kozersky
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posted on August 22, 2008 10:51:40 PM new
[ edited by kozersky on Jul 16, 2009 11:51 AM ]
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barparts
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posted on August 23, 2008 06:34:47 AM new
Obama VP Pick is ...
A moron
What on earth is Obama thinking? I thought he wanted to win the election.
Wow, what a dumb move.
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Helenjw
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posted on August 23, 2008 07:10:25 AM new
barparts
Making such statements without basis is moronic and reflects on your ability to think. I could ask you how you came to that conclusion but I'll save you that embarrassment this time.
For more information about Joe Biden....
Joe Biden Biography
Joe Biden has represented the state of Delaware in the United States Senate since 1972, when he was elected at the age of twenty-nine. Senator Biden is recognized as a leader in foreign policy, as well as one of the nation's most influential voices on terrorism, drug policy, and crime. Nationally, Senator Biden has earned a reputation for working on a bipartisan basis with Republican colleagues and bringing real results that matter to Americans.
continued
Joe Biden on Issues
Joe Biden as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Comittee
U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Great Choice!
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roadsmith
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posted on August 23, 2008 01:07:39 PM new
Wonderful speeches in Springfield. I think Biden is at his most attractive as a candidate when he raises his voice and is angry. Today I'm proud of my party - again.
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hwahwa
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posted on August 24, 2008 08:27:12 AM new
So,who is McCain's pick?
A Fuller BRush salesman?
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EBAY has 13,000 rules.
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deur1
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posted on August 24, 2008 09:46:21 AM new
FYI -- he may buy the Fuller Brush business and
get Biden who back, formatted and heralded
NAFTA to send it to Mexico
Just had to say it!
Hahahaha
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deur1
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posted on August 24, 2008 09:46:56 AM new
I am just glad Obama picked someone that is truly qualified to be president.
Biden has the experience and drive.
[ edited by deur1 on Aug 24, 2008 09:52 AM ]
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deur1
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posted on August 24, 2008 09:47:53 AM new
In response to query about who McCain may choose-
He may pick Lieberman
[ edited by deur1 on Aug 24, 2008 09:52 AM ]
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profe51
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posted on August 24, 2008 03:44:47 PM new
He may pick Lieberman
That would be the perfect choice. Imagine how his christian conservative base will react to a pro choice jewish democrat. 
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profe51
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posted on August 24, 2008 03:47:22 PM new
He'll pick Romney, the game show host, creating the perfect coalition of rich guys who'll say anything in order to get elected. Who else has he got?
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roadsmith
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posted on August 24, 2008 11:26:28 PM new
And how will the conservative Christian base react to a Mormon in line for the White House? I do think he'll pick Romney so he can win in Michigan, but Romney is a phony plastic man. But of course then both of them could show off their arm-candy blond wives.
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deur1
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posted on August 24, 2008 11:36:48 PM new
McCains wife is not arm candy -- she is the one with the money
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logansdad
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posted on August 25, 2008 03:48:21 AM new
I think Biden was a good choice for Obama. He gives Obama the experience he was lacking on the ticket.
I have heard McCain will be choosing Romney after the DNC is over.
"She Who Must Not Be Named is gone. Banished far, far away with her minions to the outer realms where she can't hurt anyone ever again" - the profe
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logansdad
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posted on August 25, 2008 03:51:31 AM new
barparts said: The losers are still here. The great posters went over to the roadhouse.
I see another loser has returned to post his opinion about the DNC pick. Can't debate whether it is a good pick or a bad pick, just attack.
"She Who Must Not Be Named is gone. Banished far, far away with her minions to the outer realms where she can't hurt anyone ever again" - the profe
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logansdad
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posted on August 25, 2008 03:52:50 AM new
McCains wife is not arm candy -- she is the one with the money
She is the one that also owns all the houses John can't remember having.
"She Who Must Not Be Named is gone. Banished far, far away with her minions to the outer realms where she can't hurt anyone ever again" - the profe
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roadsmith
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posted on August 25, 2008 12:49:28 PM new
deur: You said "As for conservative Christians-I thought the term Christian meant follower of Christ ...as I have read he was not politically motivated. I cannot imagine Christ being a political activist for either party.....JMO
Now you've edited out the comment about Christ not being politically motivated, but I want to comment on it. Jesus took a whip and drove the moneychangers out of the temple. His message was revolutionary. He called the ruling Jews (Pharisees and Saducees) whited sepulchres and railed against their grasp of power. He stood up for the little guys and encouraged his followers to feed the poor and the hungry (what a concept, huh!) Etc.
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 01:34:40 PM new
Jesus was cleaning the temple. The temple was the center of worship, it was not a political or commercial arena.
That is why he cleared it out ...
He was a religious leader not a political leader. BTW Pharisees and Saducees were religious groups not political! They were not followers of Christ , their teachings were very different that those of Christ. They did not aceept Him as the Son of God- the Messiah.
The Jews were scattered during his time on earth. They were under control of the Romans.
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 01:40:17 PM new
Roadsmith , I believe in keeping religion and politic separated that is why I deleted my statement very soon after posting it.
Of course you re-introduced it was an act of KINDNESS --- I am sure.
I apologize to all others.
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profe51
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posted on August 25, 2008 04:50:40 PM new
The Saducees were a wealthy and powerful group. A religious aristocracy. To suggest that they weren't political is naive at best. The Pharisees were also clearly political. The typical simplistic christian notion of a messiah as a purely spiritual and heavenly king flies in the face of the jewish concept of messiah at the time of Jesus. Many jews did not believe in an eventual Messiah at all, and many others viewed the Messiah as purely a political figure who would free the Jewish state from Roman domination.
Whether Jesus viewed himself, or his followers viewed him as a purely spiritual leader, a purely political leader or some combination of the two is and has always been open to speculation and has been written about without consensus by scholars for hundreds of years. Christianity and it's dogma has managed to simplify the story of Jesus from one filled with intrigue, conflicting motives and all the other normal human variations into a story that can be told to children with coloring books in sunday school. Sadly, lots of believers never read beyond those coloring books.
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 05:14:56 PM new
I concur Pharisees and Saducees were really political puppets BUT they were masked behind religious robes and garb.
Yep, of course they were deeply rooted and in bed with the political leaders of their day.
They were not Christians
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logansdad
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posted on August 25, 2008 05:22:40 PM new
I cannot imagine Christ being a political activist for either party.
Don't you know Jesus was a liberal
"She Who Must Not Be Named is gone. Banished far, far away with her minions to the outer realms where she can't hurt anyone ever again" - the profe
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 05:25:48 PM new
Whatever
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profe51
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posted on August 25, 2008 09:12:03 PM new
I concur Pharisees and Saducees were really political puppets BUT they were masked behind religious robes and garb.
Uh huh, which is of course why you said:
BTW Pharisees and Saducees were religious groups not political!
They were not Christians
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean exactly. Nobody was Christian, not even the followers of Jesus. They were Jews.
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deur1
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posted on August 25, 2008 09:45:45 PM new
Jesus was a Jew also. Christians are followers of Christ that strive to live their life in accord with His teaching. Being a Christian is not one's nationality.
Neither of those groups (Pharisees and Saducees) followed his teachings or accepted Him as the Messiah.
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Helenjw
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posted on August 26, 2008 06:24:10 AM new
Isn't it interesting how easily the topic of a thread can be diverted from politics to religion with an unrelated comment left for 35 minutes and then edited with an apology.
That maneuver would make a troll proud but of course I'm not calling you a troll, Deur.
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