posted on August 15, 2007 10:28:22 AM new
By Brian Boyko
Contributor, [GAS]
Call Stephen Colbert, whose “Wikiality” has entered reality.
There are a few news stories breaking about people editing Wikipedia - including the CIA, Diebold, and U.S. Congressional Offices.
O’Reilly Media (the techie O’Reilly) has come out with information detailing that Fox News has been changing entries on Wikipedia as well - including one on Al Franken’s case with Bill O’Reilly (the caustic O’Reilly).
So we went ahead and took a look at other changes to Wikipedia allegedly made by the people from the Fox News offices - the changes originating from IP address “12.167.224.228“. (Here’s the DNS lookup for 12.167.224.228.) We’ve done the legwork of poring through all the edits and published a comprehensive list below, omitting corrections of minor errors and clarifications of fact, i.e., the innocuous. The following below are clearly anything but, however.
List of Fox News Changes to Wikipedia
Found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=12.167.224.228
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Below, you’ll find changes that were made by IP address 12.167.224.228, which resolves to Fox News. Changes are to the articles “Keith Olbermann”, “Chris Wallace”, “Carl Cameron”, “Brit Hume”, “Shepard Smith”, “Al Franken”, “Brian Wilson”, “CNN”, and “Greta Van Susteren”.
CHANGES TO: “KEITH OLBERMANN”
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Ultimately, Olbermann’s dissatisfaction with Bristol contributed to his departure from ESPN in 1997. Even several years after his departure, many people still consider Olbermann to be one of the best anchors that SportsCenter ever had, and his pairing with Dan Patrick the best tandem ever.
In high school, Olbermann compiled an extensive list of first and third base coaches in baseball history. This documentation now sits in the Hall of Fame, and is considered the definitive compendium of first and third base coaches in baseball history.
… mocking O’Reilly’s purported fetish for loofah sponges, as alleged in a sexual harrassment suit against O’Reilly.
According to Dash Riprock of americanpolitics.com, Olbermann “tells the truth, and he does it in a sharp, subtlety stated, but unmistakable style. It’s sad to realize that it is truly such an oddity these days to see someone with those qualities on TV.” [http://www.americanpolitics.com/20030401punditpap.html]
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On Monday, August 8, 2005, the day following [[Peter Jennings]]’s death from lung cancer, Olbermann revealed on-air that he had had a benign, fibrous tumor removed from the roof of his mouth just ten days earlier. In an explicit and controversial monologue, he attributed his tumor (and the resulting fear and pain) directly to his 27-year habit of smoking pipes and cigars. He vigorously urged his viewers not to wait until they see symptoms to quit. “Do whatever you have to do to stop smoking - now. While it’s easier.” According to [[Don Imus]] on the following morning’s [[Imus In The Morning]] broadcast, that statement nearly got Olbermann fired.
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On Monday, August 8, 2005, the day following [[Peter Jennings]]’s death from lung cancer, Olbermann revealed on-air that he had had a benign, fibrous tumor removed from the roof of his mouth just ten days earlier. In an explicit and controversial monologue, he attributed his tumor (and the resulting fear and pain) directly to his 27-year habit of smoking pipes and cigars. He was taken to task inthe blogosphere for trying to make the story about himself the day after news veteran Peter Jennigs passed away from lung cancer. According to [[Don Imus]] on the following morning’s [[Imus In The Morning]] broadcast, that statement nearly got Olbermann fired.
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O’Reilly’s show, ”[[The O’Reilly Factor]]”, airs on the Fox News Channel at the same time as Olbermann’s show on MSNBC, garnering ratings six times higher than Olbermann’s.
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O’Reilly’s show, ”[[The O’Reilly Factor]]”, airs on the Fox News Channel at the same time as Olbermann’s show on MSNBC, garnering ratings ten times higher than Olbermann’s.
(Keep an eye on this change in particular)
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Some conservatives feel that Olbermann’s reporting carries a liberal bias.
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Conservatives feel that Olbermann’s reporting carries a liberal bias.
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This move was widely ciritcized by the the media and the blogosphere and Olbermann was attacked for making the death of news icon Peter Jennings about himself.
CHANGES TO: “CHRIS WALLACE”
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[[Media Matters for America]], a progressive web-based organization that reports and criticizes what it describes as “conservative misinformation in the U.S. media”
[http://mediamatters.org/about_us/ Media Matters], disputed Wallace’s statement. [http://mediamatters.org/items/200609240002 Media Matters] It reviewed “dozens of interviews … with senior Bush aides” and found only one (a 2004 interview with [[United States Secretary of Defense|Secretary of Defense]] [[Donald Rumsfeld]]) in which Wallace raised the “basic charge that, pre-[[September 11, 2001 attacks|9-11]] … this government, the Bush administration, largely ignored the threat from Al Qaeda,” adding, “Mr. Secretary, it sure sounds like fighting terrorism was not a top priority.” [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,115436,00.html FOX News] The organization found no interviews in which Wallace or his predecessor, [[Tony Snow]], had asked a Bush administration official about the treatment of Clarke or about the lack of response to the ”Cole” bombing.
On [[October 15]], Wallace interviewed the Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice. Because he had told Clinton that his questions were prompted in part by emailed requests, some [[Modern American liberalism|liberals]] organized campaigns to email Wallace a request that he ask Rice about the Bush administration’s lack of response to the ”Cole” bombing. One organization, the [[Center for American Progress]], said that 20,000 such emails had been sent. [http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/wallace-ignores-emailshttp://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/15/wallace-ignores-emails “Think Progress”, October 15, 2006] Nevertheless, Wallace did not ask Rice about the ”Cole” bombing.[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,220948,00.html “Transcript: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on ‘FNS’”]
Changes To: “CARL CAMERON”
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Cameron has been criticized as being a partisan Republican in his reporting, often interjecting subjective labels on Democrats in order to attack them. In one segment, for example, Cameron attacked three separate Democrats in a time period of only fifteen seconds, deaming them variously, “fairly typical liberal partisan”, “Angry liberal,” and “extremist”[http://mediamatters.org/items/200501130003].
== Journalistic Fraud ==
Media watchdog groups have documented a number of occassions in which Carl Cameron has fabricated statements by Democratic politicians, seemingly to boost their Republican opponents. Among other quotes, Cameron once claimed that John Kerry labeled [[George W. Bush]] a “warmonger” who intended to create “perpetual war” around the world - no such instance of that criticism ever occurred. In another instance, Cameron fabricated an interview with Kerry in which Kerry referred to Bush as a “Cowboy” and spoke feminently about getting his “nails done”, a more open attempt to humiliate and belittle Kerry, for which Fox News eventually apologized for.[http://mediamatters.org/items/200410040006][http://mediamatters.org/items/200409210009].
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(Ah - Fox didn’t delete the word “some” - they just moved it…)
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Cameron has been criticized by democrats as being a partisan Republican in his reporting.
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Cameron has been criticized by some democrats as being a partisan Republican in his reporting.
Changes to “BRIT HUME”
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[http://www.airamericaradio.com/weblogs/alfrankenshow/index.php?/franken/hume_context/]”
* [http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/2004/02/001613.html Honoring Brit Hume dishonors journalism (AlterNet)]
[http://www.wage-slave.org/archives/00000233.html]”
[http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/ma_opinion/article/0%2C071%2CNPDN_14922_2662908%2C00.html The Marcophile: Media’s Brit blind spot (Naples, {FL} Daily News)]
Brit Hume’s son, Washington journalist [[Sandy Hume]] was a reporter for The Hill. Sandy Hume broke the story of the aborted 1997 coup against House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In February 1998 Sany Hume committed [[suicide]] by a self inflicted gunshot from a hunting rifle. The [[National Press Club]] honors his memory with the annual Sandy Hume Memorial Award for Excellence in Political Journalism.
[[Image:Hume Screenshot.jpg|200x|thumb|A screenshot of the Fox News website that promotes statements of Brit Hume’s, some of which opponents charge are factually inaccurate.]]
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[[MSNBC]] commentator Keith Olbermann claimed that Hume and FOX News committed “premeditated, historical fraud” in distorting FDR [http://mediamatters.org/items/200502150008]; on Olberman’s show, James Roosevelt, Jr., said that Hume’s “outrageous distortion” of FDR “calls for a retraction, an apology, maybe even a resignation” [http://mediamatters.org/items/200502160003].
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[[MSNBC]] commentator Keith Olbermann claimed that Hume and FOX News committed “premeditated, historical fraud” in distorting FDR [http://mediamatters.org/items/200502150008] on Olberman’s low-rated cable television program.
(Not only do they plant MMfA with “liberal” but apparently no one taught Fox how to use “a article” properly)
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…with the criticism led by [[Media Matters for America]], an organization that critiques the press in search of conservative bias and bloopers.
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…with the criticism led by [[Media Matters for America]], an liberal organization that critiques the press in search of conservative bias and bloopers.
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Many groups and commentators, including [[Media Matters for America]], and liberal broadcasters [[Al Franken]], and [[Keith Olbermann]], have claimed that Hume distorted Roosevelt’s views.
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Many groups and commentators, including [[Media Matters for America]], and liberal broadcasters [[Al Franken]], and [[Keith Olbermann]], have claimed that Hume distorted Roosevelt’s views in an attempt to ride Mr. Hume’s coat tails in the ratings race as Mr. Hume hosts the highest rated political program on cable television.
(You could make a case that Sandy Hume, so unlike his father doesn’t deserve to have his sexual orientation “outed” and that’s why Fox removed it. Then again… this is FOX we’re talking about…)
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On [[February 22]] [[1998]] Brit’s homosexual 28-year-old son [[Sandy Hume (journalist)|Sandy]] was found dead in his [[Arlington, Virginia|Arlington]] apartment. Hume died of a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head.
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On [[February 22]] [[1998]] Brit’s 28-year-old son [[Sandy Hume (journalist)|Sandy]] was found dead in his [[Arlington, Virginia|Arlington]] apartment. Hume died of a self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head.
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On the February 3 edition of FOX News’ ”Special Report with Brit Hume”, Hume claimed that [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], the founder of [[Social Security (United States)|Social Security]], would have endorsed privatization:
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On the February 3 edition of FOX News’ ”Special Report with Brit Hume”, Hume claimed that [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]], the founder of [[Social Security (United States)|Social Security]], had proposed something similar to the personal accounts offered by President Bush as part of his Social Security reform plan:
(Subtle…)
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Controversy surrounded Hume when he was awarded the National Press Foundation’s Broadcaster of the Year award in [[2004]]. The head of the [[University of Missouri]]’s Washington journalism program, Geneva Overholser, furiously resigned from the Foundation’s board due to her belief that Hume’s political views are connected to his journalistic work. Past recipients of the award such as National Public Radio’s Nina Totenberg have also been criticized for allegedly biased journalism. However, Overholser did not step down over controviersies surrounding liberal award recipients.
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Controversy surrounded Hume when he was awarded the National Press Foundation’s Broadcaster of the Year award in [[2004]]. The head of the [[University of Missouri]]’s Washington journalism program, Geneva Overholser, foolishly resigned from the Foundation’s board due to her belief that Hume’s political views are connected to his journalistic work. Past recipients of the award such as National Public Radio’s Nina Totenberg have also been criticized for allegedly biased journalism. However, Overholser did not step down over controviersies surrounding the liberal award recipients.
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As a young Washington Post reporter Hume discovered that the [[1972]] [[Republican National Convention]] had been underwritten by [[AT&T]] and that an [[antitrust]] case had been conveniently dropped by the [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]] White House shortly thereafter. This greatly embarrassed Richard Nixon who then had Hume and his wife and children observed by two [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] agents for several months. The agents nicknamed Hume “eggnog” for his blondish hair and observed his family going about their daily business. This came to light during the [[Gerald Ford|Ford]] administration during congressional hearings. Part of the reason ABC later hired Hume was his self-assured and impressive demeanor during the televised hearings.
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As a reporter for Jack Anderson’s column, Hume uncovered an internal corporate memo indicating that the [[1972]] [[Republican National Convention]] had been underwritten by [[ITT]] and that, in exchange, an [[antitrust]] case had been conveniently dropped by the [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]] White House shortly thereafter. Later, Anderson published a series classified documents indicating the Nixon administration, contrary to its public pronouncements, had tipped in favor of Pakistan during the 1971 India-Pakistan war. After those revelations, Anderson and his staff, including Hume, his wife and children were placed under surveillance by the Central Intelligence Agency. The agents code-named Hume “eggnog” and observed his family going about their daily business. This came to light during the [[Gerald Ford|Ford]] administration in Congressional hearings, and as the result of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.
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However, Olbermann has on more than one occasion tried to create controversy in hopes of attaining some of the popularity enjoyed by the targets of his attacks. In this instance, Mr. Hume is the subject of Olbermann’s attack because he anchors the highest rated program in cable news television.
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In February, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28-year-old son of [[Fox News]] anchorman [[Brit Hume]], was found dead of a gunshot to the head. At the time, he was covering the U.S. Congress for the magazine [[The Hill]]. Sandy Hume’s official cause of death was suicide, but others question the official story.
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In February, 1998, Sandy Hume, the 28-year-old son of [[Fox News]] anchorman [[Brit Hume]], was found dead of a gunshot to the head. At the time, he was covering the U.S. Congress for the magazine [[The Hill]]. Sandy Hume’s official cause of death was suicide.
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==Controversies==
Smith was arrested in Florida in [[November]] [[2000]] for aggravated battery with a motor vehicle. The apparent victim was another reporter. Both Smith and the other reporter were in Florida covering the [[U.S. presidential election, 2000#Florida_election_results|Florida election crisis]] during the [[U.S. presidential election, 2000|2000 United States presidential election]].
In [[2002]], Smith accidentally used the slang sex term [[blow job]] during a broadcast of his nightly [[FOX Report]], causing himself considerable embarrassment. He’d reportedly meant to refer to pop star [[Jennifer Lopez]]’s neighbors as “more likely to give her a [[curbing|curb job]] than a [[block party]],” but misspoke during the last part. Smith immediately apologized to his viewers, and FOX executives indicated their belief that it was an innocent mistake.
(This was a mug shot of Shepard Smith after an assault charge in 2000)
Shepard Smith appeared as himself in the film “Volcano.”
Changes to “AL FRANKEN”
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The lawsuit focused a great deal of media attention upon Franken’s book and greatly enhanced its sales. Reflecting later on the lawsuit during an interview on the [[National Public Radio]] program ”[[Fresh Air]]” on [[September 3]], [[2003]], Franken said that Fox’s case against him was “literally laughed out of court” and that “wholly (holy) without merit” is a good characterization of Fox News itself.
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The lawsuit focused a great deal of media attention upon Franken’s book and greatly enhanced its sales. Reflecting later on the lawsuit during an interview on the liberal [[National Public Radio]] program ”[[Fresh Air]]” on [[September 3]], [[2003]], Franken said that Fox’s case against him was the best thing to happen to his book sales.
Changest to “BRIAN WILSON (FOX NEWS CORRESPONDANT)
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On April 21, 2005, Wilson presented [[Tom DeLay]]’s own misleading talking points without rebuttal, specifically that he was being targeted by “a left-wing syndicate” (apparently directly quoted from an email DeLay sent to his supporters in the Houston area entitled ‘What the press isn’t telling you,’). Wilson appears to be a poor fact-checker, given that newspapers that endorsed [[George W. Bush]] and prominent [[Republican Party (United States)|Republicans]] had also criticized DeLay. Wilson also left unrebutted DeLay’s misleading charge that the Texas district attorney investigating contributions to his political action committee is “a liberal, a leftist.”[http://mediamatters.org/items/200504210002]
Changes to “CNN”
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*On [[November 21]], [[2005]] CNN was airing [[Vice President]] [[Dick Cheney]]’s speech live from the American Enterprise Institute in Washington - when a large black ‘X’ flashed twice for 1/15th of a second over the vice president’s face. Along with the text: “Transition begins after 5 frames black” appearing below.
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*On [[November 21]], [[2005]] CNN was airing [[Vice President]] [[Dick Cheney]]’s speech live from the American Enterprise Institute in Washington - when a large black ‘X’ flashed twice for 1/7th of a second over the vice president’s face. Along with the text: “Transition begins after 5 frames black” appearing below.
Changes to “GRETA VAN SUSTEREN”
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There was speculation that Van Susteren only got the facelift at Fox News’s urging, often with the implication that the cable network that some satirists call “Foxy News” required attractive female anchors. Van Susteren dismissed these criticisms, saying that she did it for her own self-esteem; she was paraphrased as saying that she couldn’t wait to show everyone her new look at her thirtieth high school reunion.
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She has also taken some criticism due to her near non-stop coverage of the [[Natalee Holloway]] case which has increased her ratings 60%.
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She has also taken some criticism due to her coverage of the [[Natalee Holloway]] case which has increased her ratings.
In Conclusion: There is no doubt that Wikipedia will, by design, have credibility problems. In addition to these, we found other (admittedly minor and less numerous) edits by the IP address that traces to Fox News that add more information to a story, clarify or correct, and manage to do what editors to Wikipedia should do. But the above listed edits are clearly designed not to get to the truth. If I was at Fox News, ostensibly a journalist, my first order of business would be finding out who, what, when, where, why, and how these edits were made. Were they made, as the IP suggests, from Fox’s offices? Was it an intern? A janitor? Rupert? Get to the bottom of the story - and if at the end of it, Fox is at fault, they should seriously apologize - not just to their viewers but to the entire Wikipedia community.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 10:40:36 AM newAnd your wikipedia source is reliable. NOT.
And the stupid Republican award of the day goes to Stonecold.
The story was about Wikipedia and how Fox News changed the posts. The source of the story was not Wikipedia. Did you even read the post? If you did, you would have seen that.
Go back to reading Pinocchio. That is more your speed and has more pictures for you to look at.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 10:42:35 AM newIF true , its called fighting fire with fire, playing by the rules created by the supposed unbiased liberal drive by media.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.George S. Patton
posted on August 15, 2007 10:53:38 AM new
Brian, Wikipedia is not technically geek by defintion: Any moron can edit a wiki (and plenty do); geeks may also edit wikis, but that doesn’t make it necessarily geeky, despite that it is web-based. The web is no longer the domain of geeks — again, any moron can access the web (and most of them do). Furthermore, I don’t see the value of commenting on what Fox News does unless you have an axe to grind with them, which is certainly fair enough. I simply think that this blog shines because it typically avoids socio-political commentary.
I do, however, understand the “breaking news” bit, but, well… honestly, who the hell cares what Fox News does on Wikipedia, or what anyone does there for that matter? Are they the only company that edits pages to put themselves in a better light. No, they aren’t (and I suspect strongly that it was interns editing those pages, by the way, on their accord). I’ve personally edited several wikis to de-advertise a company, or to set facts straight, etc. This isn’t a story, it certainly isn’t “news.” Frankly, reporting on what any media outlet does is being just like Fox News. You guys are better than that. Way better.
posted on August 15, 2007 11:39:12 AM new
H---, anyone can now edit Wikipedia and many do. Fox, schmox, you can edit it yourself to say anything you want, LD.
posted on August 15, 2007 11:43:49 AM newanyone can now edit Wikipedia and many do. Fox, schmox, you can edit it yourself to say anything you want
Perhaps Linda and Bear should go and make "Canadian" the official language of Canada then. If it is on Wikipedia then it must me true LOL LOL LOL
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 15, 2007 02:16:17 PM newPerhaps you could put in a good word for homosexuality.
Etex, didnt you know LD's former female companion divorced it for being a hobosexual, said it was a bum lay, all it wanted to do was lay face down to the end.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.George S. Patton
posted on August 17, 2007 07:48:05 AM newAnyone can edit wikipedia
George Wanker Bush was born in [[New Haven, Connecticut]] to parents George H. W. Bush and [[Barbara Bush]]. He grew up in [[Midland, Texas|Midland]] and [[Houston, Texas|Houston]], [[Texas]]. He has four younger siblings: [[Jeb Bush|Jeb]], [[Neil Bush|Neil]], [[Marvin Bush|Marvin]], and [[Dorothy Bush|Dorothy]]. A younger sister, Robin, died of [[leukemia]] in [[1953]] at the age of three.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 17, 2007 07:52:12 AM newEtex, didnt you know LD's former female companion divorced it for being a hobosexual, said it was a bum lay, all it wanted to do was lay face down to the end.
Gee Bear, you must follow me around all day. First you claim you know what I do in the bedroom, then you claim you know "what line I stand in" and now you claim you know my female companion.
You must be a fag hag since you follow gay people around so much. Why don't you tell Linda and Billy Bob about your time in the gay bars. Are you to ashamed to tell them that you went to the gay bars in order to do your "research" about my life".
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 17, 2007 07:53:28 AM newThe ONLY way that LD ever helps the gay community is by serving as a bad example
Linda is a prime example for the incest community in Arkansas. There is a poster of her in the organizations headquarters.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 17, 2007 11:49:23 AM newHe's even attacking those who SUPPORT and ACCEPT gays
This would leave you and Bear out of that crowd.
And despite what you think that term is not offensive. But then again you don't know anything about what goes on in the gay community despite what you want to think.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 17, 2007 01:11:27 PM new
logansdad
posted on August 17, 2007 07:52:12 AM
Why don't you tell Linda and Billy Bob about your time in the gay bars. Are you to ashamed to tell them that you went to the gay bars in order to do your "research" about my life".
Of course the one thing you would never say in a gay bar...."May I push in your stool?"
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posted on August 17, 2007 02:20:02 PM new
"And despite what you think that term is not offensive. But then again you don't know anything about what goes on in the gay community despite what you want to think."
She didn't say the term is offensive. She said:
logansdad said:
"You must be a fag hag"
See....logansdad just can't help himself. He's even attacking those who SUPPORT and ACCEPT gays.
posted on August 17, 2007 07:35:43 PM new
Maybe you need to understand the word "attacking":
To criticize strongly or in a hostile manner.
of·fen·sive :pertaining to offense or attack
characterized by attack
So yes moron, offensive can be used.
Once again the two sockpuppets follow the ignorant queen who knows squat about the gay community.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on August 18, 2007 09:53:22 AM new
Unreal, she said you were attacking the ones who support gays. You were. You're not worth the air that you are taking up.
I thought that homosexuals were supposed to be somewhat smarter. What happened to you??
You are the one who used the term in a derogatory manner describing a poster who you were tying to put down.
You just made my point.
"You must be a fag hag since you follow gay people around so much."
posted on August 18, 2007 10:02:43 AM new
Yep, "Pitiful".
Low frustration level and inability to control himself when angered....always lead him to become more vile, more vulgar and more sexually insultive with each post.
posted on August 18, 2007 10:51:19 AM new
classicrock000
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"Well, if anyone should know vulgarity it's Bill (Sex Predator) O'Reilly !! What a pig!"
Yea Bill O'reilly talks sex on the phone and hes a pig...Bill Clinton gets a blowjob in the oval office and spews his wad on her dress and you thinks its okay...you have to be one of the dumbest c*nts on the planet.
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Linda_K
posted on July 27, 2007 05:44:55 PM
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she is....for SURE. """"
Then , just for laughs:
Linda_K
posted on August 18, 2007 10:02:43 AM
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Yep, "Pitiful".
Low frustration level and inability to control himself when angered....always lead him to become more vile, more vulgar and more sexually insultive with each post."""
Well, linduh, I guess you got LD, clASSic, yourself, and stonebrain nailed....
And, dolt, "insultive" is not a word....the word you'd use if you had an education would be "insulting".
posted on August 18, 2007 10:40:11 PM new
And, dolt, "insultive" is not a word....the word you'd use if you had an education would be "insulting".
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And sybil only THINKS she knows everything. But she doesn't.
posted on August 18, 2007 11:58:43 PM new
The only dictionary in which "insultive" appears is the Urban Dictionary. This is a site where users post THEIR definition of mostly slang words. The site contains words such as insultery and insultament. Also Donkadonk (large butt) and B dunk (large, beautiful butt.) Search of the OneLook Dictionary site, which searches over 100 dictionaries for a word,(including Websters, Oxford's,American Heritage, Cambridge and Encarta) returned "Sorry, no dictionaries indexed in the selected category contain the word insultive."
posted on August 19, 2007 12:41:12 AM new
"Yes, CC, I know. You're SO perfect that you would NEVER, EVER use 'slang'. ROFLOL"
Never said that.
"And this is all you've have to add to the threads here in the past couple of day????
So sad - but so very much your NEW personae here. LOL LOL LOL"
I post what I want, when I want and don't feel the need to seek approval from you.
"I call your post being PETTY. You can call it whatever you'd like. It's a DICTIONARY. PERIOD."
My post may be petty, but you are the one who offered this pseudo-dictionary as proof that there is such a word as "insultive." There is not. It is not even considered a slang word. This site is as much of a dictionary as a blog is an encyclopedia. I read your post and did not feel the need to mention your use of the word "insultive", but when you posted your Urban Dictionary "proof", I wanted to clarify just what kind of dictionary it was.
posted on August 19, 2007 01:04:43 AM new
Gotta LOVE you liberals.
But one thing you'll NEVER change is removing SLANG from the American vocabulary.
LOL LOL LOL LOL
Millions of people use it...and those of you with your noses so high in the air, you risk nose bleeds, aren't going to stop millions of people from using slang words.
Even though it so offends your sensibilities. LOL LOL LOL
posted on August 19, 2007 01:09:47 AM new
"I post what I want, when I want and don't feel the need to seek approval from you."
LOL Never said you couldn't, CC. And there's NOTHING stopping me from making comments on how PETTY they usually are. RARELY on topic....just wanting to argue about off topic PETTY issues. LOL LOL
Terrorists don't worry you....all the important issues in the news on any given day rarely catches your interest, but using slang does.
Now THAT'S sure setting YOUR priorities. Just like a liberal.
Are YOU a Bunghole?
