that we don't even know if we'll ever see this stuff again. We don't know if whatever we leave, including the house, will be available when and if we come back. There are moments when the injustice of having to leave your country, simply because an imbecile got it into his head to invade it, is overwhelming. It is unfair that in order to survive and live normally, we have to leave our home and what remains of family and friends… And to what?"""
Such a sad commentary on what their lives have become. What brave, courageous people!
Aren't we lucky that we don't have to go through that ...yet. And how easily some judge these people...some who have never had to face any hardship having the nerve to criticise the decisions of people in unimaginable circumstances.
posted on April 27, 2007 08:55:04 AM newWas her BROTHER fighting for liberty and freedom for all of Iraq? Or was he hiding out, waiting for the American soldiers to protect him and their family????
So Linda is admitting that some Iraqis are not standing up and defending their country, but rather waiting for the Americans to BRING FREEDOM TO THEIR COUNTRY.
How long should this countinue Linda? It is has already been a year since the National Assembly in Iraq was established. It has been two years since US troops started training Iraqi soldiers.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on April 27, 2007 04:07:56 PM new
While linduh ponders why our troops should help these people she so obviously dislikes ...here's a response to her bone-headed ""Many who left have been returning.""
Iraq: Neighbors Stem Flow of Iraqis Fleeing War
US and UK Bear Special Duty to Aid Refugees
(Geneva, April 17, 2007) – Iraq’s neighbors are closing off escape routes to Iraqi asylum seekers, just as the international community has begun to respond to the 2 million refugees from the war, Human Rights Watch said in a briefing paper released today.
The Conference shouldn’t only focus on assisting Iraqis who’ve managed to escape, but should seek to uphold the right to flee to safety of those still trying to get out of Iraq.
Bill Frelick, refugee policy director at Human Rights Watch.
As high-level officials, including ministerial-level representatives for Iraq and all countries in the region, meet in Geneva on April 17, 2007 for a conference to coordinate the international response to Iraqi refugees and internally displaced people, Iraq’s neighbors are refusing entry, imposing onerous new passport and visa requirements, and building barriers to keep refugees out. In cases, they are also expelling Iraqis back to Iraq, Human Rights Watch said.
“The Conference shouldn’t only focus on assisting Iraqis who’ve managed to escape, but should seek to uphold the right to flee to safety of those still trying to get out of Iraq,” said Bill Frelick, refugee policy director at Human Rights Watch and author of the paper, "From a Flood to a Trickle: Neighboring States Stop Iraqis Fleeing War and Persecution."
The briefing paper focuses on new restrictive measures taken by Jordan and Egypt to prevent more refugees from coming. Syria, which is hosting about 1 million Iraqis, denied visas to Human Rights Watch researchers seeking to document their situation. Saudi Arabia is building a US$7 billion high-tech barrier on its border with Iraq to keep Iraqis out, while Kuwait is categorically rejecting Iraqi asylum seekers.
“Jordan and Egypt have pretty much closed their doors to Iraqi refugees, while Syria is shutting out Palestinians trying to flee Iraq,” said Frelick. “The Geneva conference needs to tackle the denial of asylum to Iraqis, not just apportion aid to those who are already out or still displaced inside.”
Jordan has all but stopped the entry of Iraqi nationals at its border crossing with Iraq and is turning away many, if not most, of the Iraqis attempting to arrive by plane. Since November 2006 refugees and other travelers have reported that Jordan was turning away at the border single Iraqi men and boys between the ages of 17 and 35. Recent accounts, however, indicate that Jordan is now applying bars to entry much more widely. Most disturbingly, border guards are asking Iraqis about their religious identity and rejecting those who are or appear to be Shi`a. But they are also rejecting many Sunnis and Christians, including women and children, according to accounts of separated family members.
Cases detailed in the Human Rights Watch report include the following:
A Christian man from Baghdad fled to Jordan with his wife and four children in June 2006 after his son was injured by a car bomb and he received a death threat. Recently, his wife and youngest son returned to Baghdad because the wife’s father had just had a heart attack. They subsequently tried to return to Jordan via the overland route on March 27, 2007 but Jordanian guards turned them away at the border despite their having valid travel documents.
“My wife told the border guards that she has three small children in Amman, but they told her ‘You might be a refugee,’ and turned her away,” the man told Human Rights Watch. After being rejected at the border and making her way back to Baghdad, his wife tried to fly to Jordan with her son, but when she arrived at the airport in Amman, immigration officials refused her entry.
“That an official would deny entry to a woman and child because he thought they were refugees is a perversion of the right to seek asylum,” Frelick said. “It’s scandalous that countries are refusing entry to people who are desperately trying to escape from high levels of generalized violence and persecution.”
A Sunni refugee now in Egypt told Human Rights Watch about harsh treatment at the border crossing from Iraq to Jordan, saying he was only admitted because he had a sick daughter. “It wasn’t easy to get into Jordan. We had troubles at the border ... They don’t let in Shi`a ... They ask what religion you are. If you say you are a Sunni, it is okay. If you say you are a Shi`a, you are not admitted.”
A 40-year-old Sunni woman whose husband was murdered and dismembered in front of her before she was brutalized and gang-raped by eight men, arrived from Baghdad by plane in July 2006. """"
(linDUH, do you really believe THAT WOMAN should've stayed and fought ...REALLY?????
You ARE AN IDIOT!)
She said that the Jordanians allowed only two Iraqis from the plane to enter and returned all the others to Iraq. The widow and rape victim said that the only reason they allowed her to enter was because she had a visa for Morocco in her passport and told the Jordanian immigration authorities that she was on her way there.
In addition to rejections at the border crossing and the airport, Iraqi refugees in Jordan report that police and immigration authorities are conducting many more sweeps than in the past, arresting people in parks, work places, and neighborhoods where Iraqis are concentrated. Arrests appear to be taking place in larger numbers, and expulsions back to Iraq are increasingly swift.
Egypt, now host to as many as 150,000 Iraqis, has also taken steps to stem the arrival of more Iraqi refugees. As in Jordan, this is causing separation of families, deepening the anxiety of refugees already in Egypt, and heightening the desperation of those still in Iraq trying to find a way out.
In early January 2007, the Egyptian authorities began imposing highly restrictive new procedures for Iraqis seeking entry. There is no Egyptian diplomatic mission in Baghdad, and the Egyptian authorities require face-to-face interviews by at least one family member at consulates in Damascus or Amman. The numbers of applicants are dropping because the Iraqis cannot get to Syria or Jordan.
Human Rights Watch notes that, notwithstanding their current policies to refuse Iraqis entry, the countries bearing the brunt of this refugee crisis are not responsible for creating it. The responsibility to provide and maintain asylum for Iraqi refugees cannot be allowed to rest on countries that border Iraq. The United States and the United Kingdom have a humanitarian responsibility both to refugees living in the region and to those still seeking refuge.
“The United States and the UK bear a particular responsibility to help people displaced in and out of Iraq,” said Frelick. “They undertook a war that has directly caused thousands of deaths, widespread fear and suffering, and forced displacement. This precipitated a sectarian conflict that has caused additional violence, persecution, and displacement on a massive scale.”
While Washington’s belated willingness this year to provide refuge to up to 7,000 Iraqi refugees is a welcome beginning (though only 3,500 are projected to arrive), it is not adequate burden sharing and does little to address the broader problem, Human Rights Watch said. The United Kingdom has not even committed to admit Iraqis for helping British forces in Iraq.
The wider international community has a collective responsibility to share the burden, which should not fall simply on countries that happen to be located at the receiving end of a mass refugee exodus. On the occasion of the International Conference on Addressing the Humanitarian Needs of Refugees and Internally Displaced Persons inside Iraq and in Neighboring Countries, Human Rights Watch calls on all governments not only to address the humanitarian needs of Iraqi refugees and internally displaced persons, but their protection needs as well.
Human Rights Watch calls on the governments of all countries bordering Iraq to:
Observe the principle of nonrefoulement – the duty not to return refugees to persecution or serious harm – including non-rejection at borders;
Admit at least temporarily all Iraqi asylum seekers, Palestinian refugees, and Iranian Kurdish refugees residing in Iraq;
Cooperate with the UN High Commissioner for Refugees in the registration of Iraqi asylum seekers and refugees; and,
Ensure compliance with the principle of family unity by facilitating the reunion of family members from Iraq.
Human Rights Watch calls on all other governments to:
Contribute bilaterally and through UNHCR to meet the humanitarian and protection needs of Iraqi and Palestinian refugees;
Provide both temporary and permanent asylum, as appropriate, to Iraqi and Palestinian refugees fleeing war and persecution;
Provide third-country resettlement possibilities for Iraqi refugees, Iranian Kurdish refugees, and Palestinian refugees from Iraq; and,
Urge the governments of neighboring states not to deport Iraqi asylum seekers and refugees and Palestinian refugees from Iraq, and to treat them in accordance with international standards.
posted on April 27, 2007 06:36:49 PM new
All kidding and politics aside when I read LIAR_K's first response to Kiara post. My first reaction was what a COLD HEARTED WOMAN.
LIAR_K's depth of hate is beyond my understanding.
Thanks Kiara for your post that exposes LIAR_K's bottomless hate.
posted on April 27, 2007 06:50:12 PM new
Of course no 'I support our troop' liberal here would EVER believe what Gen. Petraes stated...about returning Iraqi's.
No...they don't believe a word he says. But that shouldn't come as ANY surprise to anyone since their own LEADERS won't attend Gen Petraes progress meetings.
But oh yea, we're to believe they support our troops. right....sure....and I have a bridge to sell you too.
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And here we have the SURRENDER to our enemies crowd....calling me names.
What a joke.
There is NOTHING wrong with expecting Iraqi's to stand along side our soldiers....be willing to put THEIR lives on the the line as our soldiers are doing......because THEY want their freedom and liberty.
Yea, real heartless to expect them to do anything except sit in a room somewhere...with electricity and whine and moan about what's going on around them....but don't lift a FINGER to do anything themselves.
Get a clue. That may be the liberal way of doing things....so used to everything being done FOR them...given to THEM...rather than doing it themselves. Let the gov. do it. WHY? Because that's the way their minds work.
GIVE ME GIVE ME...DO FOR ME DO FOR ME...and don't expect me to do a thing to help myself.
posted on April 27, 2007 07:02:31 PM new
LIAR_K said these heartless words about the Iraqi Family kiara posted about.
"One persons experience.....there are 25 MILLION in Iraq. Many who left have been returning."
"And why isn't her family willing to FIGHT for their 'freedom' rather than run away????"
"I think that's a fair question. Was her BROTHER fighting for liberty and freedom for all of Iraq? Or was he hiding out, waiting for the American soldiers to protect him and their family????"
Those words come from a HATE filled TWISTED woman.
I am out of here, right now I can't stand to be around that woman's hate and poison
posted on April 27, 2007 07:09:04 PM new
""""A 40-year-old Sunni woman whose husband was murdered and dismembered in front of her before she was brutalized and gang-raped by eight men, arrived from Baghdad by plane in July 2006. """"
(linDUH, do you really believe THAT WOMAN should've stayed and fought ...REALLY?????
You ARE AN IDIOT!)""""
I guess linDUH agrees with my assesment of her...linDUH's so cowardly she thinks of every excuse under the sun to NOT answer questions but expect OTHERS to be brave under unbelievable circumstances.
posted on April 27, 2007 07:44:30 PM new
One only has to look at the reviews of Riverbend's books on Amazon to know the effect that her writing has on others. Her first-hand reports of life in Iraq are of interest to many readers who follow her words instead of listening to the clowns who distort the facts and claim to know more than the Iraqis who are actually living in the midst of the war. Riverbend was a computer programmer who lost her job when her country was invaded and destroyed.
Linda_K has shown her ignorance of the equality of women in America, she has shown her ignorance of them joining the military and going to Iraq and Afghanistan and actually dying there, she has shown her ignorance several times of how women in Iraq lived before the invasion compared to their lives now.
Under Saddam the constitution made them equal to men, they could vote, drive, work outside the house and hold jobs that men had traditionally held. They were the most educated and professional of all women in the Arab world. Now they are raped and burned and murdered - honor killings are on the increase and they have lost all their freedoms.
Riverbend once made a suggestion for a reality show - "Take 15 Bush supporters and throw them in a house in Fallujah"
posted on April 27, 2007 08:51:52 PM new
Oh where or where did I put my violin????
I must play some sad music for all the bleeding heart liberals who would NEVER think life under saddams rule was anything but wonderful.
Yep...saddam was great...fair...and did everything he could for his people.
According to the nutcases who actually believe that garbage.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 27, 2007 09:39:14 PM new
No one here has ever stated that life was wonderful under Saddam. You just make those things up because you are afraid to face the truth about the rights women did have under Saddam compared to the way they are now treated, Linda_K.
You most likely don't believe Riverbend's writings because you are in denial that women in Iraq could be better educated than you are and with a deeper knowledge of world affairs than you will ever have.
What is even sillier is that you think you know more about what is happening in Iraq and what is best for them than they do.
You have shown time and again that you believe women are lesser beings so probably think they deserve this kind of punishment and are responsible for the circumstances they are now in.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:04:07 PM new
You're DELUSIONAL kiara. FULL TIME delusional.
I don't CARE what ONE WOMAN says about Iraq on her blog.
There are 25 MILLION other Iraqi's who WANT freedom and liberty....and they're out on the streets actually DOING something to get it.
While this one woman sits at her computer bitching about how bad the American's are making her pampered life. TOO BAD.
Let HER family and all the other Iraqi's that are leaving Iraq....fight for their freedom too.
Otherwise they are selfish, and only care about their OWN well being. NOT the future of their country....not anything else expect their own comfort.
And from what I've read...Iraqi women have had their heads hung on polls outside their family homes. They've been RAPED and then murdered because THEY were blamed for their rapes. They've been beaten for no reasons at all.
saddams son's had rape rooms where they enjoyed any women they wanted.
So....maybe your riverbend was a saddam supporter and received special treatment other Iraqi women NEVER received.
But to listen for YEARS to your posts of her whining about big bad America.....proves to me she and others like her want US to earn their freedom and liberty for them.
They don't want to be bothered to do it for themselves.
So defend her actions....make all the FALSE accusations about me you need to.
There's no excuse to sit on a computer and whine....go DO something.
More to syria...any where you feel they'll take care of your every need ...you won't have to do a thing, riverbend....except whine every day.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 27, 2007 10:15:44 PM new
How on earth do you have the audacity to criticize this woman who LIVES in Iraq, suffers in Iraq, has seen horrendous things in Iraq? Have you ever been to Iraq? How could you even begin to know what it is like to live there? You do not care what happens to the people of Iraq as you profess. All you are concerned with is DEFEATING THE ENEMY. You should be ashamed of yourself. I'm outta here.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:27:38 PM new
It's not news that linduh is a walking piece of garbage. She whines and whines about big issues like double standards and getting kicked off a chat room and then calls these people who have REAL problems cowards.
She'd be wetting her pants while she ran like a jackrabbit after five minutes in Iraq. She's yellow through and through just like that CIC she keeps slobbering over.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:28:01 PM new
I'll tell you CC what gives me the 'right'.
It's our American soldiers who have been and continue to put THEIR lives on the line each and everyday to fight the terrorists who are murdering Iraqi's just like riverbend.
When I read this women's biggest problem is to decide which CD's to take in her move - what books she should pack - and I'm SURE she'll be bring her computer....and all the while I KNOW what our military soldiers are going though to bring peace and stability to her country.....
....it sickens me.
kiara and other anti-war liberals USE people like riverbend to point out how BAD America is for believing the 25 million people have a RIGHT to live freely.
She loves pointing out by using our soldiers deaths.....just like 'waco' does...for their own anti- war agenda.
So just as they do 'their thing' - as an American I can also do mine.
Iraqi's like riverbend are COWARDS. Pretty much like our new liberal SURRENDER liberals are.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 27, 2007 10:32:00 PM new
Something else for the WHITE FLAG WAVING liberals here to ponder.
Maybe riverbend and her family and other cowards like them are MOVING....leaving Iraq because they see the political future with the new dems in control.
They could be saying to themselves that IF the SURRENDER liberals do stop our troops from completing their mission there.....then they KNOW there will be nothing but SLAUGHTER and death for those who remain by the AQ and their supporters who HAVE been trying to cause a civil war in Iraq.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:39:08 PM new
ponder this oh yellow bellied slithering rotten souled coward...just because YOU can't comprehend what IRAQIs have to say about their condition and country doesn't mean you can ASSume you know what they really mean.
You're so stupid you don't know that they live with daily slaughter NOW!!!! NOW!! Stupid!
No Democrat or liberal has waved a white flag or said we should surrender so your lies are falling on deaf ears,...you AS USUAL can't prove your twisted posts.
You are as yellow as bush who couldn't fight but could only drink and snort coke.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:41:17 PM newWhile this one woman sits at her computer bitching about how bad the American's are making her pampered life. TOO BAD.
There's no excuse to sit on a computer and whine....go DO something.
Obviously you have never followed anything she's written, Linda_K so you have no idea what she does each day or the sights she's witnessed.
And you are a great one to talk when you sit at your computer daily bitching and constantly whining about how bad the rest of America and the world is because they haven't fallen in line and do not worship your leader Bush as much as you do and they don't wish to wage war on every other country worldwide that you hate and fear because of ignorance.
I understand that you are furious because this female in Iraq has free speech and it affects your propaganda. She has a huge following and other voices are being heard from Iraq now too, posting videos on youtube and telling the world about the true conditions within their country. Real life experiences from real people with real feelings about their country.
posted on April 27, 2007 10:50:14 PM new
sybil....take a CHILL pill...you're TOTALLY out of control AGAIN.
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kiara you haven't a clue as to how much of her blog I've read. QUIT talking like you do know. You fool no one.
This country wouldn't have broken free from England had most people here at that time acted in the same pampered manner your riverbend does.
Had they all be the same....unwilling to fight for the freedom and liberty we wouldn't be talking on this venue.
Same thing with the civil war ....had there been that many COWARDS who were unwilling to fight....God on knows where we'd be now.
her situation is no different. We have freed them from saddams power. Many are working VERY, very hard to establish a new form of gov. in Iraq.
Then we have those like your riverbend....who would rather run away than contribute anything to the survival of decent Iraqi's living in peace.
Not at all what JFK said:
Ask not what your country can do FOR YOU....but what you can do for your country.
riverbend and ilk need to hear those words and quite whining while our brave soldiers are dying for HER freedom and HER liberty.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on April 27, 2007 10:57:08 PM new
Don't tell me what to do you cowardly turd.
You just hate the truth so much that you're babbling.
YOU haven't the teeny tiny bit of courage it takes to answer a question in a chat room!!!!
Like:
""A 40-year-old Sunni woman whose husband was murdered and dismembered in front of her before she was brutalized and gang-raped by eight men, arrived from Baghdad by plane in July 2006. """"
(linDUH, do you really believe THAT WOMAN should've stayed and fought ...REALLY?????
FULL TIME delusional.