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 mingotree
 
posted on May 8, 2007 08:06:35 AM new
Then WHY ARE THEY HERE!?????????



6 Charged With Plot to Attack N.J. Base
MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) - Six nationals of the former Yugoslavia were arrested early Tuesday on charges they plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," federal authorities said.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 8, 2007 08:34:25 AM new
See....MORE proof that this administration HAS been arresting the terrorists within our own Nation.


GREAT JOB!!! Six more to add to the GROWING list we've STOPPED BEFORE they could carry out their intended SICK goals.

And the liberals want to PRETEND there is no reason for ANY admin. to be allowed to do ALL that is necessary to catch these murdering BASTARDS.

They're just soooo worried about the terrorists 'rights'.

Better start worrying about them being MORE successful than they have been so far.




"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 8, 2007 08:41:33 AM new
Question # 7,989 that linduh can't answer


If we're fighting them there why are they here?

 
 coincoach
 
posted on May 8, 2007 08:44:26 AM new
The FBI did a great job in capturing these creeps. But they are supposed to stay in Iraq as long as we are there. Haven't you said if we pull out of Iraq, they will follow us here? Guess these guys haven't heard about that.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:33:52 AM new
dbl post
[ edited by Linda_K on May 8, 2007 09:37 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:36:10 AM new
Oh brother...you two ARE just so mis-informed.


NO, no statement was EVER made that there weren't terrorists already here in the US


We're been aware AND arresting suspected terrorists in our own Nation for YEARS now...where you two been?



"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:37:06 AM new

From a report by Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank
Research fellows at the Center on Law and Security at the NYU School of Law. Bergen is also a senior fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C.

The Iraq war is being called a flame that has helped ignite global jihad.

Why? The Iraq war has allowed Al Qaeda, which was on the rocks in 2002, to reinvent itself as the standard-bearer of a worldwide jihad. Not only has this brought more recruits to Sunni terrorist groups, but the conduct of these groups in Iraq has energized militants elsewhere. This has particularly been the case in the Arab world, whose countries excluding Iraq have seen 783% more fatalities from jihadist terrorism since the U.S. invasion.

Europe also has seen a newscale of attacks. Eliza Manningham-Buller, the head ofBritain's domestic intelligence services, spelled it out: "In Iraq, attacks are regularly videoed and the footage is downloaded onto the Internet [and] chillingly we see the results here."

Finally, our study shows that the Iraq war has coincided with terrorists employing deadlier techniques. Excluding Iraq and Afghanistan, we see a 150% increase globally in the rate of suicide attacks by jihadist groups since the war began. And recent arrests in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and France suggest that the war is leading to "blowback," as seasoned Iraq veterans migrate back home and plot new terrorist attacks.

Yes, few American civilians have been killed since the U.S. invasion of Iraq. But it is naive to believe that this will continue to be the case. The evidence shows the war has damaged America's global efforts to defeat Al Qaeda.




 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:41:20 AM new
Another 'SURRENDER NOW' liberal steps in.

Defeatists all. tsk tsk

Thank heaven the liberals wereN'T in office when 9-11 struck or we'd still be TALKING about what to do.

Oh no...wait....the liberals and the dems ALL voted to go to war in BOTH Nations.

Guess they didn't understand how their votes would supposedly 'increase' terrorism either.

No double standards there....nope.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on May 8, 2007 09:43 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:49:25 AM new
Linda_K
posted on May 8, 2007 09:36:10 AM new
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Oh brother...you two ARE just so mis-informed.


NO, no statement was EVER made that there weren't terrorists already here in the US


We're been aware AND arresting suspected terrorists in our own Nation for YEARS now...where you two been?""""




Yes, linDUH, I am quite aware they are and have been here. It's you dopey righties who keep chanting the idiotic "If we don't fight them there , we'll have to fight them here"


That implies that Y O U didn't know they were already here!



Now, please do as I say...keep avoiding answering the question....

If we're fighting them there WHY are they here?





 
 coincoach
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:49:52 AM new
We've shown you 2 separate reliable sources (and I'm sure there are many more) that say the Iraq war has made terrorism worse, but you chose to ignore that and continue posting about liberals and surrender and defeat. You are so hung up on not "losing" (whatever that means) that you do not even consider the loss of life.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:51:49 AM new
6 Arrested in Alleged Fort Dix Murder Plot


Tuesday, May 08, 2007

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MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. — 

Claiming they were ready to die in the name of Allah, six Islamic militants from Yugoslavia and the Middle East plotted to attack the Fort Dix Army base and "kill as many soldiers as possible," authorities said Tuesday.


The suspects, who also spoke of attacking U.S. warships that might dock in Philadelphia, were arrested Monday night, and were to appear before a federal judge Tuesday afternoon.


"This was a serious plot put together by people who were intent on harming Americans," U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie said.

"We're very gratified federal law enforcement was able to catch these people before they acted and took innocent life."


One suspect reportedly spoke of using rocket-propelled grenades to kill at least 100 soldiers at a time, according to court documents.


"If you want to do anything here, there is Fort Dix and I don't want to exaggerate, and I assure you that you can hit an American base very easily," suspect Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer said in a conversation last August that was secretly recorded by a government informant, according to the criminal complaint against him.


"It doesn't matter to me whether I get locked up, arrested or get taken away," a suspect identified as Serdar Tatar said in a conversation recorded by the same informant. "Or I die, it doesn't matter. I'm doing it in the name of Allah."



Still another suspect, Eljvir Duka, was recorded by a second informant as saying, "In the end, when it comes to defending your religion, when someone is trying attacks your religion, your way of life, then you go jihad."
White House spokesman Tony Snow said Tuesday there is "no direct evidence" that the men have ties to international terrorism.


"They are not charged with being members of an international terrorism organization," Snow said. "At least at this point, there is no evidence that they received direction from international terror organizations."


Asked if those arrested had any links to al-Qaida, Snow referred questions to the FBI and the U.S. attorney, but said those officials "seem to indicate that there is no direct evidence of a foreign terrorist tie."


In court documents, prosecutors said the suspects came to the attention of authorities in January 2006 when a shopkeeper alerted the FBI about a "disturbing" video he had been asked to copy onto a DVD.


The video showed 10 young men in their early 20s "shooting assault weapons at a firing range ... while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic 'Allah Akbar' (God is great)," the complaint said.


Six of the 10 were identified as those arrested in the plot.


Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said the men viewed Islamic training and weapons videos on the Internet.


"What concerns us is, obviously, they began conducting surveillance and weapons training in the woods and were discussing killing large numbers of soldiers," Boyd said.
The six were scheduled to appear in U.S. District Court in Camden later Tuesday to face charges of conspiracy to kill U.S. servicemen, said Michael Drewniak, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey. An afternoon news conference was also scheduled with federal authorities.


Officials said four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one in Jordan and one in Turkey. All had lived in the United States for years. Three were in the United States illegally; two had green cards allowing them to stay in this country permanently, and the sixth is a U.S. citizen.


Besides Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, Serdar Tatar and Eljvir Duka, the other three men were identified in court papers as Dritan Duka, Shain Duka, and Agron Abdullahu. Checks with Immigration and Customs Enforcement show that Dritan Duka, Eljvir Duka and Shain Duka are illegally living in the United States, according to FBI complaints unsealed with their arrests.


Five of the men lived in Cherry Hill, a Philadelphia suburb located about 20 miles from Fort Dix.

"They were planning an attack on Fort Dix in which they would kill as many soldiers as possible," Drewniak said.


The men also allegedly conducted surveillance at other area military institutions, including Fort Monmouth, a U.S. Army installation, Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, and a Philadelphia Coast Guard station.



Christie said one of the suspects worked at Super Mario's Pizza in nearby Cookstown and delivered pizzas to the base, using that opportunity to scout out the possible attack.
"Clearly, one of the guys had an intimate knowledge of the base from having been there delivering pizzas," Christie said.
He declined further comment until the 2:30 p.m. news conference.


By March 2006, the group had been infiltrated by an informant who developed a relationship with Shnewer, according to court documents. The informant secretly recorded meetings in August 2006 in which Shnewer said that he and the other suspects were part of a group planning to attack a U.S. military base, the complaints said.
Shnewer named Fort Dix, and a nearby Navy base, explaining that "they could utilize six or seven jihadists to attack and kill at least one hundred soldiers by using rocket-propelled grenades" or other weapons, the complaint said. The Navy base was not named in the complaint.


The men were arrested Monday trying to buy automatic weapons from an FBI informant.


Fort Dix is used to train soldiers, particularly reservists. It also housed refugees from Kosovo in 1999.


At the main gate of the sprawling Army base, military police officers ordered reporters to leave the area immediately.


Meanwhile, the description of the suspects as "Islamic militants" caused renewed worry among New Jersey's Muslim community. Hundreds of Muslim men from New Jersey were rounded up and detained by authorities in the months following the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, but none were connected to that plot.


"If these people did something, then they deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law," said Sohail Mohammed, a lawyer who represented scores of detainees after the 2001 attacks. "But when the government says 'Islamic militants,' it sends a message to the public that Islam and militancy are synonymous.
"Don't equate actions with religion," he said.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 8, 2007 09:53:34 AM new
Now, please do as I say...keep avoiding answering the question....

If we're fighting them there WHY are they here?




I'm so glad you did what I told you

 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on May 8, 2007 12:31:26 PM new
Question # 7,989 that linduh can't answer

mingopig, Linda did answer your question. You just choose to ignore it, like the rest of the demomorons.


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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?


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Take the bunghole quiz here.
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 mingotree
 
posted on May 8, 2007 06:14:48 PM new
Gee linduh ya finally did what someone else told ya to do....although I was looking forward to what weasely excuse you were going to come up with this time...you are very creative....



What NO neoconrepug can answer:



If we're fighting them there WHY are they here?

LOLOLOL!!!!

:

 
 logansdad
 
posted on May 10, 2007 08:13:09 AM new
See....MORE proof that this administration HAS been arresting the terrorists within our own Nation.



White House spokesman Tony Snow said Tuesday there is "no direct evidence" that the men have ties to international terrorism.


"They are not charged with being members of an international terrorism organization," Snow said. "At least at this point, there is no evidence that they received direction from international terror organizations."


Asked if those arrested had any links to al-Qaida, Snow referred questions to the FBI and the U.S. attorney, but said those officials "seem to indicate that there is no direct evidence of a foreign terrorist tie."




Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 10, 2007 04:01:38 PM new
LOL ld

Stay in your little cave and PRETEND they don't have the same religious beliefs that the AQ and other radical muslims share.

Pretend that they aren't/weren't motivated by the AQ mind think.

Just stay in your little pretend world and IGNORE their OWN statements about why they were planning on doing what they were plotting.

It's the LIBERAL way - DENIAL of the truth. lol lol lol

You and your ilk.....aka the clinton admin. didn't act against this same mind-set/religious madness....and then came 9-11.

Wake up time.


"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 10, 2007 06:09:58 PM new
linduh, you just stay in your little pretend world and pretend that "fighting them there means not fighting them here" ....one of the most stupid talking points the repugs invented!!!
[ edited by mingotree on May 10, 2007 11:35 PM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 11, 2007 12:37:43 PM new
OOOOPS! They sneaked out of Iraq even though ""we're fighting them there"" !!!

Germans monitor possible U.S. base threat
EUCOM plans security exercises day after U.S. embassy warning

By Matt Millham, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Sunday, April 22, 2007



German authorities have been closely watching persons they believe might be planning attacks on U.S. bases in Germany, according to a U.S. official.

Last month a message was circulated among some departments in the U.S. military that the German Bundeskriminalamt, or BKA, was monitoring a group of people who are believed to be planning the attacks, the official said.

Stars and Stripes learned of the message, which contains more specific details, about three weeks ago, but agreed not to release the information for fear its disclosure could compromise the German investigation. The message, known as a Be On the Lookout — or BOLO — was not publicly released or disseminated throughout the ranks.

A BKA spokeswoman reached Saturday in Wiesbaden couldn’t comment on or confirm any pending investigation.

The U.S. Embassy in Germany posted a message on its Web site Friday that Americans in Germany face an increased threat of terrorism and warned them to be on the lookout and bolster their own security. The warning did not appear on embassy sites in other European countries.



 
 
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