posted on August 10, 2007 08:49:42 AM new
While I personally would rather it NOT take another attack....this article in Phil.com does speak to what's been happening in America. And it's pathetic that we're in this position.
Of course, I personally blame in on the left...the dems, the liberals and all the wacko anti/un-American groups. To me, they're the ones who have brought about this terrible division and diversion about who our enemies really are. Most of them appear to me to believe our President is their enemy and the muslims are just all a peace-loving people. THAT thinking SCARES me.
And it's one HUGE reason why I'm praying that NO dem is elected as our CIC, nor that they gain more control in either house. Then, I fear, we might just experience ANOTHER 9-11 before they would wake up and be FORCED to take action.
Only THEN would they not have a CIC who has been willing to fight these terrorists to blame it upon. I'm sure they still would...
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Stu Bykofsky |
To save America, we need another 9/11
ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America.
What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?
A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.
It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.
Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.
Most Americans today believe Iraq was a mistake. Why?
Not because Americans are "anti-war."
Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don't have the patience for a long slog. We've been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.
That's not the American way.
In Iraq, we don't believe our military is being beaten on the battleground. It's more that there is no formal "battleground." There is the drip of daily casualties and victory is not around the corner. Americans are impatient. We like fast food and fast war.
Americans loved the 1991 Gulf War. It raged for just 100 hours when George H.W. Bush ended it with a declaration of victory. He sent a half-million troops into harm's way and we suffered fewer than 300 deaths.
America likes wars shorter than the World Series.
Bush I did everything right, Bush II did everything wrong - but he did it with the backing of Congress.
Because the war has been a botch so far, Democrats and Republicans are attacking one another, when they aren't attacking themselves. The dialog of discord echoes across America.
Turn back to 9/11.
Remember the community of outrage and national resolve? America had not been so united since the first Day of Infamy - 12/7/41.
We knew who the enemy was then.
We knew who the enemy was shortly after 9/11.
Because we have mislaid 9/11, we have endless sideshow squabbles about whether the surge is working, if we are "safer" now, whether the FBI should listen in on foreign phone calls, whether cops should detain odd-acting "flying imams," whether those plotting alleged attacks on Fort Dix or Kennedy airport are serious threats or amateur bumblers. We bicker over the trees while the forest is ablaze.
America's fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.
What would sew us back together?
Another 9/11 attack.
The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The U.S. is a target-rich environment for al Qaeda.
Is there any doubt they are planning to hit us again?
If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.
The unity brought by such an attack sadly won't last forever.
The first 9/11 proved that. *
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Find this article at:
http://www.philly.com/dailynews/columnists/stu_bykofsky/20070809_Stu_Bykofsky___To_save_America__we_need_another_9_11.html
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on August 10, 2007 09:07:39 AM new
And imo, our PRESS/MSM/biased TV commentators have added GREATLY to the division we in America now face. THEY inaccurately report the events about our military/war/Iraq. Their biased, one-sided, anti-war reports are almost ALL negative - only reporting the deaths, injuries and not our troops successes.
But at least, it appears the general public MIGHT be noticing that themselves. I certainly hope that is the case and that might just cause them to listen to our military commanders, those on the ground, and what they tell us.
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US public sees news media as biased, inaccurate, uncaring: poll
Aug 9 06:28 PM US/Eastern
More than half of Americans say US news organizations are politically biased, inaccurate, and don't care about the people they report on, a poll published Thursday showed.
And poll respondents who use the Internet as their main source of news -- roughly one quarter of all Americans -- were even harsher with their criticism, the poll conducted by the Pew Research Center said.
More than two-thirds of the Internet users said they felt that news organizations don't care about the people they report on; 59 percent said their reporting was inaccurate; and 64 percent they were politically biased.
More than half -- 53 percent -- of Internet users also faulted the news organizations for "failing to stand up for America".
Among those who get their news from newspapers and television, criticism of the news organizations was up to 20 percentage points lower than among Internet news audiences, who tend to be younger and better educated than the public as a whole, according to Pew.
The poll indicates an across the board fall in the public's opinion on the news media since 1985, when a similar survey was conducted by Times Mirror, Pew Research said.
"Two decades ago, public attitudes about how news organizations do their job were less negative. Most people believed that news organizations stood up for America... a majority believed that news organizations got the facts straight," Pew said in a report.
The Washington-based Pew Research Center describes itself as a nonpartisan "fact tank" that provides information on the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on August 10, 2007 09:48:13 AM new
"""Stu Bykofsky |
To save America, we need another 9/11"""
Well, the bushits used the first one for their political agenda but to even suggest another one or POST suggesting another one is proof positive of the poster's sheer hatred for America and Americans ..... siding with terrorists!.
FOR SHAME!!!!!!!!
"""America had not been so united since the first Day of Infamy - 12/7/41.
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And it was BUSHIT "The Great Divider" who changed THAT!
So the writer of the OP WANTS another attack to quiet...to squelch the FREE SPEECH...of those who don't fall in line!
Squelch what AMERICA stands for!!!?????
He's willing to have MORE Americans slaughtered to QUIET THE OPPOSITION ????
posted on August 10, 2007 10:23:21 AM new
"Because the war has been a botch so far, Democrats and Republicans are attacking one another, when they aren't attacking themselves. The dialog of discord echoes across America"
"how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq "
posted on August 10, 2007 10:47:09 AM newIraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.
One could argue that is what the terrorists wanted and all they have to do is keep up what they are doing and they will continue to win.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 10, 2007 11:03:20 AM new
It appears, CC, that YOU are one where another 9-11 style attack WILL be necessary BEFORE you wake up and 'get it'.
that we have forgotten who the enemy is.
It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.
posted on August 10, 2007 11:06:31 AM new
linduh, ""Linda_K
posted on August 10, 2007 11:03:20 AM new
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It appears, CC, that YOU are one where another 9-11 style attack WILL be necessary BEFORE you wake up and 'get it'.""
posted on August 10, 2007 11:20:11 AM new
Once again the right promotes slaughter, violence as the solution to any problem...it saves what few brain cells these neanderthals have.
posted on August 10, 2007 11:28:26 AM new
Besides using the word 'ineptitude' and agreeing the war was botched he also said that most Americans think it was a mistake and said it's not because they are 'anti-war'.
Terrorism has increased worldwide because of this 'botching' and 'ineptitude'- Bush's retaliation against the wrong enemy and failure to secure the borders in Iraq and take control at the beginning.
He also said that the unity felt from another attack will not last forever.
Any other attacks anywhere will only add even more hatred and misunderstanding to that which already prevails.
posted on August 10, 2007 11:36:43 AM new
CC you better watch out, you posted with your other user id. Linda will focus on that rather than what the author of her post is trying to express.
No matter how slowly you try and explain something to Linda she still will not get it. I guess that is what happens when she has the IQ of a 5th grader.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 10, 2007 11:37:45 AM new
Nope, there is no doubt in my mind that you have missed his WHOLE point....aside from his personal views.
It is the lefts position that we are NOT fighting a fight with IRAN in Iraq. We are NOT fighting AQ in Iraq. That we are losing the war....and need to retreat.
And could you REALLY deny that the terrorists in Iraq and the world over would see that as a victory for themselves? Honestly?
You are one like my A.C. tag line says. Want out of Iraq and then just wait until we're attacked again.
You're one who supports doing nothing....don't allow the gov. to set new standards so we can catch/arrest those cells inside our Nation BEFORE they act. Your side has fought that tooth and nail.....UNTIL just recently when they voted to have warrant less searches. But, imo ONLY because your party NOW sees that American's were AGAIN seeing your party as the 'do nothing party'....who wouldn't ACT against terrorists.
And as SOON as your party voted to SUPPORT this administration on the warrent-less searches, YOUR house leader, pelosi, seeks out a camera to announce they're going to CHANGE that.
LOL They're a bunch of do nothing, so called leaders, who vote one way and then speak out in total opposition of what they JUST voted FOR. And THIS wasn't the first time they've done the same thing.
They're COWARDS to defend America. To FIGHT the terrorists IN Iraq....and yet obama SAYS he'd invade Pakistan and bomb the terrorists.
He'd start WWIII and that's Okay with you liberals? lol lol
Right.....bomb an ALLY....but give victory to the terrorists in Iraq...who are supported by IRAN...who many liberals don't have a problem with the madman having nuclear arms.
NOT leaders for America.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on August 10, 2007 11:50:06 AM new
"CC you better watch out, you posted with your other user id. Linda will focus on that rather than what the author of her post is trying to express."
Thanks for the heads up LD---GRRR...I am going to have to figure out why this keeps happening, even though am using my new ID. I am obviously screwing up somewhere or there is a glitch (most likely the former) Calling Vendio is like calling Mars. I am so PO'd at myself--more fodder for Linda.
posted on August 10, 2007 11:53:17 AM new
It is obvious to everyone but you that I am having a problem with this. My ID is MY business and not YOURS. LD was right--you could not wait to jump on it.
posted on August 10, 2007 12:01:32 PM new
Yeah, well, we all have our weaknesses Mine's computer technology--yours is spelling, grammar and reading comprehension.
Never denied it was my mistake, which I must have posted 2 or 3 times. But, my ID is still none of your business.
[ edited by coach81938 on Aug 10, 2007 12:02 PM ]
posted on August 10, 2007 12:06:16 PM new
Oh, yes.....since YOU can't grasp how to do something....or a couple of things here....then you make yourself 'feel better' by lying about ME?
And Just FYI, ld made note of you AGAIN using both userids....NOT ME.
Maybe YOUR reading and comprehension is failing and that's your need to falsely attack mine, again. Better READ more carefully about who's doing what. LOL
posted on August 10, 2007 12:09:43 PM new
LOL....take responsibility for what YOU continue doing. QUIT blaming ME for the fact that YOU continue using both userids to post here. AND then telling ME not to.
LOL LOL
You use them....ld mentions it and now you're blaming me. LOL
posted on August 10, 2007 12:19:11 PM new
Back to the topic....
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linduh, ""Linda_K
posted on August 10, 2007 11:03:20 AM new
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It appears, CC, that YOU are one where another 9-11 style attack WILL be necessary BEFORE you wake up and 'get it'.""
posted on August 10, 2007 12:40:16 PM new
Coach, Vendio may have changed things but at one time I used the contact form and had them block the Vendio ID's I used for selling from posting on the forums. When one is signed in and posting auctions, it's easy to use that same userid to post on the boards, whether one intends to or not. You can keep one ID for posting then but it requires you to sign in and sign out each time if you are also doing auctions so that's a nuisance too.
Of course most intelligent people quickly realize why it happens and don't make it any of their concern but there are always those troublemakers that have to have their nose in the personal doings of others and bring it to the forefront, perhaps hoping that lurkers or sockpuppets will take note - especially when they are unable to deal with an opposing opinion.
If you click 'Help' at the top of the page - Contact Us - Email - Subject - Other
and inquire they may be able to assist you if they still do this.
posted on August 10, 2007 01:05:49 PM newYou are one like my A.C. tag line says. Want out of Iraq and then just wait until we're attacked again.
Based on that you make it seem we are destined for another attack. I thought Bush's efforts will prevent future attacks. That is one of the main reasons "why we are fighting them there (Iraq) instead of here (US)".
So Linda which is it? Fight them in Iraq to prevent attacks or Bush's efforts are not helping because an attack is a definite thing.
While I personally would rather it NOT take another attack....
It seems like is hoping we are attacked again to prove a point.
Go ahead and believe some crazy like AC. You and her are exactly a like. Two dumb bi*ches that have their nose so far up Bush's rear end, you can't see what is really happening to this country.
Why not spend all that money that is being spent in Iraq to boost the US border security and improve America's security at home instead of helping people that do not want our help.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 10, 2007 01:09:12 PM newNow it's MY fault you can't grasp how it works? Just like you still can't grasp how to post a link....even though I've shared how to do so with you THREE times?
Now Linda is telling people what they can not grasp. This is coming from the idiot that can't grasp the fact that there is no CANADIAN language despite being shown the truth at least TEN times now. Linda you are the poster child for the mentally retarded. Maybe Jerry Lewis can start a telethon for your handicap.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 10, 2007 01:16:45 PM new
Gotta love how they not only can't accept responsibility for their OWN ACTIONS....but get confused so easily about who's doing what.
Let's see the FACTS. CC has posted on vendio/AW SINCE may 1,2000 using ONE of the usierids SHE continues posting with as recently as today.
Like mingo has done.....she uses her userid all these years and then whines when someone uses a 'nickname' for her CURRENT userid. LOL
She can use it....but no one else can.
She claims it's no one's business. BUT, think any one reading here hasn't taken notice, especially since it's been pointed out to her that she's using TWO different ids in the SAME THREAD....causing confusion about just who's posting.
hmmmm... reminds me of how off the wall mingotree went while using her ebay userid here and then had constant SCREAMING matches with those who viewed her auctions. LOL Even raged at other LIBERALS for looking.
DUH.
Then she too changed her original userid here. BUT....as many can see, who STILL uses BOTH userids here, on occasion as a couple other posters ALSO dos.
Now, we have a repeat performance from CC. Still using BOTH userids in the same threads.....and blaming ME, rather than logansdad for pointing it out to her. Of course, HE was predicting the future of my actions....lol...lol..so it's OKAY that HE brought it up....when I had NOT.
Now, I'd think that IF one didn't want their id to be known....they'd have LONG ago changed it and NOT continue using it. Figure out HOW to not use it. But day after day CC posts here using BOTH to post with rather than stop posting UNTIL she can figure out how NOT TO DO SO.
Confused. Liberals are so easily confused....and of course, blame their ACTIONS on others.
It IS the 'business' of EVERYONE who reads here.....as SHE continues to make it public.
It's a PUBLIC board....where many will see it ALL by themselves.
posted on August 10, 2007 01:16:48 PM newRight.....bomb an ALLY....
I guess that is better than bombing a country that had nothing to with 9/11.
but give victory to the terrorists in Iraq...
How can you give victory to someone, when the mission has changed so many times and when Bush and his cabinet can not even define victory for the US, but he claims it is reachable.
who many liberals don't have a problem with the madman having nuclear arms.
You have no problem with a crazy man in the White House being able to push a button to set of our nuclear weapons. Remember which country actually has used nuclear weapons before.
NOT leaders for America.
Bush is not the poster child for the best president. That is why he only has a 30 something percent approval rating. That is an "F" in my book.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 10, 2007 01:18:45 PM new
Ld, you make MANY of the points the writer of the OP mentioned.
Those of you who are CONFUSED about who the enemy is....and who's planning on doing what to our nation.
You're just confused...and you're part of the problem he speaks about.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
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