posted on August 14, 2007 09:22:10 AM new
From good old boy Mitt:
The good news is that we have a volunteer Army and that's the way we're going to keep it," Romney told the crowd, adding, "[O]ne of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping to get me elected, because they think I'd be a great president."
How does helping their dad on the campaign trail support our troops? It doesn't. This is just more flawed logic coming from the Repiblicans.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 14, 2007 10:34:10 AM newYAWN - old news.
Just like you and the rest of the Republican party - old and tiresome.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 10:29:58 AM new
I wouldn't bother with it Linda. Logansdunce is already reaching. Just the same deflect tactic the demomorons always try to use.
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If it's called common sense, why do so few Demomorons have it?
posted on August 15, 2007 11:48:54 AM new
Bear must be second in line if he knows where my position is.
You must like sloppy seconds Bear if you can get any at all.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 12:06:22 PM new
"So now we select a president on whether his kids serve in the military? What next, we look at their SAT scores, batting average? Maybe we could give them a quiz on the tax code, or name the presidents…in alphabetical order and by date of service.
Here is an idea, leave the personal lives of the kids out of the news.
Did Chelsea serve? Her mom voted for the war? Did her husband serve?
This is where the candidates need to look at the reporter and say…That is a stupid question, next question please."
From a blog, my sentiments exactly. Also remember they have a right to their religious convictions.
posted on August 15, 2007 12:09:44 PM new
Something I've always wanted to see but have never found online, are the stats to how many military soldiers are conservatives and how many are dems/liberals.
With the way the liberals/dems are always fighting against our soldiers....I'd sure think that MOST/the majority of soldiers would be conservative patriots.
Not the wackos that don't want recruitment taking place on THEIR ...lol....college campus', not the ones who always want to CUT our military rather than have a strong one, not the ones who are so quick to blame our soldiers for everything any wacko accuses them of....etc.
I'd place my bet that it's more conservatives than liberals who have served/are serving our nation.
And that MORE liberals/dems 'avoid service' that republicans.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on August 15, 2007 12:40:54 PM new
What is typical etexbill is how the Republicans claim how much they support the troops but yet not many are willing to have their own children serve.
Mitt's response proves that his children are more important helping him on the election trail than serving in Iraq. How elitist is that?
You idiots fail to even answer the question of how do Mitt's children following him around from state to state actually support the troops?
When one of you so-called geniuses can provide a plausible explanation, I'd like to hear it.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 01:18:39 PM new
"When one of you so-called geniuses can provide a plausible explanation, I'd like to hear it.
I just did, but like mingo, you don't comprehend or don't read.
The Morman Church does not believe in war as a viable solution. Although thousands of Mormans have served in the military, they do not have to. The Church discourages the use of conscientious objection in its ranks, but like millions of others they do not have to serve.
We do not have the draft. What they choose to do is none of your business.
posted on August 15, 2007 01:23:17 PM new
Did you serve?
If so, apparently they did not ask, or you did not tell.
[ edited by etexbill on Aug 15, 2007 01:24 PM ]
posted on August 15, 2007 01:47:00 PM new
You must be Irish etexbill, answering a question with a question.
Avoiding the question aksed.
You claim you answered the question.
I guess this is your answer: "Although thousands of Mormans have served in the military, they do not have to. The Church discourages the use of conscientious objection in its ranks, but like millions of others they do not have to serve.
We do not have the draft. What they choose to do is none of your business."
Oh boy what a lame excuse. Their religion discourages them from serving. I am sure that would really stand up with the military if they wanted to try dodging their military service if there was a draft.
And how does that answer the question. How does Mitt's children helping Mitt with the campaign support our troops?
Just another typical Republican giving a statement in the hopes of avoiding the question.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Aug 15, 2007 01:59 PM ]
posted on August 15, 2007 01:52:35 PM newOdd how some can't realize that in order to serve....they must be an adult.
That much is true.
Meaning their parents DON'T decide FOR THEM.
The minimum age to be in the military age with perental consent is 17. So yes Linda some parents can decide for them.
But yet again you avoided the question. You stupid Republicans have yet to say how supporting the Romeny campaign equals supporting the troops.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 02:03:49 PM newWe do not have the draft. What they choose to do is none of your business.
It becomes an issue when the Republican candidate for president brings it up because he says his sons are supporting the troops by helping him to get elected.
So yes it is now my business.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 02:07:29 PM new
And on your silly question.
BUY A CLUE.
Until everyone's child is FORCED to serve....and leaders that YOU support quit running away from the draft....DRAFT DODGERS - like clinton.....then you can whine about a candidate whos sons haven't chosen to serve. LIKE MILLIONS of others before them.
Make us a list of the children of liberals who served? LOL They try to indocrinate their children about why they SHOULDN'T ever do so.
We all can see how many liberals dems VOTED FOR THIS WAR. Give us a list of all their children who served. LOL LOL LOL
Oh...but those darn liberal/progressive double standards. tsk tsk tsk
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 15, 2007 02:08 PM ]
posted on August 15, 2007 02:11:50 PM newI'd place my bet that it's more conservatives than liberals who have served/are serving our nation.
I'd put my money on the fact that those in the military come from low income families and are mostly minorities.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 02:16:32 PM new
You know, I could spend all my life trying to change you from being so IGNORANT.....but it wouldn't help.
Several posts have been made proving what you just said to be TOTALLY FALSE.
But then, so is EVERYTHING else you spew here.
You are the MOST ignorant poster here.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on August 15, 2007 02:17:59 PM new
Guess this means we WON'T be seeing the list of ALL THOSE DEMS/LIBERALS who voted for the war....and all their children who have served in Iraq/Afghanistan, huh?
posted on August 15, 2007 02:36:26 PM new
Again, LD, you don't comprehend what you read. His statement said not a word about that is the way his sons supported the troops.
The statement that you yourself posted reads:
"[O]ne of the ways my sons are showing support for our NATION is helping to get me elected, because they think I'd be a great president.
And yes, that stands up in the military if there is a draft. Many conscientious objectors, because of their religion, serve in non-combat positions during a draft, all legal and binding. I would not call anyone stupid until you stop showing your azz everytime that you post.
posted on August 15, 2007 05:56:32 PM newYou are the MOST ignorant poster here.
Are you expressing you emotions again Linda. You are the one that is so misinformed about topic. You think you know everything about everything when in fact you know JACK.
You know, I could spend all my life trying to change you from being so IGNORANT.....but it wouldn't help.
See there is your problem always trying to change people. You can not accept the fact people are different. Not everyone wants to be a witch like you.
Several posts have been made proving what you just said to be TOTALLY FALSE.
How many times were your PROVEN WRONG ABOUT THE "CANADIAN" LANGUAGE. How many times Linda??? Ten or so, but it didn't stop you from posting. Go put a sock in it. You are nothing but a total hyprocrite. Do you even know what that means, you ignorant fool.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
[ edited by logansdad on Aug 15, 2007 05:59 PM ]
posted on August 15, 2007 06:06:53 PM newCONSENT is different from parents FORCING their children to join.
Linda do you even know what you post.
You posted: Meaning their parents DON'T decide FOR THEM
In order for someone that is 17 to join the military they need parental consent. Meaning the parents do make a decision about whether or not their child joins the military. So you are wrong in this case. In order for the child to enlist his parents need to decide whether or not to give consent. If they do not decide to give their consent, the child does not enlist.
Nobody brought up forcing their child to join the military but you. You obviously do not understand the difference between choice, decide and force you ignorant one.
If the child was old enough to decide on his own, he/she would not need his parent's permission (ie deicision) to enlist.
Do you got it now or do you need pictures to help you understand?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 06:18:58 PM newAnd yes, that stands up in the military if there is a draft. Many conscientious objectors, because of their religion, serve in non-combat positions during a draft, all legal and binding.
Ah yes they object, but they are still serving so in other words it did not get them out of the service. They are still "foreced to serve".
Based on your claim about using religion as a means to get out of military service, if there is a draft anyone can claim their religion tells them war is wrong or killing is wrong in order to get out of being drafted. The military will dismiss most of these claims.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
In summary, the additional years of recruit data (2004–2005) support the previous finding that U.S. military recruits are more similar than dissimilar to the American youth population. The slight differences are that wartime U.S. military enlistees are better educated, wealthier, and more rural on average than their civilian peers.
Recruits have a higher percentage of high school graduates and representation from Southern and rural areas. No evidence indicates exploitation of racial minorities (either by race or by race-weighted ZIP code areas).
Finally, the distribution of household income of recruits is noticeably higher than that of the entire youth population.
Household Income of Recruits
Like their peers in 1999 and 2003, recruits in 2004 and 2005 came primarily from middle-class areas. Poor areas are proportionally underrepresented in the wartime years (2003–2005).
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Now that I have AGAIN taken the time to PROVE to all you haven't a clue.......TRY and educate yourself for a change.
QUIT spewing LIES.
Your lack of knowledge about MOST things is NOT my 'opinion'....you verify it with every post you make.
Are YOU a Bunghole?