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 mingotree
 
posted on February 29, 2008 09:14:32 PM
damn if a baseball player takes steroids? And wouldn't we do better to ignore this and concentrate on IMPORTANT issues????

 
 mcjane
 
posted on February 29, 2008 10:35:45 PM
And wouldn't we do better to ignore this and concentrate on IMPORTANT issues????

We sure would, but first we have to pay out a few million on this crap before we can spend on what's really important.
Go figure.

 
 pixiamom
 
posted on February 29, 2008 10:46:11 PM
Yes I do. Steroids are damaging and CHEATING. They are extremely tempting to our young aspiring athletes and threaten their health and life.
 
 mingotree
 
posted on March 1, 2008 07:46:11 AM
Gotta go with mcjane on this one. It's not only a total waste of taxpayer's money (kinda like the repugs impeaching Clinton over sex),
AND a red herring to direct our attention away from real issues but what's the point?

If athletes get paid gazillions of dollars to WIN they will cheat...it's the American way.

If people don't want them using drugs then don't go to the games, don't pay for the ungodly expensive tickets, quit paying for huge sports arenas for their owners to make more money, quit making athletes "gods" .


Then maybe kids won't think they should act like them.

It's parent's responsibility for what their kids do, not the athletes.





 
 pixiamom
 
posted on March 3, 2008 05:59:52 PM
Not sure what your point is. Are you proposing to deregulate steroid usage? Edited to add, what kind of crap is this, when the same folks who abhor adding hormones to their animals don't give a ratz ass to young athletes using steroids?
[ edited by pixiamom on Mar 3, 2008 06:08 PM ]
 
 profe51
 
posted on March 3, 2008 08:54:57 PM
Steroid use is just a symptom of this country's perverse obsession with commercialized sports. Given the cutthroat corporate environment in which sports now operates, it's amazing that steroids took this long to become an issue.

Congress investigating it is a waste of money unless they plan to dismantle the whole sick system, which ain't gonna happen.

 
 profe51
 
posted on March 3, 2008 08:58:18 PM
Also, I've read that steroid abuse often causes sterility and impotence. Maybe it's not such a bad thing after all. At least these morons won't be contributing to the gene pool. Maybe it's a self limiting problem.

 
 davebraun
 
posted on March 3, 2008 09:45:02 PM
score one for Profe51

 
 pixiamom
 
posted on March 4, 2008 12:29:10 AM
Kids who do not use steroids are losing scholarships to those that do.Steroid usage causes violence and abuse due to aggressive behavior. I can't believe that we want to see this go unchecked, Edited to add: this should be a non-partisan issue - because one party endorses it doesn't make it wrong. It has nothing to do with the war in Iraq.
[ edited by pixiamom on Mar 4, 2008 12:53 AM ]
 
 profe51
 
posted on March 4, 2008 04:45:32 AM
It's sad and serious business, no denying that. But what will the gov't "investigation" of it solve?

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on March 4, 2008 05:49:04 AM


Bush said, "The use of performance-enhancing drugs like steroids in baseball, football and other sports is dangerous, and it sends the wrong message -- that there are shortcuts to accomplishment, and that performance is more important than character,''

It's laughable to think that he cared about the safety of the players or the integrity of the game when he owned a baseball team.

At this point, the investigation of such a cutthroat business will accomplish nothing. Make it legal and level the playing field.



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on March 4, 2008 06:21:46 AM


"Kids who do not use steroids are losing scholarships to those that do."



Why are academic scholarships based on sports skill?





[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 4, 2008 06:31 AM ]
 
 shagmidmod
 
posted on March 4, 2008 09:48:08 AM
One simple solution... If you test positive for steroids, human growth hormones, etc... you don't get paid ever again. Let them play, but take away their pay. See how many pros quit using steroids. What is more important to them? Getting those mega million dollar contracts or taking steroids? I think you'll see most of them make the right decision.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on March 4, 2008 10:36:18 AM
"One simple solution... If you test positive for steroids, human growth hormones, etc... you don't get paid ever again. Let them play, but take away their pay. See how many pros quit using steroids. What is more important to them? Getting those mega million dollar contracts or taking steroids? I think you'll see most of them make the right decision."


You are basically saying, fire them. But the organization depends on those players whose performance has been enhanced with steroids. It's a multi million dollar business that uses such players as the owners wink and look the other way.



And about scholarships....

The answer is that such students are used by schools to enhance their financial status.

Why should schools maintain the false and pretentious facade of scholarships for deserving students when all they really want is a successful team of football players who will enhance their financial position, encourage contributions and attract students.

Why not instead recruit players based on their ability to play football and pay them the salary that they deserve. Then, those who qualify for admission and want to attend the school could afford to pay the tuition.

Unfortunately others who are being used will not obtain an education and will go on to play football where their future will depend more on steroids than brains.


[ edited by Helenjw on Mar 4, 2008 12:21 PM ]
 
 MINGOTREE
 
posted on March 4, 2008 03:32:53 PM
pixiamom
posted on March 3, 2008 05:59:52 PM
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Not sure what your point is. Are you proposing to deregulate steroid usage? Edited to add, what kind of crap is this, when the same folks who abhor adding hormones to their animals don't give a ratz ass to young athletes using steroids?
[ edited by pixiamom on Mar 3, 2008 06:08 PM ]




If steroids are regulated then there already is some form of control.....don't know why congress has to get involved.




""abhor adding hormones to their animals don't give a ratz ass to young athletes using steroids?"""


Uh, I'm not into cannibalism....


 
 profe51
 
posted on March 4, 2008 07:36:59 PM
As much as those players are idolized by their adoring fans and as much money as they are paid, they are nothing more than a commodity to the owners of the teams. I bet race horses are handled with far more concern, and it's a good thing because horses can't decide not to participate. The whole system and our adoration of it is creepy and is evidence in my mind of a deep sickness in our society.
Helen is right. We should just legalize steroids and use the decline and eventual death of these individuals as a learning lesson to the youth we're supposedly worried about. The bonus, as I mentioned before, is they won't be contributing much to the gene pool.

 
 
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