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 mingotree
 
posted on May 14, 2007 08:29:13 PM new
No More YouTube, MySpace for U.S. Troops
Fresh from its battle against blogs, the U.S. military now appears to be going after video and social networking sites (at least those it doesn't control). Effective Monday, U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan will not be allowed access to websites like MySpace and YouTube using military networks, Stars and Stripes reports.

Although the ostensible reason is to conserve precious bandwidth, the articles notes: "Ironically, the Defense Department this year had just begun expanding its own use of YouTube to reach a younger, broader audience and show clips of U.S. troops in action." Officials appeared to claim the issue was bandwidth, not content:""


DEFINITE SUPPRESSING OF FREE SPEECH!

DEFINITELY NOT SUPPORTING THE TROOPS!

YOUR government at work.



 
 Bear1949
 
posted on May 15, 2007 08:12:40 AM new
Free Speech? Support the Troops ? ABSOLUTELY.


Looks as though they DO have access to MySpace, YouTube and nine other Web sites, ONLY NOT THROUGH THE MILITARY INTERNET OUTLETS.

But craw FAILED to point that out.

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By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Mon May 14, 4:03 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Lt. Daniel Zimmerman, an infantry platoon leader in Iraq, puts a blog on the Internet every now and then "to basically keep my friends and family up to date" back home.


It just got tougher to do that for Zimmerman and a lot of other U.S. soldiers. No more using the military's computer system to socialize and trade videos on MySpace, YouTube and nine other Web sites, the Pentagon says.

Citing security concerns and technological limits, the Pentagon has cut off access to those sites for personnel using the Defense Department's computer network. The change limits use of the popular outlets for service members on the front lines, who regularly post videos and journals.

"I put my blog on there and my family reads it," said Zimmerman, 29, a platoon leader with B Company, 1st Battalion, 28th Infantry Regiment.

"It scares the crap out of them sometimes," he said.

"I keep it as vague as possible," he said. "I'm pretty responsible about it. It's just basically to tell a little bit about my life over here" he said.

He's regularly at a base where he doesn't have Defense Department access to the Internet, but he has used it when he goes to bigger bases. He'll have to rely on a private account all the time now.

Memos about the change went out in February, and it took effect last week. It does not affect the Internet cafes that soldiers in Iraq use that are not connected to the Defense Department's network. The cafe sites are run by a private vendor, FUBI (For US By Iraqis).

Also, the ban also does not affect other sites, such as Yahoo, and does not prevent soldiers from sending messages and photos to their families by e-mail.

Internet use has become a troublesome issue for the military as it struggles to balance security concerns with privacy rights. As blogs and video-sharing become more common, the military has voiced increasing concern about service members revealing details about military operations or other information about equipment or procedures that will aid the enemy.

At the same time, service members have used the Web sites to chronicle their time in battle, posting videos and writing journals that provide a powerful, personal glimpse into their days at war.

"These actions were taken to enhance and increase network security and protect the use of the bandwidth," said Col. Gary Keck, a Pentagon spokesman.

The Pentagon said that use of the video sites in particular was putting a strain on the network, and also opening it to potential viruses or penetration by so-called "phishing" attacks in which scam artists try to steal sensitive data by mimicking legitimate Web sites.

"The U.S. Army's not going to pay the bill for you to get on MySpace and YouTube," said Maj. Bruce Mumford, of Chester, Neb., who is serving as the brigade communications officer for the 4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, in Iraq. "Soldiers need to know what they can and cannot do, but we shouldn't be facilitating it."

Warnings of the shutdown went out in February, and allowed troops to seek waivers if the sites were necessary for their jobs. Often insurgent groups post videos, including ones of attacks or — in some high profile cases — of U.S. or coalition soldiers who have been captured or killed.

"I guess it's a good general policy," Zimmerman said about the ban on MySpace and YouTube." If people could be trusted not to break operational security, then they wouldn't need to have the policy."

If the restrictions are intended to prevent soldiers from giving or receiving bad news, they could also prevent them from providing positive reports from the field, said Noah Shachtman, who runs a national security blog for Wired Magazine.


The sites covered by the ban are the video-sharing sites YouTube, Metacafe, IFilm, StupidVideos and FileCabi; social networking sites MySpace, BlackPlanet and Hi5; music sites Pandora, MTV, 1.fm and live365, and the photo-sharing site Photobucket.


It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.George S. Patton
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 15, 2007 08:20:00 AM new
Ya, bear, believe like a sheep what the Pentagon tells you...then google PAT TILLMAN!





""Looks as though they DO have access to MySpace, YouTube and nine other Web sites, ONLY NOT THROUGH THE MILITARY INTERNET OUTLETS. """



Uh, stupid, internet access in Iraq , where electicity is scarce, is extremely difficult.


The military just doesn't want the "wrong" thing coming back here...like how the war is really going.




 
 Bear1949
 
posted on May 15, 2007 08:45:19 AM new
Again you blanket indictment of the military limiting free speech is WRONG and now you are attempting to CRAWfish your way out of the hole you CRAWled into.





It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.George S. Patton
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on May 15, 2007 11:09:26 AM new
As are most things sybil posts here.

Half truths....lies....and always giving a different impression that what the truth of any subject really is.

It's her way..... to deceive.


"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"

"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."

Ann Coulter
 
 mingotree
 
posted on May 15, 2007 12:56:56 PM new
Again linduh babbles about lies NEVER being able to point out any specific lie.
Yet, sheeplike, she believes what military commanders say despite the PROOF that they lied about many things including what happened to Pat Tillman.....







 
 ST0NEC0LD613
 
posted on May 17, 2007 10:12:40 AM new
It's just like mingopig to edit the truth. She holds no credibility. She is an embarrasement to Minnesota and the rest of the country.

Reality is this does support the troops. It will be a huge step towards the internet not being a tool for the terrorists to locate our troops.


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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?


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