posted on May 12, 2007 07:33:26 AM new
Bill requires hiring 'gays,' cross-dressers
'Perceived sexual orientation or gender identity' protected
Posted: May 12, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Following on the heels of an 'anti-discrimination' plan Christians insist would virtually outlaw their religious beliefs comes another proposal – introduced by openly homosexual U.S. Rep. Barney Frank – that requires businesses to give special privileges to "gay" and "transgendered" individuals.
Shari Rendall, director of legislation and public policy for Concerned Women for America, the nation's largest women's public policy group, said H.R. 2015, the "Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2007," would be a disaster.
"This bill would unfairly extend special privileges based upon an individual's changeable sexual behaviors, rather than focusing on immutable, non-behavior characteristics such as skin color or gender. Its passage would both overtly discriminate against and muzzle people of faith. Former Secretary of State Collin Powell put it well when he said, 'Skin color is a benign, non-behavioral characteristic. Sexual orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid argument,'" Rendall said.
The proposal, from U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., follows H.R. 1592, the House-approved plan that would add sexual orientation and gender identity to a list of valid arguments for allegations of a "hate crime" and allow the federal government to intervene when those occur, or even in order to "prevent" one.
The White House has issued a statement saying the proposal is "unnecessary and constitutionally questionable" and the president's advisers would recommend a veto if it advances to his desk.
The new bill's goals are within the same agenda, critics say.
"According to proponents, this bill merely seeks to insulate people who choose to engage in homosexual behaviors ("sexual orientation" or who suffer from gender confusion ("gender identity" against employment discrimination," said the CWFA station. "But regrettably this legislation would effectively codify and encourage the very thing it purports to prevent – workplace discrimination."
It would apply to any business with 15 or more employees and would declare "it shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer … to fail or refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to the compensation, terms, conditions, or privileges of employment of the individual, because of such individual's actual or perceived sexual orientation or gender identity."
"This bill would force Christian, Jewish or Muslim business owners to hire people who openly choose to engage in homosexual or cross-dressing behaviors despite a sincerely held religious belief that those behaviors are dangerous, sinful and not in keeping with basic morality," added Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues for CWFA.
"ENDA would essentially force employers to check their First Amendment protected rights to freedom of religion, speech and association at the workplace door. It's absurd! For instance, female employees would have to endure both systematic sexual harassment and a hostile work environment by being forced to share bathroom facilities with male employees who get their jollies from wearing a dress, high heels and lipstick," Barber said.
"Over the years, the homosexual lobby has done a masterful job of co-opting the language of the genuine civil rights movement in their push for special rights. This bill represents the goose that laid the golden egg for homosexual activist attorneys," he said.
Peter LaBarbera, of Americans for Truth, also suggested voters contact Congress and urge members to reject ENDA "and the insanity of forcing businesses across the nation to accommodate and subsidize gender confusion in the name of 'civil rights.'
"Several giant corporations have already settled on pro-'transgender' bathroom and dress policies – probably the same companies who would subject their employees to biased, pro-homosexual 'diversity' lectures – but can you imagine inflicting these 'transgender' regulations on small and mid-level companies through federal law via ENDA?" LaBarbera asked.
"What female employee wants to share the company restroom with a big-boned man claiming to be 'transitioning' to 'womanhood?' Will companies have to build 'transgender male' and 'transgender female' restrooms?"
He said there are some unsatisfactory exemptions for religious-oriented employers, but secular companies whose owners choose to run their operations on biblical guidelines would have no option.
The law would require companies to allow workers to use the restroom of the sex they "present."
"What about the privacy rights of [a transgender's] female co-workers? Don't they have the right not to feel personally invaded as they go to the restroom at their job?" he asked.
"Of course, the larger goal here – shared by the 'gay' and 'transgender' lobbies – is to change your mind and heart regarding gender-confused conduct. The law is merely a tool in their never-ending quest to overturn America's Judeo-Christian norms regarding family, sex and marriage," he said.
Former White House insider Chuck Colson, in his Breakpoint commentary, called the earlier plan, H.R. 1592, a "Thought Crimes" plan.
"It's called the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act. But this bill is not about hate. It's not even about crime. It's about outlawing peaceful speech – speech that asserts that homosexual behavior is morally wrong," he said.
"Some say we need this law to prevent attacks on homosexuals. But we already have laws against assaults on people and property," Colson said. "Moreover, according to the FBI, crimes against homosexuals in the United States have dropped dramatically in recent years. In 2005, out of 863,000 cases of aggravated assault, just 177 cases were crimes of bias against homosexuals…"
He noted, as WND earlier reported, in other locations, such as England, Sweden, Canada, and even Philadelphia, where similar laws have been approved, the "Thought Police" already have prosecuted Christians.
One Philadelphia woman, Arlene Elshinnawy, 75, and grandmother of three, was holding a sign: "Truth is hate to those who hate the truth," before she was hauled off by police officers, according to reports.
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posted on May 12, 2007 07:14:41 PM new
Yep......outlawing free speech.
That's the liberal way.
When they don't like what people feel/think and say....they'll pass another law that takes away MORE of our constitutional rights.
Then they'll pretend they support our constitutional and it's OTHERS who are going against it.
It's a sad, sad state of affairs.....and it's getting worse all the time.
Remove anything 'faith related' and promoting more and more anti bazaar behaviors - has only taken us further down the social decay path.
Yep...working to limit speech and limiting THOUGHTS.....it's the liberal way.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 13, 2007 05:30:55 AM new
Another good laugh from the scared little neocons!
"What about the privacy rights of [a transgender's] female co-workers? Don't they have the right not to feel personally invaded as they go to the restroom at their job?" he asked.""
It's the "Bathroom Scare Tactic" right out of the 50's and 60's !!!
There were idiots who said the Equal Rights Act for women would mean SAME SEX restrooms!!!
Did it happen?
""This bill would force Christian, Jewish or Muslim business owners to hire people who openly choose to engage in homosexual or cross-dressing behaviors despite a sincerely held religious belief that those behaviors are dangerous, sinful and not in keeping with basic morality," added Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues for CWFA.""
Obviously hiring pedophiles is not considered dangerous, sinful, and IS IN keeping with THEIR basic morality.
posted on May 14, 2007 09:27:53 AM new
My favorite term of this article is, "special privileges". I read the entire article and still don't see one example of a special privilege this law would allow.
Linduh says, as does the article that this is a "free speech" issue. Still don't see where that is true either. Nowhere in the article does it say people, business owners, etc would lose their right to free speech. None of the Civil Rights Act squelched free speech. People say whatever they want all the time. Imus did, and he still can... just not under the CBS and MSNBC airwaves. You can still think being gay is wrong, you can still think being transgendered is wrong, etc. You can say it out loud if you want. Just because you have the freedom to express yourself doesn't mean that your own life won't be affected when doing so.
"The law is merely a tool in their never-ending quest to overturn America's Judeo-Christian norms regarding family, sex and marriage,' he said."
Hmmm. That is funny too. I don't see where gay/transgendered rights overturn Judeo-Christian norms whatsoever. If you want to live under those norms, then live under those norms. Nobody says you can't be a christian, jew, muslim, etc. You live to your own calling... and so do others.
Just curious, but when did judging others behaviors and taking responsibility for others behaviors become judeo-christian norms to begin with? If you want to live your life as you see morally fit and it doesn't harm others, then so be it.
I am a very moral individual, yet am agnostic. I don't need a religion book to tell me how to live my life. I don't see where someone else who is gay and/or transgendered has affected my life, or anyone elses around me. I don't understand their lifestyle, I don't understand same gendered attraction to each other... but I really don't care what others do because it doesn't affect me. I could care less that someone I work with is gay, transgendered, etc. Get over it already. It isn't your life. Live yours and let them live theirs. You're not going to be judged by your god on what others have done. We wouldn't need laws like this if people just accepted others as they are... unfortunately that isn't the case.
Again, as I have many time before... Religion is the disease of humans. It breeds intolerance, hatred, and judgement. It is the root of most wars in the world, and has led to more bloodshed than anything else.
posted on May 14, 2007 12:01:05 PM new
introduced by openly homosexual U.S. Rep. Barney Frank – that requires businesses to give special privileges to "gay" and "transgendered" individuals.
I have said it many times. The gays aren't looking for equal rights. They are looking for special rights. This bill needs to be squashed like a bug.
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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?
posted on May 14, 2007 09:59:18 PM new
I agree, Stonecold. That's all this is about - SPECIAL rights for these weirdos.
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They want hate-speech laws so people can't freely voice their own opinions about their behaviors/lifestyles.
They now want to FORCE others who don't accept the weird lifestyles to do so. Say with hiring practices.
The liberals that support this don't CARE if religious people don't WANT to hire these people. They're going to FORCE them and everyone else to do so, whether they want to or not.
This violates the rights of all the other Americans who don't approve of nor see this lifestyle as acceptable. Don't want their children to be FORCED to believe this is NORMAL...when they don't believe it is.
They don't want to be limited BY these stupid laws to not freely say what they want to say about it.
This limits free speech for others...to appease a very small group of people who until most recent times have been rejected by most in our society.
Now they're trying to pass all these laws so American's can't disagree with their behavior nor REJECT their lifestyles or who don't want to hire them to say work in a religious book store.
The liberals don't care about anyone except themselves....and their parties special interest grousp....their financial supporters. And they'll sell out everyone else's rights to give to these groups.
tsk tsk tsk
WE, in America, should remain FREE to decide who we want to hire....what we want to say in public and in their churches about things they find IMMORAL.
But...the liberal left is working hard to change that so we'll be more like communists nations where people can't FREELY speak out about what they oppose or can't avoid hiring people that would run buyers off should they be FORCED to hire them.
Let the time come when something the progressives don't want discussed...THEN they'll not be so thrilled or so complaisant about the rights of others being trampled upon. THEN it will matter to them.
Imo, people like rusty are selfish and since they SAY these things don't affect them, their lifestyle...then it shouldn't bother anyone else.
Surprise, surprise, it DOES. And those others don't want their liberty denied by socialist progressives who make laws to silence those who oppose.
And meanwhile these same people support limiting the religious rights, constitutional rights, of others all the time....when THAT doesn't affect them either. They just don't support it/like it/approve of it...so that makes it SOoooo different. NOT.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on May 14, 2007 10:05 PM ]
posted on May 16, 2007 04:24:05 PM new
"Imo, people like rusty are selfish and since they SAY these things don't affect them, their lifestyle...then it shouldn't bother anyone else. Surprise, surprise, it DOES. And those others don't want their liberty denied by socialist progressives who make laws to silence those who oppose. "
Hmmm. How does it affect you??? I thought you were all about "sticks and stone" and other BS like that LinduH?? Really... how does someone's lifestyle affect you? The problem with the neocons like yourself, is that you want to put your head in the dirt instead of accepting people for who they are. You're always here blathering about people taking responsibility... well why the hell can't parents take responsibility and explain to their children that some people choose to live differently. You don't have to live their life, just let them live and accept equality for everyone.
Every single one of you neocons here have preached about "special rights"... yet not one single one of you were able to answer how these people would receive "special rights" outside of what they should be entitled to. If you truly want this country to be free and equal, then quit resisting exactly that.
posted on May 16, 2007 04:44:56 PM new
The biggest problem with your argument, rusty is that they are passing LAWS that force us to accept/hire/and not be allowed to speak our mind.
That's HOW it affects OUR lives.
It removes OUR rights of free speech. It removes OUR right to hire or NOT HIRE whomever we want to.
It violates OUR rights while appeasing a tiny, tiny minority who want society to accept them and their lifestyles. We don't HAVE to. We're FREE to believe what WE want to...not what some liberal tries to FORCE upon us.
They are ALREADY free to live their lifestyles....that's not what these laws are about. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing this nonsense put into LAW.
They would go about their business....and we would go about ours. That's NOT what they're allowing to happen.
The fact YOU can't see that...is no surprise. You and your ilk, imo, are the reason for most of the social DECLINE we've seen in American in the past 40 years. You have this 'anything goes' attitude.
posted on May 16, 2007 05:01:47 PM newThe biggest problem with your argument, rusty is that they are passing LAWS that force us to accept/hire/and not be allowed to speak our mind.
When a company is looking to hire a person, don't they look for the best candidate to fill the job? I do not realize companies hire people based on what they do in the bedroom?
How many people who do not like homosexuals/are against their "sinful ways" have hired them unknowningly. Are you going to argue that there are not gay people currently working for people that do not like gays?
So basicly what you are saying, homophobes like yourself can hire gay people as long as they dont admit what they do behind closed doors during the hiring process.
It removes OUR rights of free speech. It removes OUR right to hire or NOT HIRE whomever we want to.
It does not violate any of your rights Linda when base your hiring practices on picking the most qualified candidate. It is discrimination when you judging a person based on what they do outside of the job/in the bedroom. Those things have no impact on what they are required to do at work. The owner STILL HAS HIS/HER RIGHTS to feel that homosexuality is wrong. It does not influence how he/she runs his business.
I suppose it would be OK for a perspective employer to discrimante against a person for wearing a Pro-Bush button during an interview. The company does not hire this person because the person is a Republican and the company is against what the Republican party stands for. This would be acceptable in your eyes?
If this was a real situation, you would be the first to complain discrimination. In fact you have already proven yourself. You were screaming your rights were violated when you were kicked of the OTWA because you felt you were not allowed to express your REPUBLICAN views.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on May 16, 2007 05:10:08 PM newFor instance, female employees would have to endure both systematic sexual harassment and a hostile work environment by being forced to share bathroom facilities with male employees who get their jollies from wearing a dress, high heels and lipstick,
What is absurd is this example.
How many companies out there allow men to dress in drag during work hours, yet alone then allow these men to use a women's washroom?
"What female employee wants to share the company restroom with a big-boned man claiming to be 'transitioning' to 'womanhood?' Will companies have to build 'transgender male' and 'transgender female' restrooms?"
How many male to female transgendered people are currently using the women's washroom without the females knowing they are part man? If the person looks female, do women check what is down below to make sure they are all woman??
I suppose Linda goes around checking all the stalls in a women's washroom to make sure an individual isnt going number 1 while standing.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on May 16, 2007 05:10:55 PM new
ANYONE who reads what those who oppose ALL this TYPE of legislation....will CLEARLY understand how THEY believe it WILL limit their freedom of speech and freedom to hire whom they want to.
They don't want some weirdo trans-dresser teaching their children .....they don't want to not be able to say the gay lifestyle is sinful....etc....etc...etdc
YOU don't have to agree....but you sure as heck don't have the right to take away THEIR rights because you don't like what they're saying.
Because some Bible book store doesn't want to hire some man dressed as a women.
They have RIGHTS also.
If anyone has ANY business that hiring some man dressing as a women might keep buyers from coming into their shops and purchasing their merchandize....THAT is their right not to hire them. JUST as it would be if they had full body tattos and purple hair.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 16, 2007 05:17:54 PM newOtherwise we wouldn't be seeing this nonsense put into LAW
If we didn't have bigots like you and your drones, there would not be a need to create these laws. It is you and your fellow bigots that can not separate the person from the act. You continually judge any gay person by what they do in the bedroom?
So Linda when was the last time a perspective employer asked about your bedroom habits in order to judge whether or not you were qualified for a job?
You can judge a person for what they do or don't do, but this should not be a reason for a person to be declined a job. Until you and the rest of the bigots realize this, these laws are necessary.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on May 16, 2007 05:21:48 PM newThey don't want some weirdo trans-dresser teaching their children
Again how can you tell. If a person has breasts and is wearing a lot of make up, how would you know the difference.
You are assuming the person will be wearing some sort of wig, dime store make up and have a beard.
Furthermore, if parents don't like what ie being taught in school, they have the RIGHT to not allow their children to go to that school and home school their children and teach them the values that they want.
Why should a school dismiss a perfectly qualified teacher jsut because some parents don't like the fact that they were once a man.
I have scene some pretty scary people working at Target and they are far from being trans gendered.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on May 16, 2007 05:27 PM ]
posted on May 16, 2007 05:29:20 PM new
Get a clue, ld, ALL people seeking jobs already HAVE protections against discrimination.
This is trying to limit speech and force others BY LAW to go against their own principles....ethics....MORALS....etc.
You will NEVER be able to tell ANY preacher that he/she can't teach what the Bible says about gays. PERIOD.
The American people will NEVER allow their constitutional freedom to practice their religions/religious beliefs to appease you and your ilk.
You're just going to have to learn to LIVE with it. Grow up...go about your lives and stop forcing your special interest desires upon the whole nation.
I will NEVER be stopped from disagreeing with the gay/trans gender lifestyle. NEVER.
Nor will millions and millions of OTHER American's who hold different moral views than you and your ilk do.
You're just going to have to life with the FACT that you're outnumbered in your quest to achieve all these special benefits/protections. You're no better than anyone else. And you're sure as heck not more SPECIAL and any other American.
posted on May 16, 2007 07:18:52 PM newALL people seeking jobs already HAVE protections against discrimination.
No they do not Linda. There are only certain groups that are protected against discrimination. You need to get with it. You are spreading false information once again.
This is trying to limit speech and force others BY LAW to go against their own principles....ethics....MORALS....etc.
That is your opinion because you don't want to see it as discrimination.
The American people will NEVER allow their constitutional freedom to practice their religions/religious beliefs to appease you and your ilk.
You and your fellow bigots can claim it is your religion to be hateful against gays all you want. But any Christian will know that Jesus did not preach hate like you believe in. You have your freedom to practice your religion and religious beliefs, but that does not give you the right to suggest your religious beliefs are superior to anyone else or dictate the laws of this country. Now go carry your cross to someone that cares. Stop trying to be a martyr for your so called cause.
You're just going to have to life with the FACT that you're outnumbered in your quest to achieve all these special benefits/protections. You're no better than anyone else. And you're sure as heck not more SPECIAL and any other American.
I don't have to accept anything Linda. You are just going to have to get used to be people being different than what you believe in. Just because you do not like something does not make it wrong. Gays, lesbians and trans gendered people will continue to fight for what they deserve. You can not silence 10% of the population. Come down off your moral majority high horse and read what Jesus actually taught. You are not any more special than anyone else.
It is nice to know how you and the rest of the bigots of this country are such easily offended by people that have undergone a sex change operation.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on May 16, 2007 08:10:13 PM new
You're correct in ONE way, ld.
ALL have a right to feel differently than others do. It's called LIBERTY.
You and your ilk have no right to make free speech 'hate speech' by LAW.
Otherwise this will no longer be the good old USA....where freedom and liberty belong to all of us. Even those who don't see your lifestyle as being moral.
And then others will come after YOUR constitutional right to free speech....and make some crazy LAW that says you can't speak out against what I support. It would then be breaking the law to bash those of faith.
Pretty soon....no one will be able to say ANYTHING....because it will ALL have been made illegal to speak about ANYTHING that might offend anyone.
Nope....that won't ever work.
And this President will NEVER allow any law like this to pass.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 17, 2007 06:58:22 AM newAnd then others will come after YOUR constitutional right to free speech....and make some crazy LAW that says you can't speak out against what I support. It would then be breaking the law to bash those of faith.
You have no problem giving up your rights and freedom when it comes to protecting this country - ie the Patriot Act. But yet you have a problem when you feel your rights will be given up in order to stop discrimination. Absolutely absurd. I have yet to figure out how a gay person is a threat to your way of life.
And this President will NEVER allow any law like this to pass.
Luckily we only have another 18 months to deal with Chimpy McFlightsuit. Hopefully the next president will realize discrimination of any kind is wrong.
ALL have a right to feel differently than others do. It's called LIBERTY.
You are a joke. You say this now, but for how long have you be saying anyone that does not share your views on Bush or the war are Anti-Americans, terrorist supports and traitors. Practice what you preach Linda.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on May 17, 2007 08:36:22 AM new
Take away my freedom of speech....and yours will soon be taken away also.
Try and regulate my THOUGHTS and soon yours will be limited by LAW also.
Wake up....this isn't communist china, yet. The progressives haven't won the WH.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on May 17, 2007 11:15:43 AM newThey now want to FORCE others who don't accept the weird lifestyles
what about nuns, linda?
That's a pretty 'weird' lifestyle.
Are you as judgemental with regards to the highly religious?
They, too, are in the minority.
Can't miss noticing those silly penguin outfits walking around.
and everyone KNOWS whats going on in their bedroom
Chances are you've crossed paths with many cross-dressed individuals and not even known it.
Can't miss those nuns though.
How Offensive!
[ edited by zoomin on May 17, 2007 11:16 AM ]
posted on May 17, 2007 11:18:43 AM new
You're missing the whole point, zoomin.
If we limit what you say that may offend me....and the same is allowed to happen in reverse....pretty soon we're like communists nations....where all can't speak out at all....unless the gov [PC] police allow it.
Nope...that's NOT what American's all about.
We haven't started the re-education PC camps yet. Thank heaven.
posted on May 17, 2007 11:28:22 AM new
Try to picture in your minds....how would you feel IF nuns wanted to force gay clubs/bathhouses to HIRE them. LOL LOL LOL
That would ALSO go over like a lead balloon. LOL LOL LOL
Yep let's make THAT the law now. LOL LOL LOL
Priests too. I'm sure the gay clubs/etc would LOVE being forced to hire a person of faith they didn't WANT to hire.
posted on May 17, 2007 11:33:31 AM new
you didn't answer the question.
Do you not think that nuns have a weird lifestyle?
They are a minority.
They dress differently and have different bedroom habits.
Not the norm.
Is that not bizarre behavior to you? (or bazaar, as you spell it)
Do you categorically reject their lifestyle?
Why not ask a nun to go apply for a job at the local nightclub and see if she gets hired?
okay, that was extreme but try it??
How about a nun working in the public school system?
I wouldn't want that religious lunatic weirdo penguin dresser teaching my kids.
How about a little hate speech towards these 'brides'?
think that would go over well or be prosecuted to the extreme?
hmmm...I'm thinking special rights.
posted on May 17, 2007 11:38:08 AM new
I laughed at your suggestion of nuns.
I didn't answer because NUNS areN'T trying to FORCE their lifestyle upon all of us as are these weirdos.
Get that zoomin. They're trying to pass LAWS against free speech and against allowing businesses to hire whom they want to.
Imo, that's un-American.
The behavior of nuns has NOTHING to do with this since they're NOT trying to get 'special' laws to bow down to their behavior. LOL
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on May 17, 2007 11:39 AM ]
posted on May 17, 2007 11:48:52 AM new
no, Linda, you didn't answer because nuns are not the norm, are not the victims of hate speech or discrimination, and do not dress to the norm or have normal bedroom habits.(, no pun intended)
How are cross-dressers trying to "force their lifestyle upon us"?
Nuns are out there every day in plain site ~ can't believe they have the right to force that on me!
So why aren't the nuns weirdos (as you call it)?
posted on May 17, 2007 11:56:19 AM newto give special privileges to "gay" and "transgendered" individuals
This would be similar to the affermative action law. It would require a business to hire someone based upon their sexual orientation over someone that is more qualified, in the same manner that a business needs to hire someone of color or other minority instead of a MORE qualified person who may not be a minority.
I am in favor of hiring the most qualified people first. If they happen to be a minority, great. If not, let's quit writing laws that discriminate against non-minority people by taking away a job to an otherwise qualified person.
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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?
posted on May 17, 2007 03:35:42 PM new
No, zoomin....even YOU don't get to speak for me. LOL Never, ever.
And you're only fooling yourself, no one else, IF as it appears you hold views that 'hate speech' hasn't OFTEN been directed towards priests....and ALL Christians.
But those like you NEVER ever whine when that's being done. Nope....that 'hate' is okay and according to SOME....lol...lol...we don't need LAWS to stop that.
JUST as we don't need laws to silence peoples thoughts nor their ability to hire or NOT whomever they WANT TO HIRE. Keeping America FREE.
or who suffer from gender confusion ("gender identity"
Are YOU a Bunghole?