krs
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posted on March 8, 2001 08:33:35 AM new
http://www.kukluxklan.org/faq.htm
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sugar2912
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posted on March 8, 2001 09:01:35 AM new
Hey, I klicked on the link about Kukla but didn't see anything about Fran and Olie? Just some politikal supremacist hate krap. I was diskusted to say the least. I mean, kome on... there is only one supreme being and he ain't burning a kross in some family's front yard.
There was one kwestion I didn't see asked there though, how can such narrow sighted folks manage to drive to the rally with no peripheral vision?
IMHO, the KKK is the BEST argument in favor of birth control!
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 8, 2001 09:26:50 AM new
Any bets on the shelf life of this thread?
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njrazd
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posted on March 8, 2001 10:46:35 AM new
I think if you have any questions about the KKK, you should direct them to Senator Byrd...
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin.html
I'm sure he has all the answers.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on March 8, 2001 11:04:05 AM new
Hey! I found the FAQ first. 
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=28&thread=67829
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RainyBear
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posted on March 8, 2001 11:04:57 AM new
Well, if you scroll down far enough you'll find some interesting views on issues other than race:
(Bold emphasis within answers added by me.)
Don't you think it's cruel to suggest placing HIV patients in national hospitals?
No. It is the only proven way to reduce and virtually halt the spread of AIDS. Those who condemn such avenues of prevention are ignoring the extremely active sex life of homosexuals and lesbians who usually have dozens if not hundreds of different partners a year. They also don't wish to bring attention to the fact that heterosexual whites aren't getting HIV at near the rate of non-whites and homosexuals. It seems that white heterosexuals are almost unaffected. Homosexuals don't want normal people to be aware they have HIV or AIDS because they know how disgusted most people are of their filthy habits. If they really were concerned about humanity as they claim, they would shut up about their "anonymity" get tested and check themselves in to a hospital reserved for HIV positive patients.
Do you think women should work?
Women already work managing the home which equals a small business. Do we think women should work outside the home? That depends - its an individual matter. If the survival of the family depends on having her additional earnings, then its pretty clear that she needs to work outside the home as well. Some women work outside the home, because they are good at what they do and their work benefits others.
(But it gets worse...)
For what ever reason a woman works outside the home, the fact is she shouldn't be forced to work just because one paycheck isn't enough. Most women who work outside the home end up with low paying service jobs. Women are easier to take advantage of by "Marxist style employers" because they will often put up with more "for the sake of the family" while men are more apt to tell a boss what they can do with their job. The question shouldn't be whether women should be allowed to work outside the home, it should be an issue of not exploiting women for the sake of the "bankers corporate dollar"...
Now, how do I make that little dropped-jaw face?
[ edited by RainyBear on Mar 8, 2001 11:11 AM ]
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zilvy
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posted on March 8, 2001 11:20:17 AM new
Just a thought....are there really FAQ for
the Klan? Or, do most folks already have
a pretty good idea of what they are all about
based on visual images and previously televised diatribes by the white sheeted
annonymous cowards?
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HJW
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posted on March 8, 2001 11:24:32 AM new
Re: The article...
I have never read so many lies in one place
in my life. Every sentence of every reply
to the frequently asked questions of the
Klu Klux Klan is a LIE !!!
Helen
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Antiquary
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posted on March 8, 2001 11:42:08 AM new
What I find even more disgusting, though I know that it is at first difficult to conceive, are those who attempt to mask their bigotry through rhetoric in order to attempt to make it more palpable to the mainstream of society, assuming that some people are so dense and weak-willed that they can be persuaded to accept a premise without fully examining the logical extensions of its application.
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sugar2912
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posted on March 8, 2001 12:56:08 PM new
Antiquary, you have just described the very fiber of the KKK's existance. Without weak-willed and mindless individuals they could NOT exist. It is only appropriate that they would aim their propaganda at such people.
The truly sad part of all of this is that KKK parents raise their children to hate as well. Predjudice can not be tolerated, yet, this is what makes America what it is. We have to allow others the freedom to express their opinions, viewpoints and ideals. Education is the key to wiping hate and intolerance out.
Oooh I'm getting steamed just thinking about it. The only thing I hate worse than intolerance is HATE! 
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 8, 2001 03:46:03 PM new
I have no qualms about discussing this topic or providing a link to the site for those interested in exploring the sicker side of human nature ... but is it really necessary to quote that jingoistic propaganda here? By excerpting so extensively, aren't you helping to spread the KKK's message of hate and intolerance?
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RainyBear
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posted on March 8, 2001 04:08:03 PM new
By excerpting so extensively, aren't you helping to spread the KKK's message of hate and intolerance?
On the contrary, the purpose of the quote is to point out how ridiculous it is. Before reading the FAQ I didn't realize that the KKK's philosophy included opinions about women and homosexuals. Not everyone would have scrolled down that far... and now they know, too.
Education is almost always better than ignorance.
Edited because "education" only has one "t."
[ edited by RainyBear on Mar 8, 2001 04:11 PM ]
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HJW
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posted on March 8, 2001 04:43:48 PM new
Re: "We have to allow others the freedom to express their opinions, viewpoints and ideals."
Ordinarily this is true. But the clan is
a murderous organization. They murder and spread hate and violence, not opinions, viewpoints and ideals. Whatever they don't like, they hang from a tree or blow up in a church.
In the south, they escape prosecution because
they have infiltrated police departments,
courts and the political structure.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 8, 2001 04:52 PM ]
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mzalez
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posted on March 8, 2001 05:12:58 PM new
A polluted doctrine for sure. Eventually they will have to answer to the Lord for cloaking their activities with the scripture.
By the way, David Duke is from the place I live (Metairie, LA). Sometimes he marchs in the parades. It seems he's got an even number of followers and detractors.
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krs
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posted on March 8, 2001 05:42:41 PM new
Spaz,
"By excerpting so extensively, aren't you helping to spread the KKK's message of hate and intolerance?"
I appreciate that view, but I don't think that not excerpting from their nonsense would serve to protect any interested party. Instead I think that bringing such ideas into the clear light of day has a larger effect of exposing the KKK positions for the bigoted and fallacious ugliness that they are.
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HJW
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:02:14 PM new
krs,
There is a big difference between excerpting
lies and the truth. There is no truth here
to excerpt, just lies and propaganda.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 8, 2001 06:03 PM ]
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:08:56 PM new
RainyBear,
You seem to assume that everyone is as intelligent as you are -- the fact that the Klan is still strong after more than a century of existence is proof positive that they aren't. You and I, and probably 99% of our fellow posters see the vile absurdity of those words. But I think you're kidding yourself if you deny that someone out there is going to read the excerpts and see a germ of truth in them.
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spazmodeus
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:12:16 PM new
krs,
Didn't see your post till just now. I understand the benefit for the majority, however I don't want to give KKK any opportunity to spread their message. Zero tolerance for them, IMHO.
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Borillar
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:20:22 PM new
njrazd: It's a shame that the Democratic Party does not have a litmus test for decency before a candidate can join the party as a politician. That senator Byrd - and past KKK members have been allowed to be politicians of the Democratic Party; e.g., the party giving their support, is one real reason why the Democratic party has lost its way. That Bob Barr and Trent Lott have "former" connections to the KKK are also shameful to the Republican party - there is no place in American politics for Intolerance. I would like to see all of these "former" KKK politicans taken off of the ballot and let them go back to burning crosses on decent American's front lawns.
++edited for Sin-Tax++
[ edited by Borillar on Mar 8, 2001 06:21 PM ]
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KatyD
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:33:02 PM new
Bob Barr has former connections to the KKK?? huh.
KatyD
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HJW
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posted on March 8, 2001 06:55:50 PM new
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/barr121198.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/barr021098.htm
Some info on Bob Barr.
He made the mistake of speaking before the Council of Conservative Citizens and was a leader in the attempt to impeach Clinton.
And was "distinguished" by receiving the
Rush Limbaugh Award.
The kkk allegation may be a case of guilt by
association.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 8, 2001 07:03 PM ]
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jamesoblivion
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posted on March 8, 2001 07:18:39 PM new
Helen, I'm not so sure he made the mistake of speaking there so much as he made the mistake of getting found out. Barr is who he is, whether he'd spoken there or not. Same with Byrd, who doesn't seem to have evolved much from his KKK days.
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KatyD
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posted on March 8, 2001 07:29:32 PM new
The problem with the "guilt by association" is that he had his picture taken yukkin it up at that event with known KKK members. Of course when that unfortunate "kodak moment" surfaced, he "claimed" he had no knowledge of these individual's "affiliation". Uh huh.
KatyD
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jamesoblivion
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posted on March 8, 2001 07:35:17 PM new
I've visited the CCC's (gee, ya think the initials that the "Council of Conservative Citizens" form are a coincidence?) website. It was evident in not more then a minute or two of browsing just exactly what they are and what they stand for.
So, like with Reagan and Iran-Contra -- shame on them (Barr and Lott) if they knew and shame on them if they didn't know.
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krs
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posted on March 8, 2001 07:47:22 PM new
helen,
"There is a big difference between excerpting lies and the truth. There is no truth here to excerpt, just lies and propaganda."
First, could you direct me to anywhere that anyone has represented any of the KKK info as the truth, other than the person who presents the answers contained within the link?
Would you mind then expanding upon this idea of yours that there is a difference in excerpting either lies or the truth? Both seem like excerpting to me. Or are you saying that you object to the excerpting of certain material if you find it objectionable. If that is the case why not simply say so as did Mr.Modeus?
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dubyasdaman
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posted on March 8, 2001 07:54:19 PM new
Thanks for bringing these FAQs to our attention, but it was really quite unneccessary. Everyone already knows what low-lifes the KKK members are, including the low-lifes themselves.
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gravid
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posted on March 8, 2001 08:10:38 PM new
I knew about the Klan when we lived in North Carolina but did not realize they had Yankee Klansmen. Then this lady in our real estate office sold a house in the nest county over to a black guy from Jamaica. Turns out he was not welcome in the neigborhood and about the third day he was there he woke up from the glare of a cross burning on his front yard.
Now you have to understand he had no cultural referances so he did not know he was suppossed to be terrified and he was one of these fussy gardeners who love a perfect yard. That was the big sell for him to get this house. Unfortunatly he was also a master of 3 or 4 forms of martial arts - So when he woke up and saw all these clowns ruining his grass he went out the door like a wolf into a flock of sheep. He picked one limp form and dragged him back in the house by the ankle to have someone to blame when the police came.
It would have been a lot better all the way around if it hads not been the police chief's son he picked.
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krs
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posted on March 8, 2001 08:32:24 PM new
Didn't he eat the evidence?
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HJW
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posted on March 8, 2001 08:35:29 PM new
Krs,
I hope that I can clarify my feelings about this.
First, the article is nothing but lies and propaganda used by the
KKK to advance their agenda which is violence, discrimination and hate. By copying this trash, I believe that it inadvertently serves their purpose by disseminating their propaganda on the internet.
On the other hand, if the answers to the questions were accurate,
then it would be useful to copy and paste their answers in order to examine their true philosophy.
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Mar 8, 2001 08:52 PM ]
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krs
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posted on March 8, 2001 09:12:56 PM new
"....in order to examine their true philosophy"
Which, it seems to me, is exactly what is happening except when a person cannot set aside his or her feelings about the subject and enters into the realm of personal bias, thereby perhaps opening a channel into the examination of those aspects which may interfere with objective and reasonable thought.
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