posted on June 19, 2007 07:09:06 PM new
Or is it ALLII??
It works by flushing the fat out of our system in a messy way!
I have long noticed Asian drink hot green tea with their meal which consists of fatty pork and dishes cooked with lard,it seems to have the same effect-flsuhing the fat out of the sytem .
Does anyone think green tea can do the same thing or do we all have to dish out 50 dollars for 60 pills?
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posted on June 19, 2007 07:15:18 PM new
My Japanese DIL does not use unhealthy ways of cooking...like using lard/etc.
She uses little oil if any in the meals she makes. Usually uses Pam to coat the pans.
She drinks green tea all the time...but has never mentioned it helping get rid of fat.
BUT...an overweight friend was given a prescription by his doctor that was supposed to eliminate the 'fat' in his waste. Supposedly it worked by not allowing the body to absorb the fat. It worked. He could see the oil in the toilet before he flushed. So some do work for that purpose. Which ones...I'd have no idea.
posted on June 20, 2007 10:16:27 AM new
Probably unrelated, but those of us who have the genetic condition of iron overload (Hemochromatosis) are told to drink tea, especially green tea, with our meals to help us not absorb the iron in the meal.
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posted on June 20, 2007 10:19:37 AM new
green tea prevents absorption of iron?
I often find some Asians looking anemic,I thought it has to do with inusfficient protein in their diet.
Soy has everything milk does,except iron.
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posted on June 20, 2007 10:23:39 AM new
Japanese do not overeat,food is expensive in Japan,besides their diet is rich in minerals,the veggies they get from the sea can have ten times more nutrition than land veggies.And the idoine they get from sea and even land produce as the salt water seeps into the soil.
And the sea breeze has it too!
But they do have a higher rate of throat and stomach cancer from the traditional diet of high salt and chemicals used to preserve food.
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posted on June 20, 2007 10:31:40 AM new
1 in 100 suffers from iron overload, the root cause of many life-ending diseases--cancer of any of the internal organs, heart failure from iron deposits in it, severe diabetes, etc. etc. Often misdiagnosed as chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia.
It's genetic and not found in any standard blood tests. Our bodies cannot sluff off iron the way a normal body does, so it accumulates. We who have this get that sludgy blood out of our bodies with (sometimes) months of phlebotomies weekly and then are in maintenance the rest of our lives. I'm tested every 3 months and have a phlebotomy if my iron levels have increased.
The crime is how many of our foods have added iron, which we have to avoid!
We don't take Vitamin C with foods, we don't eat carrots with meals (both tend to encourage the retention of iron), we avoid alcohol and red meat, etc. etc.
Green tea and other teas and coffee can help us avoid the retention of iron if we take them during meals. It's just a story of eternal vigilance. Not hard to maintain once we know the ropes.
There's a low incidence of iron overload (hemochromatosis) in Asia. No surprise.
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posted on June 20, 2007 06:07:43 PM new
Asians need more iron,they are not getting enough from their diet,Asian diet also tend to have too much salt.
I think if we eat a diversified range of food and do not overeat and exercise,most of us will be fine.
I have stopped drinking coffee for a week now,so far so good.
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posted on June 20, 2007 10:42:42 PM new
Profe, assuming it's a real question--a phlebotomy is when they take blood, whether at a blood bank or, in my case, in a lab. 1 pint each time. Those of us who have lots of them to get the iron out, initially, have one a week and in my case for almost 9 months. We'd rather not have a blood bank take it because of the large scarring needles they use. The laboratories use a smaller needle, leaves less scarring in the blood vessels.
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posted on June 21, 2007 05:26:11 AM new
I was just kiddin' around roadsmith, but thanks for the explanation. I had never heard of someone having too much iron.
posted on June 21, 2007 09:23:13 AM new
Profe: I've TOLD you guys I'm gullible! Now, to finish educating the masses. . . . Iron overload (Hemochromatosis) is the most common inherited disorder in the world. One in 150 are carriers, 1 in 100 probably have some complications from hemochromatosis. Rarely diagnosed correctly because the dr. has to suspect something and order the "ferritin panel" to see what the ferritin level is, and the saturation % in the blood.
Some are first diagnosed when they present with a certain kind of arthritis. Others, unfortunately, with a stage of liver cancer.
My Swedish grandfather is apparently the one who brought it into our extended family. He died at 62 with bad heart, and bronze diabetes (sure symptoms, but not even looked for in the 1940s).
I have iron overload and so does my brother; my cousin's son has it too. Thank God I nagged my brother and cousin to look into it; I've probably saved their lives.
The most common presenting symptom is chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia, falsely diagnosed without looking at the underlying cause. Also gout-like arthritis.
Okay. Lecture over!
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Phlebotomy is the act of drawing or removing blood from the circulatory system through a cut (incision) or puncture in order to obtain a sample for analysis and diagnosis. Phlebotomy is also done as part of the patient's treatment for certain blood disorders.
Purpose
Treatment
Phlebotomy that is part of treatment (therapeutic phlebotomy) is performed to treat polycythemia vera,a condition that causes an elevated red blood cell volume (hematocrit). Phlebotomy is also prescribed for patients with disorders that increase the amount of iron in their blood to dangerous levels, such as hemochromatosis, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C. Patients with pulmonary edema may undergo phlebotomy procedures to decrease their total blood volume.
Diagnosis
Phlebotomy is also used to remove blood from the body during blood donation and for analysis of the substances contained within it.
Precautions
Patients who are anemic or have a history of cardiovascular disease may not be good candidates for phlebotomy.
Description
Phlebotomy, which is also known as venesection, is performed by a nurse or a technician known as a phlebotomist. Blood is usually taken from a vein on the back of the hand or inside of the elbow. Some blood tests, however, may require blood from an artery. The skin over the area is wiped with an antiseptic, and an elastic band is tied around the arm. The band acts as a tourniquet, slowing the blood flow in the arm and making the veins more visible. The patient is asked to make a fist, and the technician feels the veins in order to select an appropriate one. When a vein is selected, the technician inserts a needle into the vein and releases the elastic band. The appropriate amount of blood is drawn and the needle is withdrawn from the vein. The patient's pulse and blood pressure may be monitored during the procedure.
For some tests requiring very small amounts of blood for analysis, the technician uses a finger stick. A lance, or small needle, makes a small cut in the surface of the fingertip, and a small amount of blood is collected in a narrow glass tube. The fingertip may be squeezed to get additional blood to surface.
The amount of blood drawn depends on the purpose of the phlebotomy. Blood donors usually contribute a unit of blood (500 mL) in a session. The volume of blood needed for laboratory analysis varies widely with the type of test being conducted. Therapeutic phlebotomy removes a larger amount of blood than donation and blood analysis require. Phlebotomy for treatment of hemochromatosis typically involves removing a unit of blood—or 250 mg of iron— once a week. Phlebotomy sessions are required until iron levels return to a consistently normal level, which may take several months to several years. Phlebotomy for polycythemia vera removes enough blood to keep the patient's hematocrit below 45%. The frequency and duration of sessions depends on the patient's individual needs.
posted on June 21, 2007 03:36:52 PM new
Linda, sweetheart, sometimes you are toooooo much. What was wrong with my use of the word phlebotomy, you silly twit? Was it that I defined it as a unit (pint) of blood, since that's what was the reality for us patients? You, darling, need to get a life. How much time did you spend out of your valuable life looking up and proving I was wrong???? God, you must be impossible to live me, sweetie.
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